Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-07-06 Thread Miroslav Skoric (YT7MPB)
expeditionradio wrote: A blatant example was what we saw with abolition of morse testing. If the old morse test wasn't enough to scare away the first generation of computer-raised youngsters, then the next generation of web kids was turned off by the vitriol spewed by those who fought to keep

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-07-06 Thread Dan Hensley
) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Miroslav Skoric (YT7MPB) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 5, 2008, 11:16 AM expeditionradio wrote: A blatant example was what we saw

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-07-06 Thread Rick Johnson
Miroslav, Try going to: http://www.tapr.org/pr_whypacketradio.html to see if it meets your needs. Rick W3BI --- On Sat, 7/5/08, Miroslav Skoric (YT7MPB) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Miroslav Skoric (YT7MPB) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-07-05 Thread Patrick Lindecker
. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: kc4cop996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 4:12 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology Patrick: Please advise the version of MixW that has Contestia as one of its modes. I

RE: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-07-05 Thread r_lwesterfield
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology Hello Dick, Mixw has a Contestia+RTTYM DLL. The second mode (RTTYM) is not very interesting has you have the same sort of problem as with RTTY (you can switch from one set to another of characters and lose part

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-07-05 Thread w4lde
@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 3:35 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Dave AA6YQ aa6yq@ wrote: On what basis do you claim

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-07-03 Thread F.R. Ashley
HI John, I was in the USAF from 1968-1972, and we used the old oilers with punched tape, I think it was a model 15? Nothing like the smell and noise of the old clunkers. 73 Buddy WB4M Interesting statement. Not to long ago I was at a meeting of a big group of hams. The subject came up

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-07-03 Thread Rick W.
I was in the USAF from 1968 to 1972 but did not work in communications (more along the lines of security, HI). It was not until a few years after I was relicensed in 1980 that I got involved with digital modes buying a Model 15 and making a simple TU promoted by the ARRL as a state of the art

RE: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-07-03 Thread Dave AA6YQ
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:34 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology HI John, I was in the USAF from 1968-1972, and we used the old oilers with punched tape, I think it was a model 15? Nothing like the smell and noise of the old

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-07-03 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
Yes indeed. And that noise and smell lives on in this shack... You should be here sometime when I have all 3 running at once. What a wonderful sound ! At 07:34 AM 7/3/2008, you wrote: HI John, I was in the USAF from 1968-1972, and we used the old oilers with punched tape, I think it was a

RE: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-07-03 Thread Dave AA6YQ
: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:35 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Dave AA6YQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On what basis do you claim that Olivia, DominoEX, and MFSK are better than PSK for ragchewing

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-07-03 Thread F.R. Ashley
: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology Yes indeed. And that noise and smell lives on in this shack... You should be here sometime when I have all 3 running at once. What a wonderful sound ! At 07:34 AM 7/3/2008, you wrote: HI John, I was in the USAF from 1968-1972, and we used

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-07-03 Thread Patrick Lindecker
and Multipsk 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 3:35 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Dave AA6YQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On what

RE: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-07-03 Thread Dave AA6YQ
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology Hello all, Just to say that aside to Olivia, you have a mode which name is Contestia, which is twice quicker than Olivia and almost as sensitive. It is built on the same principle as Olivia but with different

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-07-03 Thread David H. Walker
Lindecker *Sent:* Thursday, July 03, 2008 3:06 PM *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology Hello all, Just to say that aside to Olivia, you have a mode which name is Contestia, which is twice quicker than Olivia and almost as sensitive

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-07-03 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- On Thu, 7/3/08, tailfeathers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: tailfeathers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 4:03 PM PSK software is simple to use and free everywhere

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-07-03 Thread Kevin O'Rorke
Benson wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Dave AA6YQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On what basis do you claim that Olivia, DominoEX, and MFSK are better than PSK for ragchewing? Olivia is slow, and MFSK is difficult to tune. I could care less about mode envy but I will

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-07-02 Thread Kevin O'Rorke
garylinnrobinson wrote: If most PSK operators are interested in rag chewing -they need to move on to a better digital mode. PSK and RTTY are the two worst modes available. And that's the problem. Too many people, groups, and leaders in the Ham Community promoting OLD and less than effective

RE: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-07-02 Thread Dave AA6YQ
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology If most PSK operators are interested in rag chewing -they need to move on to a better digital mode. PSK and RTTY are the two worst modes available. And that's the problem. Too many people, groups, and leaders in the Ham Community

RE: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-07-02 Thread Dave AA6YQ
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology garylinnrobinson wrote: If most PSK operators are interested in rag chewing -they need to move on to a better digital mode. PSK and RTTY are the two worst modes available. And that's the problem. Too many

RE: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-06-22 Thread Bill Lovell
I think the basic problem is that fewer than 10% of PSK31 operators have ever bothered to learn how to set up split operation. One more reason that the mode is great for casual DXing, but next to useless for serious DX work. 73, Bill

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-06-22 Thread Alan Jones
Bill Lovell wrote: I think the basic problem is that fewer than 10% of PSK31 operators have ever bothered to learn how to set up split operation. One more reason that the mode is great for casual DXing, but next to useless for serious DX work. 73, Bill I have never tried PSK31. I

RE: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-06-21 Thread Curt Givens
] On Behalf Of expeditionradio Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 9:12 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology Dave, AA6YQ wrote, The amateur radio's community rapidly adopted PSK31 once panoramic reception on soundcard-equipped PCs became

RE: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-06-21 Thread rojomn
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology AA6YQ comments below --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, expeditionradio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, AA6YQ wrote, The amateur radio's community rapidly adopted PSK31 once panoramic

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology

2008-06-21 Thread Rick W.
As usual, Dave puts the correct perspective to advancing technology. Ask yourself why others would attack what many radio amateurs enjoy doing and even go so far as to use extreme name calling and personal attacks of hams don't happen to support their vision or beliefs of what should be a