Re: [digitalradio] Hellschreiber on-air comparison
Hi Tony, I have often switched from FH to FSK-Hell when working the States from VK via the Long-Path on 20M when conditions are poor. Often switching to FSK was the only way to complete (or even initiate) the QSO and the improvement in copy was often quite dramatic, from very difficult/impossible copy to arm-chair copy. de Laurie, VK3AMA On 3/08/2010 10:32 AM, Tony wrote: All, I spent a little time this weekend comparing FSK-Hell to the standard Feld Hell mode. FSK-Hell is a modified version of PSK-Hell which was developed to improve readability over HF. The difference tends to show up more on long-haul paths where signals are more likely to encounter ionospheric distortion. Unfortunately, I didn't find any DX, but I did manage to work a few west coast stations from here in W2. I didn't expect to see much of an improvement since conditions on 20 meters were relatively quite (moderate multi-path fading), but in practice, there was a noticeable difference. Contrast was noticeably improved and the text did stand out more with FSK-Hell than it did with Feld Hel. This is especially true with weak signals. The 105 baud mode allows even more contrast which shows up both on-air and with the path simulator. All in all, FSK-Hell does offer better readability over Feld Hell. Click on the link below to see an on-air and example of how the modes compared. FSK-Hell is available in IZ8BLY's Hellschreiber (FM-Hell), DM780, MixW and Multipsk. http://www37.zippyshare.com/v/71092013/file.html Tony -K2MO http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html Chat, Skeds, and Spots all in one (resize to suit) Facebook= http://www.facebook.com/pages/digitalradio/123270301037522 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster
Yes Dave, Apart from my test PC virus/malware protection, whenever there is a change in an executable or dll I run them through an online scanner (20MB file limit) here http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/ It runs the submitted file through 19 different scanners, with the occasional false-positive on one or two. Results of the scans are shared with the anti-virus companies. The site generates a permalink for each file that allows you to distribute the scanning results to whomever. Just ran the 3 executables through the site Cluster.exe http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/scanresult/7142b3c4c3e3076d5f55aa826a272678a67d1cbb PSKReporter.exe http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/scanresult/b8e275b738f1634bcc24fa081b1a83eb27e1289c ROS v4.8.4 Beta.exe http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/scanresult/e6e6238fb976a46d4db4dae564d59c5f2757ab73 de Laurie, VK3AMA On 25/07/2010 1:29 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote: Has anyone checked to see whether the ROS code contains a keylogger, trojans, or a rootkit? 73, Dave, AA6YQ
Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster - NOT
Hi Steinar, Mr Ros has a habit of rolling out new versions without updating the version number. So my non working v4.8.2 may have been different to yours. Currently v4.8.3 has been updated 3 times today (they way to tell is that the Medifire Link where the files are hosted changes every-time he uploads a new file). v 4.8.3 is not spamming the Cluster based on my tests. So that is progress. Unfortunately the option to turn off spots is ON by default, so users have to go and look for it. I suspect we will still see lots of the Cluster Auto-Spots because the people who didn't block it at the firewall and happily used ROS without regard for the Spam Spots they were generating will be too lazy, or uninterested to find the OFF option. Mr ROS hardcoded another 2 Cluster Nodes into his software in this last release. At least some progress has been made. de Laurie, VK3AMA On 24/07/2010 7:22 PM, Steinar Aanesland wrote: Hi Laurie I have been running the latest version of ROS in a sandbox monitoring its network behavior with the software SmartSniff from Nirsoft http://www.nirsoft.net over a period of 2 hours. ROS was constantly sending information to PSKReporter , but never to the Cluster. But I believe you if you mean it still spams the Cluster and that is really sad :( LA5VNA Steinar On 24.07.2010 00:21, Laurie wrote: Hi Steinar, Unfortunately, v4.8.2 of ROS still spams the DX Cluster with auto-spots. Only way to effectively stop is block adif.exe at the firewall. ROS Auto-Spots too Cluster currently represent 98% of all ROS Cluster spots, with ROS representing 6.2% of all Cluster spots (7 day period). As far as I can tell, ROS software is the only Digital-Mode software that doesn't allow the user to turn off auto-spots (to either PSKReporter or Cluster) or allow user-selection of Cluster. The user is not given any choice. All the other software developers are more Ham/Cluster friendly. :( de Laurie, VK3AMA On 24/07/2010 2:35 AM, Steinar Aanesland wrote: Hi all, It seems that the latest ROS is not spamming the cluster. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html Chat, Skeds, and Spots all in one (resize to suit) Facebook= http://www.facebook.com/pages/digitalradio/123270301037522 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster
