Re: [Discuss] What (free software) options are people using for chat?

2016-05-19 Thread john saylor
/join On 05/18/16 20:43, Greg Rundlett (freephile) wrote: It's remarkable that IRC still exists after all these years. plain text chat still allows humans to communicate effectively with each other. and also the minimal display capability required of clients [plain text] makes it very

Re: [Discuss] systemd explanations

2016-02-18 Thread john saylor
run() On 02/18/16 12:36, Steve Litt wrote: It's too bad. OpenBSD is an excellent OS that always works right. But if the cost of using OpenBSD is hearing all that anti-Linux stuff, perhaps I better stay away from it. hmm ... you can run openBSD without looking at any of the mailing lists or

Re: [Discuss] Finance software for Linux

2015-01-13 Thread john saylor
bonjour On 1/13/15 8:56 , Rich Braun wrote: GnuCash, I'm afraid, is even farther behind on the UI usability front. works for me, but one size does not fit all. It looks like the end of the road for desktop finance; the future is cloud services. But really, I'm a cloud-security developer:

Re: [Discuss] Good and Bad Crypto

2014-04-22 Thread john saylor
On 4/22/14, 14:37 , Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote: You're saying, that the only way anybody in the world can trust anything, is to literally download everything from source, *read* all the source, and compile it themselves. instead of just calling bs can you suggest some other means by which

Re: [Discuss] first time build of GIT server

2014-01-30 Thread john saylor
On 1/30/14, 9:34 , John Malloy wrote: We are very new to GIT. yeah, it takes your while to get your head around distributed source control. Are there sources of help/training on this out there? github.com has a ton of documentation. a lot of it is pertinent to their site, but a bunch is also

Re: [Discuss] NTP Gone Crazy?

2014-01-13 Thread john saylor
On 1/12/14, 16:26 , Kent Borg wrote: -kb, the Kent who feels bad to have been part of a DDoS attack. nothing to feel bad about. you became aware of a problem and even took action. that's a good thing! and you'll probably even do some kinda audit of other stuff on your systems as well [perhaps

Re: [Discuss] BLU's SEO (Martin Owens)

2013-10-22 Thread john saylor
hi On 10/22/13 15:20 , Martin Owens wrote: Marking is about getting attention isn't this a bit simplistic? marketing also wants to persuade you to take some action. otherwise, self-immolation could qualify as marketing. i think it's the techniques used for this persuasion that put people off

Re: [Discuss] our friend the nsa

2013-09-19 Thread john saylor
On 9/19/13 9:36 , Eric Chadbourne wrote: I wonder how much to make of this? think about open source for a moment. also, i do not think linus [or linux] can be subject to an NSA security letter as he is not a US citizen. but it would be easy to fork any open source project and make the

Re: [Discuss] our friend the nsa

2013-09-19 Thread john saylor
On 9/19/13 11:29 , Kent Borg wrote: Maybe the Linux kernel has enough of them that the NSA doesn't need to weaken it, they can just use the weaknesses that are already there. i've got to think that windows [esp] and mac os are *far* more vulnerable to exploits of this type as the source is not

Re: [Discuss] our friend the nsa

2013-09-19 Thread john saylor
On 9/19/13 11:46 , Richard Pieri wrote: Darwin, the Unix layer of OS X, is FreeBSD and the source code is very much publicly available. as i understand it, darwin is a fork of freebsd. apple has some non-open stuff in there too. -- \js [http://or8.net/~johns/] : i am alive

Re: [Discuss] GNU30

2013-09-17 Thread john saylor
On 9/17/13 15:07 , Kurt L Keville wrote: (I am, of course, obliquely referencing the infamous Crazy Crab incident ... http://www.stallman.org/articles/texas.html ) thank you. i was not aware of this incident before your email. and i think i am better off for having come into contact with this

Re: [Discuss] Google Reader Retiring

2013-03-14 Thread john saylor
HELO On 3/13/13 20:09 , Chris O'Connell wrote: That's it. No additional information, no substitution... what gives? U HAVE BEEN P0WNED. Now I'm in a pickle. I use Google Reader on ALL of my devices... Anyone know of any substitutions? due to my paranoid nature, i have been dropping away

Re: [Discuss] Encouraging Children to Explore Open Source

2013-02-04 Thread john saylor
hi On 2/3/13 19:50 , Chris O'Connell wrote: I have trouble thinking that a 9 year old will be able to find a creative use for Linux, as the OS is pretty complicated and requires a lot of knowledge. Further, why would someone so young like to play with a somewhat primitive Gnome interface when

