This, and ALL the other discussions slamming the ARRL & FCC NEED to go to THIS
GROUP!!! The group below was specially started for JUST SUCH discussions!
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PLEASE
This is NOT what this group is all about! PLEASE take it ELSE WHERE!
Rod
KC7CJO
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Guys,
Here is my guess...the ARRL would NOW love to do reg by BW,
but the FCC isn't buying it. They don't want to get into that
level of detail in any enforcement actions.
The agency may go along with it for VHF and UHF because the
impact is more local, but on HF their ability to enforce (or NOT
Dave,
Another good point! The ARRL does NOT, I believe, listen much
to non-members...and that is the way it should be!
Their main concern is to keep it's members happy, which is OK, as long as
it's for
the ultimate good of the service...that can be a very tough balance act!
73,
John
K8OCL
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Bruce,
>We have had PSK and RTTY and APRS users for DECADES
>and because they take up similar space they do not
>cause a problem AND they have place themselves AWAY
>from most other users .
This is what bandplanning, gentlemen's agreements, and cooperation
give us. Your example shows how a
We have had PSK and RTTY and APRS users for DECADES
and because they take up similar space they do not
cause a problem AND they have place themselves AWAY
from most other users . however you know unlike
the 5 watt comments What we see on 6 is the HIGH power
boys crawl out of the woodwork at the
This number is really quite large. I would not concur that there are
500K active hams though. Not even half of the licensed hams are really
very active. And the great majority of hams are Technician class and not
as concerned about anything that might affect HF, so they would not even
understan
I think this is true in the part 90 world, but not in part 97. There
really is no FCC mandate with respect to the ARS for spectral efficiency.
73,
Mark N5RFX
>In a time period shorter than most of us realize, most of the VHF and
>UHF bands will be all digital. The FCC is moving all other users
their mind to it.
Walt/K5YFW
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>The ARRL has no clue . and do not care .
I respect your opinion.
>When open 6 meters is packed solid from 50.105 to 50.5
>with ssb there are AM users on 50.400 and PSK-31
>between 50.5 and 50.7 RIGHT NOW the band is closed but
>it will not be in 2 to 3 years the only open spot is
>betw
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The ARRL has no clue . and do not care .
When open 6 meters is packed solid from 50.
The ARRL has no clue . and do not care .
When open 6 meters is packed solid from 50.105 to 50.5
with ssb there are AM users on 50.400 and PSK-31
between 50.5 and 50.7 RIGHT NOW the band is closed but
it will not be in 2 to 3 years the only open spot is
between 50.7 and 51.5 above that are
Bruce,
I will "work it out when 6 is OPEN" world wide" and not interfere
with repeaters on 2 meters because I will continue to follow the
clause that says "no amateur operator shall willfully or maliciously
interfere with or cause interference to any radio communication or
signal" . How does c
440 ALSO has NO SKIP and 8 TIMES the space
NOW how are you going to work it out when 6 is OPEN
world wide ?
ANYONE with a half a brain knows 6 is not the place
for this ..
also how are you not going to interfere with repeaters
on 2 meters they cover 3 out of 4 mhz of that
band ?
440 MHz has had a authorized bandwidth of 100 kHz for nearly 20
years. The repeaters and other operations there seem to work just
fine. Just because the authorized bandwidth is 100 KHz doesn't mean
that the whole band will be filled with 100 Khz signals.
73,
Mark N5RFX
>WALT ... THINK TH
WALT ... THINK THINK ... 100 khz wide signals
are going to KILL any band you put them on and do you
think anyone will look for OTHERS before fireing up a
digital radio .. GEESE go on 75 and lissen to SSB
they can't even handle THAT mode ..
--- Walt DuBose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro
Walt,
Are there really ~500k 'active' operators, and more than 200k on HF? Or
is that just licenses that haven't expired? I personally know 2
licensed 'hams' in my area that don't even know what their call signs
are, let alone have any intention of ever owning or operating a radio,
and they t
You of course ask a question that only the readers can answer.
For my part it would be Ok to open up the entire band for any bandwidth mode
but
with enforcement of a non-QRM requirment. Since the U.S. FCC does not have
that
capability, any bandplan would have no real enforcement capability.
But is 1471 such a large number given that there are about 500,000 active
amateur radio operators in the U.S. and more than 200,000 on HF?
If there were 10 times the number of responses, then the Board might listen.
73,
Walt/K5YFW
Dave Bernstein wrote:
> Re: " Truthfully from what I hear from
Do you really feel that there is a consensus on this group to support
division by bandwith? Based upon many comments, there also appears to be
a significant number who are uncomfortable with that approach and who
favor keeping mode types separated.
And I would be surprised if the majority was i
Bonnie,
I do think the time is right; but, I think it has been for several years.
I truly believe that to just say we need more bandwidth without showing why we
have not case or change to change the League's position.
Show then in as simple terms as possible why more bandwidth is needed or why
The original ARRL regulation by bandwidth proposal put wide data in the same
band segments with image and voice transission. Their members seem to have
convinced them otherwise. Perhaps they need to hear from supporters of
regulation by bandwidth.
73,
John
KD6OZH
- Original Message
The FCC has been saying until recently that the narrow modes belong in
the text data area, but then they recently made a big change in
reinterpreting what narrow band means in order to include Pactor 3 type
modes which are similar to the passband of a standard SSB signal.
The change to include
What you're proposing is regulation by bandwidth. Once you're in a QSO with
another station it shouldn't matter what you send. The only issue is where the
different band segments for the different bandwidths are located.
73,
John
KD6OZH
- Original Message -
From: n6vl
To: digit
There are great possibilities for experimentation in ham radio. Look at all
of the advancements that hams have developed over the years. Even
television was developed by several ham operators. The first non-government
satellite was built by amateur radio operators, etc. Today, it appears that
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