Hi Sigi, Jose uses Cluster Auto-Spots to advertise his software. The more spots, the more it appears to be a popular mode to the uninformed Cluster User. Jose, clearly doesn't understand the Ham/Cluster culture. Maybe we can change his attitude by passing on these concerns to his Beta-Tester who might be better placed to change his mind. I know who the Beta-Tester is, email me privately and I will pass on the info (no it is not me, Hi) de Laurie, VK3AMA On 25/07/2010 5:50 AM, Siegfried Jackstien wrote: As we have now the autoreport to pskreporter we do not need the autospots anymore (but jose thinks it is still needed)
Re: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster
Under the Skeds menu, then Cluster de Laurie, VK3AMA On 24/07/2010 7:26 PM, Steinar Aanesland wrote: Hi Siegfried I can't find this switch, where is it hiding? LA5VNA Steinar On 24.07.2010 10:03, Siegfried Jackstien wrote: Autospot can now be turned off with a switch Spotting by hand is possible So jose did some major changes in that way Now we have 2 programms running in background of the soft ros One sends spots to cluster via telnet And the other sends spots to psk reporter page for display them on a map Greetz Sigi Dg9bfc
Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster
Because, outside the US, there is a large EU user-base of ROS users contributing a significant of unwanted spam to the Cluster. de Laurie, VK3AMA On 25/07/2010 11:28 AM, F.R. Ashley wrote: After reading endless posts about this software, I sincerely wonder why in heck anyone is even using it. What are the chances of giving it a rest? 73 Buddy WB4M http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html Chat, Skeds, and Spots all in one (resize to suit) Facebook= http://www.facebook.com/pages/digitalradio/123270301037522 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster
Because, outside the US, there is a large EU user-base of ROS users contributing a significant of unwanted spam to the Cluster. de Laurie, VK3AMA On 25/07/2010 11:28 AM, F.R. Ashley wrote: After reading endless posts about this software, I sincerely wonder why in heck anyone is even using it. What are the chances of giving it a rest? 73 Buddy WB4M http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html Chat, Skeds, and Spots all in one (resize to suit) Facebook= http://www.facebook.com/pages/digitalradio/123270301037522 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster - NOT
Hi Steinar, Unfortunately, v4.8.x of ROS still spams the DX Cluster with auto-spots. Only way to effectively stop is block adif.exe at the firewall. ROS Auto-Spots too Cluster currently represent 98% of all ROS Cluster spots, with ROS representing 6.2% of all Cluster spots (7 day period). As far as I can tell, ROS software is the only Digital-Mode software that doesn't allow the user to turn off auto-spots (to either PSKReporter or Cluster) or allow user-selection of Cluster. The user is not given any choice. All the other software developers are more Ham/Cluster friendly. :( de Laurie, VK3AMA On 24/07/2010 2:35 AM, Steinar Aanesland wrote: Hi all, It seems that the latest ROS is not spamming the cluster. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
[digitalradio] Why HamSpots dropped support for ROS
Why HamSpots dropped support for ROS. After I publicly exposed the ROS Auto-Spotting behaviour, I indicated to Jose (Mr ROS) that, using the Cluster for auto-spotting wasn't the best idea, and that I was willing to provide a facility on HamSpots.net for automated spotting from his software. Similar to the dediacted websites that currently exist for the other Reverse-Beacon networks, WSPR, JT65, PSK(reporter) and CW(Skimmer). Included in the (free) offer was a dedicated subdomain ros.hamspots.net After several emails, it became clear that Mr ROS would not allow any interaction with HIS software (What interaction?? it would be one-way, ROS-HamSpots) and he would continue to use the existing DX Cluster network to propagate the ROS Auto-Spots. I chose to remove the ROS Spotting, Chat Reporting facilities of HamSpots.net after that. The only public ROS reporting is purely statistical. de Laurie, VK3AMA PS. ROS Auto-Spot spam is currently 97% of all ROS Cluster spots (7 day period) http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html Chat, Skeds, and Spots all in one (resize to suit) Facebook= http://www.facebook.com/pages/digitalradio/123270301037522 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: digitalradio-dig...