Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2013-10-31 Thread Eric Chadbourne
I suspect you are correct. But I see no other options in the bios I can change. FWIW when I was installing gnu/linux it did show me both drives and asked me where I wanted to install but I haven't seen the ssd since. I'll dig deeper and post a solution if found. My google foo feels strong

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2013-10-31 Thread Richard Pieri
Eric Chadbourne wrote: I suspect you are correct. But I see no other options in the bios I can change. It's not in EFI (nit pick: there is no PC BIOS on EFI systems. EFI /replaces/ the PC BIOS). It's in the Intel RAID controller setup. Change the controller to RAID. You should see the

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2013-10-30 Thread Eric Chadbourne
Got it working. The magical incantation, at least in my case, was to update the bios (old version was buggy), enable legacy bios mode, enable uefi, switch srt to ata. I can't see the ssd yet but it's so small I don't mind. Everything else seems to be working fine. FWIW I noticed this on

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2013-10-29 Thread Richard Pieri
Matthew Gillen wrote: For the sake of bringing up another topic, I want to thank people for the info on UEFI last week. I decided that being long in the tooth isn't the same as 'broken', and I should put it off a bit longer. If it works, don't break it. What I really want is high-end

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2013-10-29 Thread Robert Krawitz
On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 10:48:13 -0400, Richard Pieri wrote: Matthew Gillen wrote: For the sake of bringing up another topic, I want to thank people for the info on UEFI last week. I decided that being long in the tooth isn't the same as 'broken', and I should put it off a bit longer. If it

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2013-10-29 Thread Richard Pieri
Robert Krawitz wrote: I've run the radeon FOSS driver for quite some time on several adapters without problems. And I've had no end of problems with it ranging from poor performance to systems that crash as soon as the X server starts. -- Rich P.

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2013-10-29 Thread Eric Chadbourne
Anybody have to deal with UEFI and Intel Rapid Storage Technology? I've tried just about every option available in the bios but have been unable to get any popular distro to see the 500gb or the 32gb drive. Everything else appears to work off a live dvd. Win8 seems to only show the 500gb drive

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2013-10-29 Thread Richard Pieri
Eric Chadbourne wrote: Everything else appears to work off a live dvd. Win8 seems to only show the 500gb drive and uses the 32gb silently. Since Win8 is That's Smart Response (SRT), Intel's consumer grade SSD cache system built on top of Rapid Storage (the RAID system). You can't use it

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2013-10-29 Thread Eric Chadbourne
Good to know. I've got a couple of hours set aside tomorrow to do this. Thanks! On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Richard Pieri richard.pi...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Chadbourne wrote: Everything else appears to work off a live dvd. Win8 seems to only show the 500gb drive and uses the 32gb

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2013-10-29 Thread barry goldman
Oct 2013 13:27:02 -0400 From: Eric Chadbourne eric.chadbou...@gmail.com To: BLU discuss@blu.org Subject: Re: [Discuss] UEFI Message-ID:     CAPE9nA5krC0yPw=P8bEtpcNQHRqFsqXW_GRWJsHXxw=bkw5...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Anybody have to deal with UEFI and Intel Rapid

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2013-10-28 Thread Matthew Gillen
For the sake of bringing up another topic, I want to thank people for the info on UEFI last week. I decided that being long in the tooth isn't the same as 'broken', and I should put it off a bit longer. What I really want is high-end fanless video cards, and the best options in that very limited

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2013-10-24 Thread John Abreau
Everything you list there (other than etc., etc., etc) is under either /etc or /var/named. Backup both of those as well, and you've got all your config data. I generally also run rpm -qa ~/ALL-INSTALLED-RPMS before installing the newest Fedora or CentOS, so I retain a record of what packages had

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2013-10-24 Thread Derek Martin
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 06:42:15AM -0400, John Abreau wrote: On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Bill Bogstad bogs...@pobox.com wrote: But I would still lose my DHCP, internal DNS, NFS, NTP, multiple user account passwords, printer configs, crontabs, etc., etc., etc.; if I did this. Even

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2013-10-24 Thread John Abreau
Blindly upgrading a server as-is, without knowing what's running on it, is a recipe for disaster. Such a system suffers a serious entropy risk, and ultimately becomes unmaintainable. Eventually it will suffer a disaster that will be unrecoverable. I don't use the /etc backups directly, but

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2013-10-24 Thread Richard Pieri
Derek Martin wrote: Welll, sort of. If you're upgrading your system, many of these files will likely contain config which is obsoleted by your new versions, or even may configure components which have been replaced entirely by something newer. And bear in mind: this isn't an upgrade. This is

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2013-10-23 Thread Richard Pieri
Matthew Gillen wrote: I do intend to dual boot fedora/windows 7 (I have no intention of ever going to 8). Is there any advantage to leaving UEFI enabled? Short answer: no. Long answer: UEFI is the system firmware. It replaces the legacy PC BIOS. You can't disable it. UEFI boot is the

