Re: [Discuss] free SSL certs from the EFF

2014-11-25 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Gillen This is not without new attack vectors: you can only trust DNS responses as far as DNS-SEC goes, which unfortunately ends one-hop before end-systems (unless you

Re: [Discuss] free SSL certs from the EFF

2014-11-25 Thread Matthew Gillen
On 11/25/2014 06:28 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote: From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Gillen This is not without new attack vectors: you can only trust DNS responses as far as DNS-SEC goes, which

[Discuss] Advanced file permisions

2014-11-25 Thread Jerry Feldman
I have an auto mounted directory where I want to restrict access to only members of a specific group, lets call it foogroup for now. I didn't want to use netgroups for a number of reasons in that the NAS is run by a separate team, and they use a different LDAP server than we do. The way I set up

Re: [Discuss] free SSL certs from the EFF

2014-11-25 Thread Richard Pieri
On 11/25/2014 6:28 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote: Based on my understanding of DNSSEC, it doesn't add security except in esoteric edge cases. DNSSEC exists to solve one problem: cache poisoning. It does so by digitally signing entire zones. That's not security; it's authenticity. If

Re: [Discuss] Advanced file permisions

2014-11-25 Thread Richard Pieri
On 11/25/2014 9:38 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: The way I set up the original top level directory is: chmod 2770: rwxrws--- foogroup But when I create a subdirectory I get: rwx--S--- What's your umask? -- Rich P. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org

[Discuss] RCN dhcp problem fixed, root cause a mystery

2014-11-25 Thread Jerry Natowitz
So the problem I was having where neither of my two previously working wireless routers could get a DHCP response from RCN cable modem has been fixed. I needed two things: 1) Time. I really did need to power off everything for 20 minutes. 2) Isolation of the RCN provided Actiontec MoCa

Re: [Discuss] RCN dhcp problem fixed, root cause a mystery

2014-11-25 Thread Richard Pieri
On 11/25/2014 11:09 AM, Jerry Natowitz wrote: Well, it seems that the MoCa bridge does something when plugged directly into either of my wireless routers that it does not do when a wired switch is placed between them. Auto-negotiation glitch? -- Rich P.

Re: [Discuss] root CA bloat

2014-11-25 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 09:35:16PM -0500, Richard Pieri wrote: On 11/24/2014 3:20 PM, Derek Martin wrote: It is a practical impossibility for you (or your organization) to actually truly authenticate each and every entity with whom you do business on the Internet. I don't agree with the

Re: [Discuss] free SSL certs from the EFF

2014-11-25 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:15:51AM -0500, Richard Pieri wrote: On 11/25/2014 6:28 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote: Based on my understanding of DNSSEC, it doesn't add security except in esoteric edge cases. DNSSEC exists to solve one problem: cache poisoning. It does so by digitally

Re: [Discuss] root CA bloat

2014-11-25 Thread Richard Pieri
On 11/25/2014 1:15 PM, Derek Martin wrote: Let's say I meet you on the street, and you tell me you are Steven Smith, and produce very good fake ID to that effect. As it happens (in this scenario) I am exceptionally good at spotting fake ID. I prove that your ID is fake. This does not prove to

Re: [Discuss] root CA bloat

2014-11-25 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 02:52:47PM -0500, Richard Pieri wrote: On 11/25/2014 1:15 PM, Derek Martin wrote: Let's say I meet you on the street, and you tell me you are Steven Smith, and produce very good fake ID to that effect. As it happens (in this scenario) I am exceptionally good at

Re: [Discuss] root CA bloat

2014-11-25 Thread Richard Pieri
On 11/25/2014 3:56 PM, Derek Martin wrote: Oh, right, just like the web of trusted certificate authorities. It's a solved problem, so we really don't need to continue this discussion! Certificate authorities are not webs of trust. They are the opposite of webs of trust. -- Rich P.

Re: [Discuss] root CA bloat

2014-11-25 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 04:18:34PM -0500, Richard Pieri wrote: On 11/25/2014 3:56 PM, Derek Martin wrote: Oh, right, just like the web of trusted certificate authorities. It's a solved problem, so we really don't need to continue this discussion! Certificate authorities are not webs of

Re: [Discuss] Advanced file permisions

2014-11-25 Thread Jerry Feldman
I'm at home, but I think it is 0002 but I'll check in the morning. The most important issue is to set up the top level directory with owner root, and group foogroup. This will prevent unauthorized people from being able to get into the directory. I changed the subdirectories with rwxrwx and our

Re: [Discuss] Advanced file permisions

2014-11-25 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 09:38:52AM -0500, Jerry Feldman wrote: I have an auto mounted directory where I want to restrict access to only members of a specific group, lets call it foogroup for now. I didn't want to use netgroups for a number of reasons in that the NAS is run by a separate team,

Re: [Discuss] root CA bloat

2014-11-25 Thread Richard Pieri
On 11/25/2014 4:31 PM, Derek Martin wrote: Yes, that was my point. Social networks are not either... unless you think someone who has over 1,000 friends on facebook actually completely trusts every one of them. You don't need to completely trust every one of them. You just need to trust a

Re: [Discuss] free SSL certs from the EFF

2014-11-25 Thread Steven Santos
...but complete security is a fairy tale... VMS? ducks away quickly --- Steven Santos Director Simply Circus, Inc. 86 Los Angeles Street Newton, MA 02458 P: 617-527-0667 F: 617-934-1870 E: ste...@simplycircus.com On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.org wrote: On