@yahoogroups.com digitalradio-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digitalradio-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] Some Cluster Stats - ROS auto-spotting
FYI I ran some sql over the database at HamSpots which carries 7 days of Cluster spots. ROS Software Auto-Spots run at over 95% of all ROS mode spots. Data from from www.HamSpots.net/ros/ Cluster Spot Summary: -- 48,261 : Total Cluster Spots 2,886 : Total ROS Spots 5.98% : Percentage ROS Spots ROS AUTO Spot Summary: -- 2,886 : Total ROS Spots 2,764 : Total AUTO Spots 95.77% : Percentage AUTO Cluster Node Counts: -- 175 : US6IQ-1 492 : 9A0CSI 483 : 9A0DXC 366 : UA4CC 220 : SM4ONW-14 469 : SM0RUX-6 322 : SK3W-6 5 : SM6YOU-2 7 : SM7GVF-6 100 : BG2RVL-9 43 : BD5RV 46 : BA2IA-2 36 : 9H1LO-1 -- de Laurie, VK3AMA
[digitalradio] Testing Confirms ROS Autospot Behaviour
Yesterday I ran some tests and can confirm that ROS software (Betas 4.5.7, 4.5.8, 4.6.0 4.6.2) is auto-spotting to the cluster without any control from the op. ROS has hard-coded the following Clusters and connects to one of these if possible. dxc.us6iq.com dxc.ham.hr 9a0dxc.hamradio.hr remo3.renet.ru cluster.sk4bw.net ax25.org sk3w.se sector7.nu sm7gvf.dyndns.org I setup my internet router to re-route these addresses (and ports) to a Cluster Node I have setup locally for testing to avoid spotting to the live Cluster. Then left the ROS software in RX mode (no TX) monitoring 20M. Over 20 spots were generated over a 2 hour period. Different comment strings were sent in the spots. A closer inspection of the internal code of ROS reveals randomising code (select a random string) and the following hard-coded Cluster spotting strings. tnx ros mode 73 ROS Mode tnx fer ROS QSO ROS 599 ROS 559 CQ ROS CQ ROS Mode CQ ROS. ROS ros 599 ROS Mode 73, ros mode ROS, 73 tu ROS Mode ROS test copy ROS Mode -SN dB ROS QSO NAME ros mode QTH ROS Mode QTH 599 ROS -SN dB ROS -SN dB at QTH ROS CQ -SN dB ROS. TNX QSO. 73 NAME NAME, QTH are substitued with the configured settings and SN the received S/N ratio. Clearly the use of several variations of text, mixing upper- lower-case letters, 599 559 reports is all designed to make anyone viewing the Cluster think that these ROS spots are Human generated and not auto-spot spam. The ROS developer has NOT documented, in ether the User Guide or FAQ, this auto-spot advertising facility of his software. My observations. de Laurie, VK3AMA
[digitalradio] ROS Developer will continue to auto-spot despite complaints
from his website http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/07/10/ros-and-cluster/ Jose says... ROS uses a system that send reports to the DX Cluster automatically. This is useful to know who are listen you and the system is done so as not to saturate the cluster (only send some spot). If you are not agree with this function that help to the communication, don’t use ROS software. Interpret that as you want. de Laurie, VK3AMA http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html Chat, Skeds, and Spots all in one (resize to suit) Facebook= http://www.facebook.com/pages/digitalradio/123270301037522 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: digitalradio-dig...@yahoogroups.com digitalradio-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digitalradio-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] ROS Developer will continue to auto-spot despite complaints
