Re: [digitalradio] USA; Baud Limit = 300 Symbols Per Second (HF Digital Data)

2006-09-01 Thread Mark Miller
There is no equipment for the emission to be FSK or PSK. This should read there is no requirement for the emission to be FSK or PSK. 73, Mark N5RFX Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector :

RE: [digitalradio] USA; Baud Limit = 300 Symbols Per Second (HF Digital Data)

2006-09-01 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
-Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 11:56 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] USA; Baud Limit = 300 Symbols Per Second (HF Digital Data) [stuff deleted] This might be true if the 64

RE: [digitalradio] USA; Baud Limit = 300 Symbols Per Second (HF Digital Data)

2006-09-01 Thread Mark Miller
So what would be the difference if I transmitted 64 tones/carriers each modulated at 300 baud but transmitted them through one transmitter or 64 tones/carriers through 64 transmitters into one antenna? Walt, From a regulatory standpoint I don't think there is a problem. I think that Pawel

RE: [digitalradio] USA; Baud Limit = 300 Symbols Per Second (HF Digital Data)

2006-09-01 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [digitalradio] USA; Baud Limit = 300 Symbols Per Second (HF Digital Data) So what would be the difference if I transmitted 64 tones/carriers each modulated at 300 baud but transmitted them through one transmitter or 64 tones/carriers through 64 transmitters into one

RE: [digitalradio] USA; Baud Limit = 300 Symbols Per Second (HF Digital Data)

2006-09-01 Thread Mark Miller
I wasn't picking on Pawel at all...I just used MT63 as an example. Walt, I understand. My diatribe was to make the point that the occupied bandwidth has a bearing on the general acceptance of a mode. 73, Mark N5RFX Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org

RE: [digitalradio] USA; Baud Limit = 300 Symbols Per Second (HF Digital Data)

2006-09-01 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Symbols Per Second (HF Digital Data) I wasn't picking on Pawel at all...I just used MT63 as an example. Walt, I understand. My diatribe was to make the point that the occupied bandwidth has a bearing on the general acceptance of a mode. 73, Mark N5RFX Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect

Re: [digitalradio] USA; Baud Limit = 300 Symbols Per Second (HF Digital Data)

2006-09-01 Thread KV9U
Walt, There are typically layers of stations on many of the bands. It depends upon your antenna system and to a certain extent, operator skill, when attempting to work really weak stations. It is not uncommon for wall to wall signals where you can not find a decent open area. Not to mention

RE: [digitalradio] USA; Baud Limit = 300 Symbols Per Second (HF Digital Data)

2006-08-31 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:26 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] USA; Baud Limit = 300 Symbols Per Second (HF Digital Data) It appears that USA hams are the only ones in the world operating under the thumb of such an obsolete 300 baud limit for digital data

Re: [digitalradio] USA; Baud Limit = 300 Symbols Per Second (HF Digital Data)

2006-08-31 Thread KV9U
Bonnie, If MT-63 is legal on the ham bands, since each tone runs at 10 or 20 baud depending upon the commonly used versions of this mode, but has 64 tones, it would seem that it is running well over 300 baud when you consider the entire waveform. The question that I need to be clear on is how

RE: [digitalradio] USA; Baud Limit = 300 Symbols Per Second (HF Digital Data)

2006-08-31 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
at Scott AFB. Walt/K5YFW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 11:25 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] USA; Baud Limit = 300 Symbols Per Second (HF Digital Data) Bonnie, If MT-63

Re: [digitalradio] USA; Baud Limit = 300 Symbols Per Second (HF Digital Data)

2006-08-31 Thread Mark Miller
A-63 is legal on the ham bands, since each tone runs at 10 or 20 baud depending upon the commonly used versions of this mode, but has 64 tones, it would seem that it is running well over 300 baud when you consider the entire waveform. The entire waveform is one symbol. There are 10 symbols per

Re: [digitalradio] USA; Baud Limit = 300 Symbols Per Second (HF Digital Data)

2006-08-31 Thread KV9U
Mark and group, When you say the entire waveform is one symbol, could you expand that a bit. What do you mean by the waveform. Do you mean the total waveform of the emission spread out over the l KHz or 2 KHz bandwidth? I am probably just not understanding this correctly but if there are 64

[digitalradio] USA; Baud Limit = 300 Symbols Per Second (HF Digital Data)

2006-08-30 Thread expeditionradio
It appears that USA hams are the only ones in the world operating under the thumb of such an obsolete 300 baud limit for digital data on HF! As far as I have been able to research, the rest of the world's hams have no such 300 baud limitation placed upon them. The USA FCC rule is 300 baud