Re: [Discuss] Who sells the least expensive SSL certs right now?

2014-12-23 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) b...@nedharvey.com wrote: From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Shirley Márquez Dúlcey Free certificates shouldn't be a business model. They should be

Re: [Discuss] Who sells the least expensive SSL certs right now?

2014-12-23 Thread John Abreau
It was asserted in the bugzilla page that startssl refuses to issue a new certificate until you revoke the old one, and that in combination with their typical response times, this results in at least 5 days' downtime when replacing an old startssl-issued certificate with a new startssl-issued

Re: [Discuss] free certs everywhere

2014-12-23 Thread Richard Pieri
On 12/22/2014 10:43 PM, Tom Metro wrote: Probably a big reason this never happened is that when CAs were being established, all that existed were basic certs. The extended validation certs and other value added services were only thought up later. Once the industry was established, hard to

Re: [Discuss] Who sells the least expensive SSL certs right now?

2014-12-23 Thread Richard Pieri
On 12/23/2014 10:28 AM, John Abreau wrote: It was asserted in the bugzilla page that startssl refuses to issue a new certificate until you revoke the old one, and that in combination I should certainly hope so. Issuing new certificates for existing, valid domains and hosts is called a

Re: [Discuss] Who sells the least expensive SSL certs right now?

2014-12-23 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Edward Ned Harvey (blu) So apparently the random-guy-complaining-on-internet who wrote that pearl of wisdom has some personal bias, and should not be trusted at his word. Maybe

Re: [Discuss] Who sells the least expensive SSL certs right now?

2014-12-23 Thread Richard Pieri
On 12/23/2014 1:32 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote: CA trust list. I'm guessing the POTUS and the CIA probably have ways of getting certs out of Verisign and others. Also, there have As an aside, Verisign is out of the CA business. They sold that off to Symantec a few years ago. Fairly

Re: [Discuss] free certs everywhere

2014-12-23 Thread Tom Metro
Richard Pieri wrote: Tom Metro wrote: Probably a big reason this never happened is that when CAs were being established, all that existed were basic certs. The early certificate authorities...were all about identity verification. ...the handful of extant CAs bothered with things like

Re: [Discuss] Who sells the least expensive SSL certs right now?

2014-12-23 Thread Tom Metro
Tom Metro wrote: Similarly, Dreamhost is a reseller for Comodo and has 1-year basic certs for $9 or $10. If you want to save a couple more dollars, a recent security now episode[1] mentioned cheapsslsecurity.com, which is another reseller of certs. The least expensive options are from Comodo,

Re: [Discuss] Who sells the least expensive SSL certs right now?

2014-12-23 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Tom Metro (Short expiration periods are considered better for security, and the high-end extended validation certs top out at 2-years. But if you are just securing the comment

Re: [Discuss] Who sells the least expensive SSL certs right now?

2014-12-23 Thread Tom Metro
Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote: Any time I've seen multi-year certs so far, they just get you to pay in advance, and you still have to reissue the cert once a year. Maybe it's not universal - just what I've seen so far. I wondered if that might be the case. I couldn't find anything definitive