With this action (or inaction) from Mr ROS and considering all of his past actions/comments it becomes clear (to me) that he has an agenda and Hams are being used as beta-testers to help fulfil his ultimate goal. He has shown several times an unwillingness to embrace Ham Spirit and Ham Operating Standards. His Agenda? I suspect it is commercial in nature. My thoughts. de Laurie, VK3AMA On 11/07/2010 9:17 AM, Dave Wright wrote: Just goes to show that he reads the boards and keeps track of what is going on. Now, how easy would it be to program a button to disable the function with one toggle in the software? Very easy! Then he could open it to everyone to decide whether they want the reporting or not. Since he won't allow this, and says take it or leave it, one must truly question what else it does or can do. Dave K3DCW On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Laurie, VK3AMA group...@vkdxer.com mailto:group...@vkdxer.com wrote: from his website http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/07/10/ros-and-cluster/ Jose says... ROS uses a system that send reports to the DX Cluster automatically. This is useful to know who are listen you and the system is done so as not to saturate the cluster (only send some spot). If you are not agree with this function that help to the communication, don’t use ROS software. Interpret that as you want. de Laurie, VK3AMA http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html Chat, Skeds, and Spots all in one (resize to suit) Facebook= http://www.facebook.com/pages/digitalradio/123270301037522 Yahoo! Groups Links digitalradio-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com -- Dave K3DCW www.k3dcw.net http://www.k3dcw.net Real radio bounces off of the sky http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html Chat, Skeds, and Spots all in one (resize to suit) Facebook= http://www.facebook.com/pages/digitalradio/123270301037522 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: digitalradio-dig...@yahoogroups.com digitalradio-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digitalradio-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC
I finally installed ROS and it triggered my firewall trying to connect to 109.72.112.37 port 7300. I did a Telnet, it is Cluster Node US6IQ-1 Today I again started ROS and this time the firewall triggered on ROS connecting to 82.182.70.198 port 8000, which is Cluster Node SM6YOU-2 I have never used either of these nodes, so obviously, they are hard-coded into ROS. I note from viewing the Cluster Spots, there are a several Cluster Nodes (these two included) that are used frequently for sending ROS spots. It appears the Mr ROS has hard-coded several Cluster nodes and changes which is used. There is no option in ROS to allow the user to select their preferred Cluster Node. Just my observations. de Laurie, VK3AMA On 9/07/2010 5:28 AM, Steinar Aanesland wrote: Hi Rain You have absolutely right . ROS are sending data from your PC to the cluster. Try to type the IP address 90.225.73.203:8000 into your browser and you get this: login: GET / HTTP/1.1 Host: 90.225.73.203:8000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; nb-NO; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 Accept-Language: nb,no;q=0.8,nn;q=0.6,en-us;q=0.4,en;q=0.2 Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 Keep-Alive: 115 Connection: keep-alive Sorry GET / HTTP/1.1 is an invalid callsign - Then try to type c:telnet 90.225.73.203 8000 , then you will see that this is TELNET and that explains the funny call sings . Whe people is bande in this software whey are using a fake call sign . This fake call sign is the sent to the cluster when people is in RX mode. I hope this is understandable . LA5VNA Steinar On 08.07.2010 20:53, Steinar Aanesland wrote: Hi Rein After reading your mail about ROS and the HamSpots , I have done some testing. I have monitored the activity of the latest ROS v4.5.7 in RX mode. I have been using Process Explorer from Sysinternals (microsoft) .With The Process Explorer you have the possibility to see the network activity in real time . What I fount out was that the ADIFdata2 module in ROS was trying to connect to the address: 90.225.73.203, 217.31.161.71,8 or 217.31.161.34.50 on port 8000 and sending data from my computer. LA5VNA Steinar On 08.07.2010 05:20, Rein A wrote: Thank you, Laurei: Where Do The Spots Come From? 08-Jul-2010 14:45utc There has been much internet speculation that HamSpots gets the ROS spots directly from the ROS Software. This is INCORRECT. ROS spots are retrieved from the DX Cluster ONLY. This site has no relationship with the ROS software or its developer. HamSpots maintains a private dedicated Cluster Node and processes all incoming spots to that node to determine the mode being used (ROS, PSK, RTTY, SSTV, HELL, etc.) to display correctly on the individual Mode Pages. HamSpots also takes direct feeds from the PSKReporter Network (thanks to N1DQ) and the JT65 Reverse Beacon Network (thanks to W6CQZ). 73 Rein, W6SZ http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html Chat, Skeds, and Spots all in one (resize to suit) Facebook= http://www.facebook.com/pages/digitalradio/123270301037522 Yahoo! Groups Links
[digitalradio] How ROS is auto-spotting to the Cluster.
