[digitalradio] 500Hz Limit? Re: Updates on effect of FCC RO

2006-10-21 Thread expeditionradio
Rick, KV9U wrote: ...Unfortunately, it did so in a way that also limits J2D emissions -- data sent by modulating an SSB transmitter -- to 500 Hz bandwidth. ... Can anyone explain for sure what the FCC has decided? Hi Rick, It would be a huge step backward for the Amateur Radio Service

[digitalradio] Path Simulator Tests AOR / WinDRM

2006-10-21 Thread Tony
All: Performed a few informal path simulator tests with the AOR-9000 modem and WinDRM. I used two laptops and Moe Weatley's PathSim. I wanted to first test each mode for sensitivity without any ionospheric distortion. I used direct-path and slowly increased the white noise. I found that the

Re: [digitalradio] 500Hz Limit? Re: Updates on effect of FCC RO

2006-10-21 Thread Mark Miller
Below 30 MHz it would be a very popular step, but I agree that this most likely was not the intention of the FCC. 73, Mark N5RFX It would be a huge step backward for the Amateur Radio Service in USA if FCC were to limit Data transmissions to less than 500Hz bandwidth Need a Digital mode

Re: [digitalradio] Updates on effect of FCC RO

2006-10-21 Thread Mark Miller
Rick, The text in the RO indicates that the 500Hz maximum occupied bandwidth only applies to the new emissions designators added to the definition of data. and the affected bands are below 30 MHz. This is what I asked for in my petition. However, the FCC did put J2D in the list of 500Hz

[digitalradio] Digital Voice: SNR plot to OE3GBB today

2006-10-21 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Gerhard OE3GBB and I tried to work digital voice with WinDRM today but signals were too weak this morning. Below is the Hamcap prediction for 20M conditions to Austria today from my Western New York location. Gerhard will be back later, looks like 1800 UTC is the best time today. The plot

[digitalradio] re PCALE transmitting

2006-10-21 Thread Ross
Thanks Bonnie, I had those settings in the config file, I rechecked and have found the problem. The output setting of my sondcard was only half way, incresing it has fixed the problem. I am now transmitting. Now to connect to somebody and find out what happens, Can I use QRZ and will it

Re: [digitalradio] Updates on effect of FCC RO

2006-10-21 Thread KV9U
OK, Mark, then it does look like we are not going to be able to use the wider modes in the CW/RTTY/Data area. I am not sure what wide modes you are referring to that are not sent with J2D as all of the ones I can think of are done with injecting tones into an SSB transmitter. I did find the

Re: [digitalradio] Path Simulator Tests AOR / WinDRM

2006-10-21 Thread KV9U
Great information, Tony. Just the kind of real world stuff that we need. By the way, although there are similarities between the systems, it is interesting to note that: AOR is a 50 baud OFDM system using 36 DQPSK carriers. For voice it uses AMBE2020 which I think is the same voice codec as in

Re: [digitalradio] Updates on effect of FCC RO

2006-10-21 Thread Mark Miller
Rick, All of the modes that claim to be J2D are really J2B when sending text. When sending images they would be J2C and fall under the 500 Hz maximum occupied bandwidth limit. 73, Mark N5RFX OK, Mark, then it does look like we are not going to be able to use the wider modes in the

[digitalradio] 3kHz or 500Hz Re: Updates on effect of FCC RO

2006-10-21 Thread expeditionradio
There's another way to look at spectrum use. It is better to use a 3kHz bandwith for 10 minutes than to use a 500Hz bandwidth for 1 hour to pass the same traffic. On HF, with short propagation openings, it is better to be able to quickly send the message. Approximately 3kHz is the defacto