Re: [Discuss] OSS licenses

2013-01-03 Thread john saylor
hi On 1/3/13 16:02 , Doug wrote: If you had the choice, which of those two licenses would you choose and why? well, you have to decide what do you want the license to do for you. if your goals for the code are in anyway aligned with stallman's 4 freedoms:

Re: [Discuss] Running Android on a PC such as Android X86 Project

2012-09-27 Thread john saylor
hi On 9/27/12 15:54 , Brendan Kidwell wrote: I've got an Asus EEE netbook that I was considering installing Android X86 on. I went as far as trying to install the latest build in VirtualBox and I had no trouble whatsoever getting it up and running in that. I gather from the Android X86 docs

Re: [Discuss] Preseason football

2012-08-11 Thread john saylor
*tweeet* steelers fans get no love from the patriots faithful- but it's better than being from ny [giants]. the nfl has all those package deals where you can watch every game everywhere or whatever. the nfl is *very* protective of their product too. it seems unlikely to me that you will be able

Re: [Discuss] Ouya and XBMC

2012-08-09 Thread john saylor
hi On 8/8/12, Rich Pieri richard.pi...@gmail.com wrote: A console needs a continually growing library of good games that people want to play. paraphrasing james carville, it's the games, stupid. it will be interesting to see what happens with this open source console. if we look at the glass

Re: [Discuss] [OT] unions

2012-04-19 Thread john saylor
unions are not perfect, but what is? not all unions are like the teamsters. just like not all management is like ken lewis. without unions don't conditions for workers just get worse? while some management teams understand that taking care of their workers is taking care of the business,

Re: [Discuss] [OT] unions

2012-04-19 Thread john saylor
hi On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 04:51:56PM -0400, john saylor wrote: isn't the union movement on life support in this country? On 04/19/2012 05:34 PM, Derek Martin wrote: I don't know, is it? yes it is. btw, your mother's union experiences are interesting- but they are only one tiny sample

Re: [Discuss] The next Linux desktop

2012-02-10 Thread john saylor
greetings On 02/10/2012 10:33 AM, Richard Pieri wrote: The Macintosh desktop works so well because of the Macintosh Human Interface Guidelines and the uniform enforcement of those guidelines. of course, that cannot happen in an open source world. even if a group went through the trouble of

Re: [Discuss] The next Linux desktop

2012-02-10 Thread john saylor
On 02/10/2012 11:20 AM, Richard Pieri wrote: See... this statement is what distinguishes the technical elite from the common masses. The common masses do want the same desktop. not so sure about this. can we make comparisons to other devices? what about running an automobile versus running a

Re: [Discuss] Software Engineering redux

2012-01-23 Thread john saylor
hello world! On 1/23/12 2:55 PM, Daniel C. wrote: So, we all accept that the title Professional Engineer [deleted] On 01/23/2012 03:09 PM, Richard Pieri wrote: No, we all do not accept this assertion. a better engineer would have validated that assertion before continuing. --

Re: [Discuss] Programming vs Engineering

2012-01-21 Thread john saylor
hello world! On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 13:39, Mark Woodward ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote: http://www.mohawksoft.org/?q=node/86 i understand the point, but i think it gets back to just using the most talented people you can find. then again, i'm not one to focus on labels too much ... a rose by any

Re: [Discuss] Justify your existence

2011-12-16 Thread john saylor
hi On 12/16/2011 11:13 AM, Matthew Gillen wrote: Someone whose primary goal is blame avoidance is someone I would run away from as fast as I could. They aren't going to go anywhere, and if they somehow do manage to climb the corporate ladder in spite of their pile of failures, it won't be in a

Re: [Discuss] networking problem

2011-11-22 Thread john saylor
On 11/22/2011 11:23 AM, j. daniel moylan wrote: any suggestions would be warmly appreciated. hmm, i have an earlier eee and it just works. it's unlikely, but it could be a hardware failure. maybe install another unix or version of ubuntu or the same version of ubuntu on an sd card or usb

Re: Oracle SQL RTFM question

2011-04-06 Thread john saylor
initialize On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Jerry Feldman g...@gapps.blu.org wrote: I know how to create a user, grant, et.al, but I don't know how to set this up to test if a user exists. select count(*) from users where username like '%username%'; ? -- \js : verbing weirds language.

Re: Tape job notification | completion with mail command

2011-01-20 Thread john saylor
hi On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:02 PM, stephen goldman sgold...@mit.edu wrote:    The goal is to put the job in the background and receive an email when the job is complete. shouldn't you just write a shell script [and run it via cron]? it could take arguments to be able to handle different