While researching ROS cluster spots arriving at HamSpots.net via the Cluster, I have discovered how the ROS software is auto-spotting to a list of nodes that may be of concern to the Node Sysops. The following Node addresses are hard-coded in the software. dxc.us6iq.com dxc.ham.hr 9a0dxc.hamradio.hr remo3.renet.ru cluster.sk4bw.net ax25.org sk3w.se sector7.nu sm7gvf.dyndns.org ROS software establishes a connection at startup using your callsign and varies which node it connects to, not always the same node. When a qso is logged a spot is auto generated (there is no option in ROS to turn this off that I could find) and the text of the spot is changed based on another hard-coded list of messages. This is obviously done to give the impression that the spot is sent from a human (unlike the past flooding of the network, same text and same node). *** No where in the ROS FAQ or User Guide is this behaviour documented. *** I ran ROS in RX mode today, after a callsign was decoded, I hit the log button and it sent a spot to the cluster without permission with my name and call thanking the other station for the QSO. A quick review of recent ROS spots shows the same listed nodes being used and similar style comments. What other surprises are hidden in this software? de Laurie, VK3AMA
[digitalradio] New Improved Active LoTW Search by US State page on Hamspots.net
The Search by US State of Active Callsigns using LoTW page on Hamspots.net has had some major updates. The search results now show the last known year of upload to LoTW of callsigns (great for avoiding those who haven't uploaded in many years). The Spot count is broken down by mode making it much easier to identify the callsigns that may help towards CW,PHONE or RTTY WAS Triple Play. The Other mode is for the less popular modes that aren't CW,SSB,RTTY,PSK or WSJT (JT65), like Throb, ROS, SSTV, etc. The Unknown mode is for those spots where the mode could not be determined from the Cluster spot comments. Enjoy. de Laurie, VK3AMA
[digitalradio] Correction - New Improved Active LoTW Search by US State page on Hamspots.net
Sorry, forgot the link in the last email. Page here... http://www.hamspots.net/lotw/ de Laurie, VK3AMA
Re: [digitalradio] ROS discussion - will it ever end
I propose we change this group name to the... ROS Roundabout. I keep seeing the same arguments from the same preple over and over. That reminds me of GroundHog Day the movie. :-) I am so over the whole discussion, not to mention the ops who insist on firing up ROS16 on 30m at 10141 right in the middle of a band full of PSK31 signals. de Laurie, VK3AMA Marco IK1ODO -2 wrote: At 10:00 01-03-10, G4JNT wrote: rgh I agree 100% :-) - it has become a sterile discussion, IMHO. 73 - Marco IK1ODO / AI4YF
Re: [digitalradio] Digital sked page: New ideas ?
