[digitalradio] Re: New to Digital HF -- PACTOR setup and hardware maybe needed???

2006-08-28 Thread Dave Bernstein
The issue is control over the operating system's scheduling decisions. There are real-time versions of Linux that are comparable in this dimension to the firmware running in a TNC; given sufficient CPU horsepower, a Pactor-2 or Pactor-3 implementation on realtime Linux is feasible. The

[digitalradio] Re: New to Digital HF -- PACTOR setup and hardware maybe needed???

2006-08-28 Thread Dave Bernstein
There are variants of Linux with pre-emptive scheduling; this enables guaranteed real-time response. Linux-based cellphones use this approach, for example. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_real-time Dave, AA6YQ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Chris Jewell ae6vw- [EMAIL

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New to Digital HF -- PACTOR setup and hardware maybe needed???

2006-08-28 Thread Steve Hajducek
GM Dave, Yes, a technical item up for discussion. I must assume that you have never done any Near Real Time Systems development such as ATE or Industrial Control applications under MS-Windows? I on the other hand have and the WIN32 API beginning all the way back with Windows NT implemented a

[digitalradio] Re: New to Digital HF -- PACTOR setup and hardware maybe needed???

2006-08-28 Thread Dave Bernstein
Precise timing isn't the issue, Steve. WinWarbler originally used GetTickCount() and QueryPerformanceCounter() in its CW generation code, but a high-resolution timer using the multimedia library is sufficiently accurate and more convenient. The problem is thread scheduling. WinWarbler uses

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New to Digital HF -- PACTOR setup and hardware maybe needed???

2006-08-28 Thread Steve Hajducek
Hi Dave, I mentioned AMTOR as its timing is more robust that PACTOR I. As I have stated to the MARS-ALE users, the future version of that tool when PACTOR I support is added ont he PCSDM will pretty much own the OS, not a problem for our purposes as that one program running is our only

[digitalradio] Re: New to Digital HF -- PACTOR setup and hardware maybe needed???

2006-08-28 Thread Dave Bernstein
Agreed, there's no problem if you can own the OS; but on an end- user's Windows PC, you can't do that. 73, Dave, AA6YQ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steve Hajducek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dave, I mentioned AMTOR as its timing is more robust that PACTOR I. As I

[digitalradio] Re: New to Digital HF -- PACTOR setup and hardware maybe needed???

2006-08-28 Thread Dave Bernstein
Chas, the term modem is a contraction of modulator and demodulator; it purpose is the bidirectional conversion of digital signals to analog signals. There are many different kinds of modems, employing different modulation techniques to achieve different speeds and error rates over different