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2013-10-23 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:37 AM, Matthew Gillen m...@mattgillen.net wrote: I haven't built my own computer in so long I haven't kept up on stuff like this. Has anyone tried to take an existing linux system (non-UEFI) and move it over to new hardware (specifically, UEFI-enabled)? I've done

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2013-10-23 Thread Gregory Boyce
Apparently I dropped the list on my response. On Oct 23, 2013 6:10 AM, Gregory Boyce gbo...@badbelly.com wrote: UEFI requires a GPT partition table rather than msdos, so migrating an existing OS installation may not work so well. GPT means requiring grub2 as well. On Oct 23, 2013 1:37 AM,

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2013-10-23 Thread Richard Pieri
Gregory Boyce wrote: UEFI requires a GPT partition table rather than msdos, so migrating an existing OS installation may not work so well. GPT means requiring grub2 as well. GPT can encapsulate a MBR partition table. It is possible to convert a MBR disk to GPT and with some work it may be

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2013-10-23 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Richard Pieri richard.pi...@gmail.com wrote: Protip: put /home, /opt and /usr/local on dedicated partitions or volumes so that you can reformat /, /boot, etc., without erasing user data and custom software installs. But I would still lose my DHCP, internal

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2013-10-23 Thread Richard Pieri
Bill Bogstad wrote: But I would still lose my DHCP, internal DNS, NFS, NTP, multiple user account passwords, printer configs, crontabs, etc., etc., etc.; if I did this. Even though I only have a few machines, I don't run them as if they were single-user Internet browsing machines. Yep. I've

[Discuss] UEFI

2013-10-22 Thread Matthew Gillen
I realized that my home computers are getting a little long in the tooth, and I'm looking to build a new one (or two). A lot of new motherboards come with UEFI BIOSes. Does this mean anything to me in terms of linux? I'm pretty sure I can put it in 'legacy mode' to disable whatever protection

Re: [Discuss] UEFI secure boot pre-loader security considered further Re: Fwd: [linux_forensics] Did you see this ? - Linux Foundation Announces Secure Boot Solution ....

2012-11-05 Thread Tom Metro
Rich Pieri wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: The bottom line here is that UEFI will prevent some Linux users from installing Linux, especially in the near future. No, it will not. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either lying or has bought into the anti-Microsoft propaganda. There is no truth

Re: [Discuss] UEFI secure boot pre-loader security considered further Re: Fwd: [linux_forensics] Did you see this ? - Linux Foundation Announces Secure Boot Solution ....

2012-11-05 Thread Rich Pieri
On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:00:56 -0400 Tom Metro tmetro+...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't seen any recent articles that have made this claim. What I The Linux Foundation article that sparked this thread repeatedly made precisely this claim. have seen expressed is a concern that non-technical users

Re: [Discuss] UEFI secure boot pre-loader security considered further Re: Fwd: [linux_forensics] Did you see this ? - Linux Foundation Announces Secure Boot Solution ....

2012-11-02 Thread Jerry Feldman
The bottom line here is that UEFI will prevent some Linux users from installing Linux, especially in the near future. I suspect that all major distros will be able to install on a UEFI system with very little user interaction. However, we also need to gain some knowledge so that when we do

Re: [Discuss] UEFI secure boot pre-loader security considered further Re: Fwd: [linux_forensics] Did you see this ? - Linux Foundation Announces Secure Boot Solution ....

2012-11-02 Thread Rich Pieri
On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 10:17:21 -0400 Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org wrote: The bottom line here is that UEFI will prevent some Linux users from installing Linux, especially in the near future. I suspect that all No, it will not. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either lying or has bought into the

[Discuss] UEFI-based rootkits

2012-09-24 Thread Rich Pieri
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/09/19/win8_rootkit/ Starting with Windows Vista, 64-bit versions of Windows require all kernel mode drivers be signed with a certificate obtained from Microsoft. This proof of concept UEFI rootkit replaces the Windows 8 boot loader with a version that does not

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2012-06-18 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Jack Coats So how long till this boot loader will have an 'open crack' available? The 'harder' the security, the bigger the target. If nothing else, I am guessing someone will

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2012-06-18 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/18/2012 08:50 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Jack Coats So how long till this boot loader will have an 'open crack' available? The 'harder' the security, the bigger the

Re: [Discuss] UEFI

2012-06-18 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Edward Ned Harvey b...@nedharvey.com wrote: From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Jack Coats So how long till this boot loader will have an 'open crack' available? The 'harder' the

[Discuss] UEFI

2012-06-17 Thread Jack Coats
So how long till this boot loader will have an 'open crack' available? The 'harder' the security, the bigger the target. If nothing else, I am guessing someone will do a 'Fedora loader', load a minimal Fedora that can boot something else from within using Fedora's 'legal' key. ... Jack