Re: [Discuss] (OT) Steve Jobs 1955-2011

2011-10-05 Thread Rich Braun
Jobs was certainly a controversial figure, and his business steamrolled a lot of the smaller companies whose entrepreneurial initiatives could have gone farther. But I think I will remember him for challenging his rivals. Some things that are hard to deny: * He showed that industrial design (for

Re: [Discuss] (OT) Steve Jobs 1955-2011

2011-10-05 Thread Philipp Bliedung
Sent via iPhone On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:14 PM, Richard Chonak wrote: > You stay classy, now! > --RC > > > On 10/05/2011 08:26 PM, ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote: >> I know it is bad form to speak ill of the dead, especially the recently >> dead. In the end, Steve Jobs did copy some other people's

Re: [Discuss] (OT) Steve Jobs 1955-2011

2011-10-05 Thread markw
I am truly sorry to seem crass, but there is always that uncomfortable reality where "titans of industry" have their transgressions white-washed out of respect for their good works. Apple under Steve Jobs was a litigious nightmare. Anything that threatened Apple's ever so holy image was sued into

Re: [Discuss] (OT) Steve Jobs 1955-2011

2011-10-05 Thread Richard Chonak
You stay classy, now! --RC On 10/05/2011 08:26 PM, ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote: I know it is bad form to speak ill of the dead, especially the recently dead. In the end, Steve Jobs did copy some other people's products in a way that people liked, but his business practices were as bad as busines

Re: [Discuss] (OT) Steve Jobs 1955-2011

2011-10-05 Thread Jack Coats
Steve Jobs did something right, but was no saint either. He drove the concept of a simple human interface almost to a fault, even if he did pick up many of the innovations from others over time. He had a life that provided a computing and entertainment experience to others that would not have bee

Re: [Discuss] (OT) Steve Jobs 1955-2011

2011-10-05 Thread markw
> A comment like that would be bad form, spoken of any person dead or alive. > We all know there are people who like and dislike people like Jobs and > Gates > and Lennon. It doesn't do any good to speak like that. It's only going > to > inject a little bit of venom into the minds of people who r

Re: [Discuss] (OT) Steve Jobs 1955-2011

2011-10-05 Thread markw
I know it is bad form to speak ill of the dead, especially the recently dead. In the end, Steve Jobs did copy some other people's products in a way that people liked, but his business practices were as bad as business gets. The world has lost a litigious huckster who has squashed the innovation of

[Discuss] (OT) Steve Jobs 1955-2011

2011-10-05 Thread edwardp
It is being reported in the media that Steve Jobs passed away this evening. http://www.apple.com/stevejobs/ --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 111005-1, 10/05/2011 Tested on: 10/5/2011 8:05:45 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2011 AVAST Software. http://www.avas

Re: [Discuss] Disk numbering

2011-10-05 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 10/05/2011 12:25 PM, Bill Bogstad wrote: > This isn't a reply to any particular message on this thread, but I > haven't seen anyone mention the /dev/disk directory yet. On my > Ubuntu systems, it contains subdirectories by-uuid, by-label, > by-path, etc. Those sub-directories contain symlink

Re: [Discuss] ZFS

2011-10-05 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 10/05/2011 10:18 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >> From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- >> bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Feldman >> >> Btrs is supposedly a better >> file system than ext4, but, it is still somewhat immature on Linux. I >> think t

[Discuss] [OT] Biology Job Question

2011-10-05 Thread Jerry Feldman
A coworker of mine has relocated his family from Israel, and his wife is looking for a job, primarily as a biology researcher. I know that a few people here have contacts in biology departments at MIT and other colleges, I just want to see if anyone here can provide me with a few contacts that I ca

Re: [Discuss] Disk numbering

2011-10-05 Thread Bill Bogstad
This isn't a reply to any particular message on this thread, but I haven't seen anyone mention the /dev/disk directory yet. On my Ubuntu systems, it contains subdirectories by-uuid, by-label, by-path, etc. Those sub-directories contain symlinks to the more traditional sd or mapper names for dri

Re: [Discuss] more on software patent

2011-10-05 Thread Rich Braun
Jerry Feldman observed: > one of the biggest issues is not patents per se, but the fact that > litigation can take many years ... it does > not matter if the allegation stands or not, it is sometimes the fact > that a company will settle even though it knows it can win. One of the famous cases is

Re: [Discuss] kernel.org

2011-10-05 Thread markw
>> From: Jon Masters [mailto:jonat...@jonmasters.org] > Nothing against John or Peter, but there's such a thing as change > management. If it was easy to put it back up quickly and safely, but it > needs to be overhauled to enhance functionality, then the thing to do is > put it back up quickly,

Re: [Discuss] kernel.org

2011-10-05 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: Jon Masters [mailto:jonat...@jonmasters.org] > > > Kernel.org has been down for like 3 weeks. > > It's back up now (well, the main archive). Whew, thank goodness. Now I'll see if I can get to the btrfs mailing list. ;-) > > I know there was a security > > breach, but by not getting i

Re: [Discuss] ZFS

2011-10-05 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- > bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Feldman > > Btrs is supposedly a better > file system than ext4, but, it is still somewhat immature on Linux. I > think that if one of the major distros decides to use it as a

Re: [Discuss] Disk numbering

2011-10-05 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 10/05/2011 02:26 AM, Jon Masters wrote: > On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 14:36 -0400, Jerry Feldman wrote: >> On 10/01/2011 10:49 AM, Matt Iavarone wrote: >>> On 10/01/2011 10:26 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: 2 weeks ago when I added a new 1.5TB ($49) HD to use as backup, my drives were numbered sda