Hi Andy, I think the secret is to try and provide functionality (what that is I don't know) that encourages the site visitor to interact with the page. HamSpots routinely hits 50+ online users on weekends, but nobody is posting any spots. It reminds me of people complaining a band is dead because they can't see/hear any activity, the trouble is everyone is listening and no one is CQing, Hi. de Laurie, VK3AMA Andrew O'Brien wrote: Hi Sholto, I am just back from holiday and saw your post. Your question has been one that has been on my mind recently, I am not sure what can be done to add interest. The SKCC and LOTW sked pages are often very busy but the interest in the sked page for digital mode skeds seems to be dwindling. I saw no increase when the hamspots page was down for a month. I thought the nice new design and link to PSKreporter at hamspots would bring lots of users to hamspots and make my sked page even less used, however Hamspots can go many hours without a spot too (except PSkreporter ). I think it may be time for something new to spice things up but I am not sure what that is for the digital mode enthusiasts. Joe and I have added as many interesting features to the sked page as we can think off. I still think some form of integration of PSKreporter might be useful although I am not sure how to add that...yet. Something like the auto-reporting module you wrote for Multispk and your old spotting page might be useful too. Ideally, some easy form of my rig is tuned to would be of help but perhaps one that is not dependent on a particular piece of software, something that reports your frequency and mode live to a webpage regardless of whether you are using Multipsk, DM780, Winwarbler, FLdigi, or other applications. Reporting what you hear would also be interesting if it could be filtered to prevent endless reports of the same station in a mundane mode. Spotcollector still appears, to me, to be the most useful spot related system. I'm not sure what would be best, creating something that could take data filtered FROM Spotcollector and automatically posted to a sked page for digital modes, or creating a system where data is SENT to a digital mode only cluster that would interface with Spotcollector and end users could customize as they wish. Perhaps we can get a few comments . Andy K3UK On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Sholto Fishersho...@probikekit.com wrote: Just wondered why there are so few spots on Andy's sked page recently? http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/ also I am QRV on 14074 with RS-ID and CALL ID monitoring. 73 Sholto K7TMG Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Digital sked page: New ideas ?
Hi Andy, Sound alert with no javascript, no cookies, no ajax, php onlyEasily done! Direct email to follow. de Laurie, VK3AMA obrienaj wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Laurie, VK3AMA grou...@... wrote: Hi Andy, I think the secret is to try and provide functionality (what that is I don't know) that encourages the site visitor to interact with the page. HamSpots routinely hits 50+ online users on weekends, but nobody is posting any spots. It reminds me of people complaining a band is dead because they can't see/hear any activity, the trouble is everyone is listening and no one is CQing, Hi. de Laurie, VK3AMA I agree Laurie. ONE development that I think would help is the ability to send an audible alert to someone . Alas that seems not possible with PHP coding. Many people set their PC to the sked page (and hamspots) and then go about other tasks such as checking their email or twidling the dial. If K3UK sends Laurie, you up for a QSO on 30M? VK3AMA may not see it for several minutes and K3UK may have left before VK3AMA responds. I have consulted several PHP experts about the ability to send some audible beep but each response I receive suggest it is not possible. You can program an audible alert in the sked page HTML code but it would play at each refresh, that would be annoying. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] New 40m Band Plan
