Re: [digitalradio] cognitive radio systems;?

2009-12-16 Thread Trevor .
Os > below the > background noise level.   It could be made > easier by restricting automatic > (cognitive) radio to spectrum where weak signal modes will > not be > encountered. > > Cortland > KA5S > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Bob McGwier

Re: [digitalradio] cognitive radio systems;?

2009-12-16 Thread Cortland Richmond
nd noise level. It could be made easier by restricting automatic (cognitive) radio to spectrum where weak signal modes will not be encountered. Cortland KA5S > [Original Message] > From: Bob McGwier > To: > Date: 12/16/2009 12:54:35 AM > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] cognitive ra

Re: [digitalradio] cognitive radio systems;?

2009-12-15 Thread Bob McGwier
Cortland Richmond wrote: > > > One problem with "cognitive radio" is that it seems it will be designed > to detect only emissions similar to those it is meant to receive. > Therefore, it is best used in spectrum particularly allotted to > just those kinds of emissions. This rather defeats th

Re: [digitalradio] cognitive radio systems;?

2009-12-15 Thread Cortland Richmond
elect. Cortland KA5S - Original Message - From: Phil Williams To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: 12/15/2009 1:21:30 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] cognitive radio systems;? I first heard of cognitive radio systems when efforts were underway to make use of the 'white

Re: [digitalradio] cognitive radio systems;?

2009-12-15 Thread Bob McGwier
So long as vanity repeaters are put up by people who are willing to become litigious, this is a war that will have MANY casualties. We are not the government (anywhere in the world, not just US) and have the right of "eminent domain" over spectrum, property, etc. I would love to see repeater c

Re: [digitalradio] cognitive radio systems;?

2009-12-15 Thread Bill V WA7NWP
> I first heard of cognitive radio systems when efforts were underway to make > use of the 'white space' in the television broadcast bands.  The whole idea > is to make more efficient use the the spectrum by putting situational > awareness in to the client device. One example we're discussing i

RE: OT!!! Re: [digitalradio] cognitive radio systems;?

2009-12-15 Thread Simon HB9DRV
Indeed they are: here's a video of N9VV using my radio over the internet... http://www.sdr-radio.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=DYGMyXoqIS8%3d&tabid=178&; mid=1016 Simon Brown http://sdr-radio.com > -Original Message- > From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > > I am happy amateur radio OPE

Re: [digitalradio] cognitive radio systems;?

2009-12-15 Thread Dave Ackrill
Simon HB9DRV wrote: > There's much more to amateur radio than just operating - at least over this > side of the pond. Here self-education is important. Despite all the code > I've written there's nothing I enjoy more than listening to 160m CW. And that's why the predictions of the death of Amateur

RE: [digitalradio] cognitive radio systems;?

2009-12-15 Thread Simon HB9DRV
I doubt whether amateur radio has ever been more alive than it is at present. Simon Brown http://sdr-radio.com > -Original Message- > From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Ackrill > > It seems, to me, that the predictions of the dea

OT!!! Re: [digitalradio] cognitive radio systems;?

2009-12-15 Thread Bob McGwier
Same here. I do not operate digital modes at all personally, even those I helped to create and/or improve. I operate 160m and 40m CW almost exclusively. That does not stop me from conducting experiments, doing design work, and using the brain I was given to learn and expand knowledge. I bel

Re: [digitalradio] cognitive radio systems;?

2009-12-15 Thread Phil Williams
I first heard of cognitive radio systems when efforts were underway to make use of the 'white space' in the television broadcast bands. The whole idea is to make more efficient use the the spectrum by putting situational awareness in to the client device. http://www.technologyreview.com/read_arti

RE: [digitalradio] cognitive radio systems;?

2009-12-15 Thread Simon HB9DRV
There's much more to amateur radio than just operating - at least over this side of the pond. Here self-education is important. Despite all the code I've written there's nothing I enjoy more than listening to 160m CW. Simon Brown http://sdr-radio.com From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mai

Re: [digitalradio] cognitive radio systems;?

2009-12-15 Thread Dave Ackrill
DANNY DOUGLAS wrote: > This all may sound like sour grapes to those who are pushing these > innovations, but I do really worry about the future of this hobby, and where > it is heading, but I have heard others saying the same things. As one who > has enticed young people into the hobby, taught

Re: [digitalradio] cognitive radio systems;?

2009-12-15 Thread DANNY DOUGLAS
oups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159 - Original Message - From: Bob McGwier To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] cognitive radio systems;? Andy and others: I think you mean that the p

Re: [digitalradio] cognitive radio systems;?

2009-12-15 Thread Bob McGwier
Andy and others: I think you mean that the people who programmed today's radios are smart. They have written excellent DSP algorithms to process the signals YOU select for the radio. Suppose we have a radio capable of doing any kind of waveform we wish to do (gnuradio is a step in the right d

AW: [digitalradio] cognitive radio systems;?

2009-12-15 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
Snip. Just what is considered to be a "cognitive radio system" ? Snip... A intelligent radio . If you say one of the "bad words" like terrorism, bomb, president ... etc The qso is stored as mp3 file . now if there is a cellphone repeater or a wlan net available, the radio connects to cia and r

Re: [digitalradio] cognitive radio systems;?

2009-12-15 Thread Ian Wade G3NRW
>-Original Message- From: Andy obrien Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 Time: 05:43:46 > > 3. AI 1.19 - Software-defined radio and cognitive radio systems; > >Just what is considered to be a "cognitive radio system" ? Most >radios these days are pretty "smart", maybe the next generation will >t

[digitalradio] cognitive radio systems;?

2009-12-15 Thread Andy obrien
The ARRL Newsletter mentioned .. One of the major topics of discussion at the AC meeting involved the upcoming WRC-12, the World Radiocommunication Conference in 2012. The AC adopted preliminary IARU positions on the WRC agenda items that relate to amateur radio or may impact the amateur radio s