Hello Martin/Everyone,
Wow! I won something from the great and honorable Dr mo! Yippie! LOL!
=P I was also trying to clarify what I think was missed in my
communication. Tom and I were never talking about doing anything other
than help the group grow membership by honest SEM practices.
Joseph,
Marketing is inherently unethical. At best, marketing presents
incomplete truths in order to paint the product as favorably as
possible; at worst, it's close to lying outright about the product.
Even so-called honest marketing is still done
Pointing at Google as an 'expert' on
Hello Richard,
With the greatest respect I have to disagree. Your current
understanding of Marketing is biased to say the least. Marketing is the
art/science of communicating value to customers. There is nothing
inherently dishonest about that at all. Like other fields there may be
dishonest
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You're very welcome Joseph,
On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 07:27 -0700, Joseph Guarino wrote:
deluded and confused
I think you mean mis-defined. I believe the two words above could be
misconstrued as pejoratives for people who have genuine undeluded
definitions.
Marking is about getting attention; so
hi
On 10/22/13 15:20 , Martin Owens wrote:
Marking is about getting attention
isn't this a bit simplistic? marketing also wants to persuade you to
take some action. otherwise, self-immolation could qualify as marketing.
i think it's the techniques used for this persuasion that put people
off
Joseph Guarino wrote:
With the greatest respect I have to disagree. Your current
understanding of Marketing is biased to say the least. Marketing is the
art/science of communicating value to customers. There is nothing
[snrk]
Marketing is neither art nor science. It's the process of
hi
On 10/22/13 15:20 , Martin Owens wrote:
Marking is about getting attention
isn't this a bit simplistic? marketing also wants to persuade you to
take some action. otherwise, self-immolation could qualify as marketing.
Well, the term obtuse comes to mind. :-)
Marketing is a term used to
Joseph Guarino wrote:
With the greatest respect I have to disagree. Your current
understanding of Marketing is biased to say the least. Marketing is the
art/science of communicating value to customers. There is nothing
[snrk]
Marketing is neither art nor science. It's the process of
On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 15:29 -0400, john saylor wrote:
self-immolation could qualify as marketing.
One man burning makes an entire middle east declare spring time. Talk
about marketing! ;-)
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ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote:
If I plaster an ad with a picture of a cold glass orange juice, and write
Fresh Orange Juice, tastes good and is good for you with natural vitamin
C It is objectively truthful.
Except that it isn't objectively truthful.
What you're not saying is that orange juice
ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote:
If I plaster an ad with a picture of a cold glass orange juice, and
write
Fresh Orange Juice, tastes good and is good for you with natural
vitamin
C It is objectively truthful.
Except that it isn't objectively truthful.
What you're not saying is that orange
ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote:
This is the real problem in this discussion, and probably on much larger
fronts as well.
Rather than a problem, I assert that this is the ultimate fine point of
the discussion. Fact and truth are not synonymous. Related, yes, but not
identical.
Facts are things
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 03:20:33PM -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
So a) Marketing is not all bad and mostly quite necessary and b)
Marketing is an intrusion so should be always considerate.
Well said, sir. Well said.
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On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 05:35:51PM -0400, ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote:
All facts and truths come with caveats. There is no non-trivial thing
that can be considered universally true or false. If one were to say
Water is wet, a fundamental objective truth, it can be countered as
steam is water
On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 19:25 -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
Neither steam nor ice are water; water is liquid dihydrogen monoxide.
Steam is gaseous dihydrogen monoxide, and ice is solid dihydrogen
monoxide.
Water is a chemical compound, It's 'water' in all states. Only lit.
vernacular hints that it
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 08:46:36PM -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 19:25 -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
Neither steam nor ice are water; water is liquid dihydrogen monoxide.
Steam is gaseous dihydrogen monoxide, and ice is solid dihydrogen
monoxide.
Water is a chemical
On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 19:56 -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
ALL definitions indicate that it is H2O in liquid form. Far more
authoritative than Wikipedia IMO.
Also FWIW that post was meant to be humerous. I often forget that my
brand of humor is lost on most people, and omitted the
I realized that my home computers are getting a little long in the
tooth, and I'm looking to build a new one (or two).
A lot of new motherboards come with UEFI BIOSes. Does this mean
anything to me in terms of linux? I'm pretty sure I can put it in
'legacy mode' to disable whatever protection
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