[Discuss] SuSE RedHat/Fedora Users?

2012-11-05 Thread Will Rico
On Weds (Nov 7) at 6:30p, the desktop SIG is meeting at MIT. We are holding a vote for the best distro in order to bring some lightness to the election season and spark some discussion. We don't have anyone to make the case for SuSE or RedHat/Fedora as a desktop OS. Any aficionados out there

Re: [Discuss] UEFI secure boot pre-loader security considered further Re: Fwd: [linux_forensics] Did you see this ? - Linux Foundation Announces Secure Boot Solution ....

2012-11-05 Thread Tom Metro
Rich Pieri wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: The bottom line here is that UEFI will prevent some Linux users from installing Linux, especially in the near future. No, it will not. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either lying or has bought into the anti-Microsoft propaganda. There is no truth

Re: [Discuss] UEFI secure boot pre-loader security considered further Re: Fwd: [linux_forensics] Did you see this ? - Linux Foundation Announces Secure Boot Solution ....

2012-11-05 Thread Rich Pieri
On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:00:56 -0400 Tom Metro tmetro+...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't seen any recent articles that have made this claim. What I The Linux Foundation article that sparked this thread repeatedly made precisely this claim. have seen expressed is a concern that non-technical users

Re: [Discuss] Getting OS/HW details?

2012-11-05 Thread Ian Levesque
On Nov 2, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Scott Ehrlich wrote: If I wanted to write a script to obtain distro flavor (Ubuntu, CentOS, RH, Mint, BSD, Solaris, etc), major/minor version (5.3, 10.6, etc), hardware brand/make/model, at least for starters, what would be the best way to attack it? My approach

Re: [Discuss] Disabling UEFI and dual booting Linux and Windows

2012-11-05 Thread Derek Martin
On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 03:14:32PM -0500, Laura Conrad wrote: Rich == Rich Pieri richard.pi...@gmail.com writes: Rich I'll bet more of you have Secure Boot capable computers than you Rich realize. So how do we tell? A better question might be, Does it matter? Even if your

Re: [Discuss] Disabling UEFI and dual booting Linux and Windows

2012-11-05 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 11/04/2012 06:28 PM, Rich Pieri wrote: On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 17:34:40 -0500 John Abreau abre...@gmail.com wrote: Saying Let's test it is the exact opposite of taking it at face value. Agreed, but that was not what was being said. That's in large part due to a lack of hardware available to

Re: [Discuss] Disabling UEFI and dual booting Linux and Windows

2012-11-05 Thread Laura Conrad
Derek == Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.org writes: Derek On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 03:14:32PM -0500, Laura Conrad wrote: Rich == Rich Pieri richard.pi...@gmail.com writes: Rich I'll bet more of you have Secure Boot capable computers than you Rich realize. So

Re: [Discuss] Disabling UEFI and dual booting Linux and Windows

2012-11-05 Thread Rich Pieri
On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 16:47:59 -0500 Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org wrote: The latest information I have from a software professional who is on this list and who does work with UEFI is that non-server Windows 8 systems will not boot into Windows 8 if UEFI is disabled. Server or Interesting. Work

Re: [Discuss] Disabling UEFI and dual booting Linux and Windows

2012-11-05 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 11/05/2012 05:25 PM, Laura Conrad wrote: Derek == Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.org writes: Derek On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 03:14:32PM -0500, Laura Conrad wrote: Rich == Rich Pieri richard.pi...@gmail.com writes: Rich I'll bet more of you have Secure Boot capable

Re: [Discuss] Disabling UEFI and dual booting Linux and Windows

2012-11-05 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 11/05/2012 07:59 PM, Rich Pieri wrote: On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 16:47:59 -0500 Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org wrote: The latest information I have from a software professional who is on this list and who does work with UEFI is that non-server Windows 8 systems will not boot into Windows 8 if UEFI

Re: [Discuss] Disabling UEFI and dual booting Linux and Windows

2012-11-05 Thread Rich Pieri
On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 21:04:29 -0500 Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org wrote: I think it only affects the preinstalled consumer version of Windows 8. I want to understand why. What is it about the pre-installed editions that makes them behave differently from the Enterprise edition and Server 2012? My