Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-14 Thread Phil Barnett
On Sunday 13 January 2008 08:15:45 pm John Becker, WØJAB wrote: > The "anti-automatic"  and   "anti-everything-that-is-not-PSK31" > hams have a very hard time understanding what the rest are doing. Some of us are just ant-Bully In The Neighborhood. You simply refuse to recognize that some modes

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
Comments in line >Your problem, John, is that you are unable to stick to an argument of >the issues. Instead, everything becomes personal with you as evidenced >by the above ad hominem remarks. Disappointing. Wrong again Roger. I do pactor as well as RTTY and Amtor. I can copy each of them mo

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread Roger J. Buffington
John Becker, WØJAB wrote: > > At 08:14 AM 1/13/2008, you wrote: > > Twice in the last seven days I have had QSOs disrupted by a Pactor > > Winlink station firing up on top of my QSO. Fortunately, both times > > I turned the power way up (from about 40 watts to 200 watts) and we > > were able to wo

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
At 08:14 AM 1/13/2008, you wrote: > Twice in the last seven days >I have had QSOs disrupted by a Pactor Winlink station firing up on top >of my QSO. Fortunately, both times I turned the power way up (from >about 40 watts to 200 watts) and we were able to work through it. Roger - how do you k

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
At 08:05 AM 1/13/2008, you wrote: >This is getting ridiculous! It takes me nearly 10 seconds to say >"This is AA5J Is the frequency in use?" In what mode?

[digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread expeditionradio
> Bill N9DSJ wrote: > Hello Bonnie, > Thanks for the reply. > It just seemed pretty convoluted; and, at best, nebulous. > To be honest I have never heard anyone complain about > soundings, but I may miss a lot. Compared to some > best-not-be-mentioned systems, ALE operations have not > shown up

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war

2008-01-13 Thread kh6ty
> All the ALE data activity is in the automatic subbands unless the > stations manually QSY off frequency under operator control. > > So what's the concern? As long as it always stays in the automatic subbands, there should be no concern. In fact, ALE is a valuable resource, IMHO. Skip KH6TY

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war

2008-01-13 Thread Alan Barrow
Skip wrote: > > except in designated beacon areas or the > > automatic subbands ( where it is presumed by the FCC to occur, since > > unattended stations do not, and cannot, listen first for any other > activity > > within range of the unattended station). All the ALE data activity is in the autom

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread Box SisteenHundred
Exactly... they *just* don't get it Bill KA8VIT > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:22:37 -0500 > Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink > > Look at it this way - N

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread Roger J. Buffington
expeditionradio wrote: > > This is simply childish backlash directed at me personally because I > opposed the Digital Stone Age Petition. It really has nothing at all > to do with HFLINK or ALE. It will go away. > > Bonnie KQ6XA Actually, what is childish is the never-ending assertion by Winl

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread Chuck Mayfield
This is getting ridiculous! It takes me nearly 10 seconds to say "This is AA5J Is the frequency in use?"

[digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread kh6ty
Look at it this way - NO transmissions without listening first, either ALE soundings, beacons, or mailboxes of any kind, are permissible on the *shared* HF amateur bands, except in designated beacon areas or the automatic subbands ( where it is presumed by the FCC to occur, since unattended sta

[digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread Bill McLaughlin
Hello Bonnie, Thanks for the reply. It just seemed pretty convoluted; and, at best, nebulous. To be honest I have never heard anyone complain about soundings, but I may miss a lot. Compared to some best-not-be-mentioned systems, ALE operations have not shown up on my qrm map. 73, Bill N9DSJ -

[digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-12 Thread Bill McLaughlin
Or "This Was" :) --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Patricia \(Elaine\) Gibbons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That's the way I look at it, Bill ... > > > > A sounding message is simply the station's callsign as the ALE ID, > and soundings are only done if the station has an operator

[digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-12 Thread expeditionradio
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Bill McLaughlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hard to discern what is actually happening; seems like a tempest in a > teapot. > > 73, > > Bill N9DSJ Hi Bill, This is simply childish backlash directed at me personally because I opposed the Digital Stone

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-12 Thread Patricia (Elaine) Gibbons
Elaine -- Patricia (Elaine) Gibbons WA6UBE / AAR9JA http://www.qrz.com/wa6ube _ From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill McLaughlin Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 4:42 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Troub

[digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-12 Thread Bill McLaughlin
Hard to discern what is actually happening; seems like a tempest in a teapot. 73, Bill N9DSJ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > After Tony Blair has solved the Israel-Palestine issue, he may be > needed to address those old fashioned RTTY folks w