[Discuss] Manual or third-party ESX(i) backup?

2014-10-31 Thread Scott Ehrlich
From a fundamental viewpoint, what is the difference between manually copying VMs from the server to the backup system and using a commercial product, being SRM or third-party? What might we be missing manual vs third-party (or SRM) product? I am not looking at/for assumptions of how the

Re: [Discuss] Manual or third-party ESX(i) backup?

2014-10-31 Thread Richard Pieri
On 10/31/2014 1:22 PM, Scott Ehrlich wrote: If we manually preserved, and lost the VM or the server, and rebuilt with original media, could we simply copy the manually preserved copies back over and be operational again, or are the add-on options the only way to make this happen? The former.

Re: [Discuss] Revisiting VMWare ESX backup options

2014-10-31 Thread Rich Braun
One word on modern backup strategy: encryption. Cloud services like CrashPlan take care of this automatically; traditional tape-backup solutions usually didn't, in the past. I don't know anything about VMware-specific utilities (for VMs I just back up the instance like any other system, and make

Re: [Discuss] Revisiting VMWare ESX backup options

2014-10-31 Thread Richard Pieri
On 10/31/2014 5:43 PM, Rich Braun wrote: One word on modern backup strategy: encryption. I disagree in the general case. Anything that adds unnecessary complexity to a backup system is a failure begging to bite you. -- Rich P. ___ Discuss mailing

Re: [Discuss] Revisiting VMWare ESX backup options

2014-10-31 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 10/31/2014 06:14 PM, Richard Pieri wrote: On 10/31/2014 5:43 PM, Rich Braun wrote: One word on modern backup strategy: encryption. I disagree in the general case. Anything that adds unnecessary complexity to a backup system is a failure begging to bite you. I agree here. If you provide