Thanks for posting this BS Andy ....

This guy Rich is NOT telling the WHOLE truth about "his?" invention ..

I am getting bombarded with new requests to "add me as a friend" from 
sources outside of Yahoo groups. This garbage is being circulated all 
over the place and "somebody, somewhere" IS ABSOLUTELY circulating 
private information obtained. I am receiving "add me" requests from 
individuals I have had ZERO contact with for many years and 
definately would not want to add them to MY FRIENDS list ANYWHERE. 
They are KNOWN hackers and have nothing whatsoever to do with amateur 
radio, if they even know what that is.

Please Andy, if you are going to allow these guys to operate here, 
warn the rest of us who they are so we can block them from our own 
email clients.

I am absolutely befuzzled that Yahoo Groups is violating their very 
own anti-spam policies to allow this themselves. It is bad enough 
that there are some known users in this group that are notorious for 
collecting user emails from the groups they join for the sole purpose 
of soliciting users to their own competing Yahoo Groups. This is also 
against yahoo spam policy, but Yahoo seems to be tolerating it anyway.

Thanks for the good work Andy,

John
KE5HAM

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew O'Brien" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> FYI...
> -- 
> Andy K3UK
> 
> 
> I am one of the co-founders of Grouply.
> I did want to clear up a couple of points, though. As far as 
security
> goes, we carefully protect your Yahoo password - we do not phish or 
do
> identity theft. We use it only for discovering your group list and
> retrieving messages - we will NOT use it for anything else, like 
your
> Yahoo email.
> 
> People cannot read messages in Grouply unless they are a member of
> your Yahoo Group. Part of the reason we need your Yahoo ID and
> password, is that every time you login, we go and check Yahoo Groups
> to see which groups you have joined and which you have left. Go to
> http://blog.grouply.com/protect and view the "How does Grouply 
protect
> the confidentiality of my group messages?" question. So Grouply does
> not expose messages to non-members.
> 
> Honestly we do not want to have the passwords, but that is the only
> way now for us to respect the memberships in Yahoo Groups. If Yahoo
> provides an Yahoo Groups API, we would noy have this issue. We have
> talked to them about this, but there are no firm timetables. If you
> have influence with themÂ… ;-) While I prefer not to get the 
password,
> there are successful services that use passwords from other 
websites.
> Are you familar with meebo? It allows you to use all of your IM
> accounts from one site (like what Grouply does, but for IM). To do
> that, you have to store your Yahoo, AOL, MSN, etc. passwords and IDs
> on their website. They have over 19 million users - any of which 
could
> be a member of these groups. Check out mint.com - they aggregrate 
your
> financial data. There you store your bank and credit card account
> passwords and IDs - which is more sensitive than even my Yahoo ID 
and
> password, at least for me.
> 
> Rich"
>


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