Re: [Discuss] Help with destination of syslog messages?

2012-03-29 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Scott Ehrlich writes: I am tailing /var/log/messages and only see host-only traffic, but another terminal window running tcpdump (or tcpdump -X port 514) DOES show incoming traffic from the clients. My question is where the heck is that data going? There are NO error messages on whichever

[Discuss] LVM vs File system file for KVM Virtual Machines?

2012-03-29 Thread markw
Hopefully without getting into an augment about the pros and cons of LVM vs btrfs or zfs, does anyone want to discuss the pros and cons of LVM device for a virtual machine vs a file on a file system for a virtual machine? So, do you create a 30G file on a file system, like EXT3, jfs, or xfs and

Re: [Discuss] LVM vs File system file for KVM Virtual Machines?

2012-03-29 Thread Derek Atkins
Mark, Think about it this way: when using a file on the file system the VM has a whole extra layer of indirection that it has to go through, because it has to go through the FS layer in the VM, then the block layer in the VM, then the VM system storage layer, and then the FS layer in the host,

Re: [Discuss] LVM vs File system file for KVM Virtual Machines?

2012-03-29 Thread markw
Mark, Think about it this way: when using a file on the file system the VM has a whole extra layer of indirection that it has to go through, because it has to go through the FS layer in the VM, then the block layer in the VM, then the VM system storage layer, and then the FS layer in the

Re: [Discuss] LVM vs File system file for KVM Virtual Machines?

2012-03-29 Thread Richard Pieri
LVM2, barring a specific need for image files. I/O performance is really the least concern. - I can make snapshots of running systems with LVM2. Can't do it at all with image files. - I can easily resize LVM-backed file systems. Image files typically require conversion and writing new

Re: [Discuss] LVM vs File system file for KVM Virtual Machines?

2012-03-29 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Derek Atkins Think about it this way: when using a file on the file system the VM has a whole extra layer of indirection that it has to go through, because it has to go through

Re: [Discuss] LVM vs File system file for KVM Virtual Machines?

2012-03-29 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of there is caching in the file system layer that we wouldn't get with LVM, Think about it like this: On reads: The guest OS will read some file. If it's a partial file, or it's

Re: [Discuss] LVM vs File system file for KVM Virtual Machines?

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Woodward
On 03/29/2012 01:59 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: I see very little, if any, argument in favor of using the file. I suppose, if you wanted to run your virtual head on some other machine, then you could export your file via NFS instead of iscsi, and that gives you one extra degree of freedom if

[Discuss] What is my work title?

2012-03-29 Thread Jerry Natowitz
My current position is described as Engineer who wears many hats. Not a title I would use on my resume. A co-worker told that there is a very specific title for the work I do, but he can't remember it. What I do, and have been doing for two companies since 2000, is to manage the computer

Re: [Discuss] What is my work title?

2012-03-29 Thread Richard Pieri
Your title has little bearing on the work you do. It's what your box on the org chart is called. It may also be a pay grade reference. Check with your HR people if you've forgotten your formal title. -- Rich P. ___ Discuss mailing list

Re: [Discuss] What is my work title?

2012-03-29 Thread Jack Coats
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Richard Pieri richard.pi...@gmail.com wrote: Your title has little bearing on the work you do.  It's what your box on the org chart is called.  It may also be a pay grade reference.  Check with your HR people if you've forgotten your formal title. -- Rich P.

Re: [Discuss] LVM vs File system file for KVM Virtual Machines?

2012-03-29 Thread Jay Kramer
Great discussion. Thanks Jay On Mar 29, 2012 2:12 PM, Mark Woodward ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote: On 03/29/2012 01:59 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: I see very little, if any, argument in favor of using the file. I suppose, if you wanted to run your virtual head on some other machine, then

Re: [Discuss] What is my work title?

2012-03-29 Thread Jerry Natowitz
Of course I know what HR calls me (my job title, as opposed to work title): Senior Applications Engineer. Why would I post here to get that information? Okay, maybe I should have said that my job is going away and I'd like something fairly descriptive on my resume that might cause a person

Re: [Discuss] What is my work title?

2012-03-29 Thread Richard Pieri
On Mar 29, 2012, at 5:27 PM, Jerry Natowitz wrote: Okay, maybe I should have said that my job is going away and I'd like something fairly descriptive on my resume that might cause a person or (more likely) data mining program to notice me. Yes, that does change my inferred context. Your