Re: [digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference

2009-09-27 Thread Rik van Riel
aswoodhull wrote: It's not like the frequency is never available for other uses. The W1AW code transmissions are on a regular schedule, at most 7 hours a day during weekdays (6 hours on Monday, none at all on weekends and holidays). So if you happen to be rock bound on this frequency you

[digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference

2009-09-26 Thread aswoodhull
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, theophilusofgenoa twst...@... wrote: I would like to put in a few words in defense of the ARRL. I learned the code prior to getting my novice license in 1955. At the time, that was just about the only way one could learn ... Thank you for saying this.

[digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference

2009-09-26 Thread Fred
Well Spoken that is also my way of seeing it...Fred WV8BU

Re: [digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference

2009-09-25 Thread mikea
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 04:24:37PM -0700, Ralph Mowery wrote: --- On Thu, 9/24/09, theophilusofgenoa twst...@windstream.net wrote: From: theophilusofgenoa twst...@windstream.net Subject: [digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com

[digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference

2009-09-25 Thread Thomas F. Giella NZ4O
Last winter there was a conflict between the voluntary 160 meter digital mode sub band and W1AW's code practice. I asked them to move their frequency and they did. Personally I think that the ARRL continued Morse code practice broadcasts are no longer necessary. If they stopped they would save

Re: [digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference

2009-09-25 Thread Bill V WA7NWP
Why is the code practice sessons even needed now ? In 1955 very few probably had tape recorders or an easy method to get perfect code practice. Now you can get a computer for almost nothing Ah but radio is what this is all about. There's just something special about doing it over it the

Re: [digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference

2009-09-25 Thread DANNY DOUGLAS
=341090159 - Original Message - From: Bill V WA7NWP To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference Why is the code practice sessons even needed now ? In 1955 very few

Re: [digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference

2009-09-25 Thread Bill V WA7NWP
Allow me to throw in one more thought... I believe we'd all be better off if the machines were segregated from the humans. This is an extension of the current flawed attended/unattended scheme. Let's keep one segment of an Amateur allocation reserved for all the manual usage and put the

[digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference

2009-09-24 Thread theophilusofgenoa
I would like to put in a few words in defense of the ARRL. I learned the code prior to getting my novice license in 1955. At the time, that was just about the only way one could learn, at least on a kid's salary. These transmissions have been on forever, so I do question why this frequency

Re: [digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference

2009-09-24 Thread José A. Amador
I was about to reply to the question of why the choice of frequency for PSK31. I could not at the moment, but I see noone has addressed this point. It happens that 3.579545 MHz (NTSC color burst) were aboundant and rather cheap in the age of analog TV. So, they have been used in some designs I

Re: [digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference

2009-09-24 Thread Rik van Riel
theophilusofgenoa wrote: I would like to put in a few words in defense of the ARRL. They deserve it, IMHO. It turns out that W1AW has been looking for alternative 80m cw frequencies for a while now. We just did not know about it. I do question why this frequency was used as the primary PSK31

[digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference

2009-09-24 Thread jhaynesatalumni
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rik van Riel r...@... wrote: In my opinion, the why isn't nearly as important as the fact that we have a problem on the band nowadays. The fixed frequency psk kits have been built and cannot easily be changed to another frequency. Easily changed by

Re: [digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference

2009-09-24 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- On Thu, 9/24/09, theophilusofgenoa twst...@windstream.net wrote: From: theophilusofgenoa twst...@windstream.net Subject: [digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 11:24 AM I would like to put

[digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference(A dissent)

2009-09-23 Thread jhaynesatalumni
Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but what is it that makes 3580 a sacred gathering place for PSK? Why isn't it 070 like it is on some other bands? Why can't we just QSY to get away from W1AW?

Re: [digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference(A dissent)

2009-09-23 Thread Bill V WA7NWP
Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but what is it that makes 3580 a sacred gathering place for PSK? Why isn't it 070 like it is on some other bands? Why can't we just QSY to get away from W1AW? Many home brew low power rigs, psk included, use the standard and very cheap 3.579 TV color

Re: [digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference(A dissent)

2009-09-23 Thread Andrew O'Brien
but why can't W1AW listen first and NOT xmit if busy? On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Bill V WA7NWP wa7...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but what is it that makes 3580 a sacred gathering place for PSK? Why isn't it 070 like it is on some other bands? Why can't

Re: [digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference(A dissent)

2009-09-23 Thread DANNY DOUGLAS
: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference(A dissent) but why can't W1AW listen first and NOT xmit if busy? On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Bill V WA7NWP wa7...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but what is it that makes 3580 a sacred gathering

[digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference

2009-09-22 Thread frankk2ncc
That sounds like a very reasonable request. Well written and good job! f, k2ncc

Re: [digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference

2009-09-22 Thread Andrew O'Brien
I have found it frustrating when I am on that freq and THEN they start up. I wish they would simply QSY when the freq appears busy. Andy K3UK On 9/22/09, frankk2ncc frank.k2...@gmail.com wrote: That sounds like a very reasonable request. Well written and good job! f, k2ncc --

[digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference

2009-09-22 Thread W4AGA
Setting aside the misplaced sense of entitlement in that letter, there's this from http://www.arrl.org/news/features/2001/08/07/1/ QUOTE A Retrospective Today, bulletins transmitted by W1AW are received with ease throughout the country. The information transmitted covers a broad range of

Re: [digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference

2009-09-22 Thread Scott Hill
Like almost all large organizations with professional management, the ARRL has become devoted entirely to the perpetuation of itself. Paid public relations people write glowing statements expounding the dedication of the group to egalitarian principals, but to properly evaluate their motives

[digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference

2009-09-22 Thread doug_helbling
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, frankk2ncc frank.k2...@... wrote: That sounds like a very reasonable request. Well written and good job! f, k2ncc I agree with Frank that this was a reasonable and civilized response. I have since read W1AW's reply as well, and it, too, seems

[digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference

2009-09-22 Thread kc4cop
Assuming that more than just one or two hams will try to use PSK 31 on 80 m, getting out extensive comments (publishing all the facts in dozens of places to reach a maximum number of hams) on filter settings to all concerned would be a much more difficult and involved process then getting