[digitalradio] ROS on UHF

2010-03-21 Thread hteller
Extensive testing of ROS on the air on UHF have now been concluded. Unfortunately, ROS totally fails for UHF communications, in either 16 baud, or 1 baud variants, and using either the HF or EME channel. Even with ROS metric readings between -1 dB and -8 dB (i.e. relatively strong signals),

RE: [digitalradio] ROS on UHF

2010-03-21 Thread Simon HB9DRV
error correction, this 'hunting' is a reason for the greater CPU usage. Simon Brown, HB9DRV http://sdr-radio.com From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hteller Sent: 21 March 2010 15:38 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] ROS

Re: [digitalradio] ROS on UHF

2010-03-21 Thread KH6TY
Simon HB9DRV wrote: There's a lot more to Olivia than being multi-tone MFSK. I am aware of that, Simon. However, Olivia is currently the most popular digital mode other than PSK31 and RTTY, and the question was if ROS 16 baud was worth using twice the bandwidth of Olivia. We hoped that

Re: [digitalradio] ROS on UHF]

2010-03-21 Thread w2xj
If there were documentation on ROS then there would the possibility of investigating the problem further and maybe adding improvements. Part of the problem is that even if there is a large degree of spreading compared to the data rate, the channel is still quite narrow and a large portion of

Re: [digitalradio] ROS on UHF]

2010-03-21 Thread KH6TY
Based on observations of the tones on the waterfall on the air, compared to observing them locally, and hearing the raucous tones compared to bell-like quality locally, my guess is that perhaps the modulation is disturbed or the tones moved in frequency far enough so there is no decoding. If

Re: [digitalradio] ROS on UHF]]

2010-03-21 Thread w2xj
Yes but at UHF there seems to not be enough spread to tolerate the Doppler shift. If the frequencies were further apart, and were received through a wider window, the Doppler would be tolerated better but at what penalty in noise? I can think of a few ways to solve your problem but not with