And the rather pathetic Region 3 bandplan is here... http://www.iaru-r3.org/r3bandplan.doc with the only band showing digital modes is 20M !!! de Laurie, VK3AMA Trevor . wrote: Hi Andy, The IARU Region 2 (Americas) bandplan gives digital as 7035-7043 as against the 7040-7050 for 500 Hz BW digimodes and 7050-7060 for 2700 Hz BW digimodes used in Region 1. It's unfortunate there is a difference between regions, lets hope they can work towards harmonisation. IARU Region 1 bandplan http://www.iaru-r1.org/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=175Itemid=127 IARU Region 2 bandplan http://www.iaru-r2.org/wp-content/uploads/region-2-mf-hf-bandplan-e.pdf 73 Trevor M5AKA Daily Amateur Radio Email/RSS News: http://www.southgatearc.org/ --- On *Sun, 19/7/09, Andrew O'Brien /andrewob...@gmail.com/* wrote: From: Andrew O'Brien andrewob...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] New 40m Band Plan To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 19 July, 2009, 10:02 PM I did not know that, but have noticed less Europeans at 7035, Andy K3UK On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Andrew es...@yahoo.com /mc/compose?to=es...@yahoo.com wrote: Has anyone noticed that the band plan for 40m has been changed. I for one had not seen it. It has changed the frequency for digi modes from the 7035 area up to 7040 to 7047. I still hear most stations around 7035 Link is below Andy LY/ES2DY
Re: [digitalradio] New 40m Band Plan
Sorry, I bit quick with that last email. I should have scrolled to the bottom of the page, NB=Narrow Band modes are listed on other bands. Still not the best for Region-3 ops. 40M phone down to 7030, 80M phone down to 3535 with no digital mentioned at all. de Laurie, VK3AMA Laurie, VK3AMA wrote: And the rather pathetic Region 3 bandplan is here... http://www.iaru-r3.org/r3bandplan.doc with the only band showing digital modes is 20M !!! de Laurie, VK3AMA Trevor . wrote: Hi Andy, The IARU Region 2 (Americas) bandplan gives digital as 7035-7043 as against the 7040-7050 for 500 Hz BW digimodes and 7050-7060 for 2700 Hz BW digimodes used in Region 1. It's unfortunate there is a difference between regions, lets hope they can work towards harmonisation. IARU Region 1 bandplan http://www.iaru-r1.org/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=175Itemid=127 IARU Region 2 bandplan http://www.iaru-r2.org/wp-content/uploads/region-2-mf-hf-bandplan-e.pdf 73 Trevor M5AKA Daily Amateur Radio Email/RSS News: http://www.southgatearc.org/ --- On *Sun, 19/7/09, Andrew O'Brien /andrewob...@gmail.com/* wrote: From: Andrew O'Brien andrewob...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] New 40m Band Plan To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 19 July, 2009, 10:02 PM I did not know that, but have noticed less Europeans at 7035, Andy K3UK On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Andrew es...@yahoo.com /mc/compose?to=es...@yahoo.com wrote: Has anyone noticed that the band plan for 40m has been changed. I for one had not seen it. It has changed the frequency for digi modes from the 7035 area up to 7040 to 7047. I still hear most stations around 7035 Link is below Andy LY/ES2DY
Re: [digitalradio] HRD 5.0
Still no RTTY FSK then? Is that ever going to be an option? de Laurie, VK3AMA Simon (HB9DRV) wrote: Hi, Off the top of my head: 1) Smoother UI - less cluttered, 2) Soundcard calibration - not yet implemented for all modes but will be in the first public beta, this really is needed for wider modes such as MT63 and 2k Olivia. 3) Improved waterfall with a zoom feature, I find that I need this for tuning in some modes... 4) Seamless operation of the whole HRD 5.0 suite on an Intel Atom 1.6GHz - already running very nicely with my ASUS EEE PC 1000H. 5) Remote soundcard support using TCP. 6) And part of HRD 5.0 is a new and *much* better logbook. 7) as and when I get time more SSTV and better SSTV weak signal synchronisation. 8) Dual (Triple ?) waterfall / soundcard support. Public betas at the end of June, already available for the HRD test team. I'm on schedule and bopping along nicely. And then late in 2009 - DM780 integration with my own SDR console. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: aa777888athotmaildotcom aa777...@hotmail.com So what do we have to look forward to in the HRD 5.0 version of DM780? Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] Happy Australia Day
Hi Andy, Hot here in Melbourne, 35 degrees. The only thing cold is the Beer I'm holding! 73 de Laurie, AX3AMA Happy Australia Day to all our VK members. Hope the weekend is not too hot for you, Melbourne looked nice and warm on TV today. Better than the 18 inches of snow I have outside my house! Andy K3UK Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked DRCC contest info : http://www.obriensweb.com/drcc.htm Yahoo! Groups Links
