Re: [Discuss] iGuardian "enterprise-grade" home router

2014-09-30 Thread Richard Pieri
On 9/30/2014 8:28 PM, Tom Metro wrote: Richard Pieri wrote: Ubiquiti's...OS is proprietary... It's a Debian fork, 2-steps removed. (Fork of a fork.) I could have sworn I saw Ubiquiti's literature use the word "proprietary" in there somewhere. Yep, it's in the packet acceleration chunk.

Re: [Discuss] iGuardian "enterprise-grade" home router

2014-09-30 Thread Tom Metro
Richard Pieri wrote: > Ubiquiti's...OS is proprietary... It's a Debian fork, 2-steps removed. (Fork of a fork.) Similarly iGuardian is packaging OpenWRT, which may or may not qualify as a fork. It might in the sense that they probably bundle binary blobs to support their hardware, which you are s

Re: [Discuss] iGuardian "enterprise-grade" home router

2014-09-30 Thread Richard Pieri
On 9/30/2014 6:39 PM, Tom Metro wrote: Both are open platforms so you could configure either to have or not have DPI. Not entirely true. Ubiquiti's hardware is pretty open but their OS is proprietary and I have no idea how stable it would be after coercing it to do something unsupported. --

Re: [Discuss] iGuardian "enterprise-grade" home router

2014-09-30 Thread Tom Metro
Richard Pieri wrote: > ER Lite does not do DPI... > iGuardian will run out of RAM for active connections sooner than ER Lite. Agreed, but the thought experiment was how would the iGuardian compare to the ER Lite if you ran SNORT on the latter. Both are open platforms so you could configure either

Re: [Discuss] iGuardian "enterprise-grade" home router

2014-09-30 Thread Dan Ritter
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 05:36:26AM -0400, Tom Metro wrote: > If they can deliver a 2-core, 1 GHz CPU w/1 GB RAM appliance for $150, > that'll be a good deal. They say in their FAQ, "Hobbyists and hackers > wishing to modify the iGuardian software to use the hardware platform > for other purposes ar

Re: [Discuss] iGuardian "enterprise-grade" home router

2014-09-30 Thread Richard Pieri
On 9/30/2014 5:36 AM, Tom Metro wrote: The EdgeRouter Lite (the $100 model) only has 512 MB RAM. (Powered by a "Dual-Core 500 MHz, MIPS64 with Hardware Acceleration for Packet Processing.") And as you noted, ER Lite does not do DPI which means it has more RAM available to handle active connect

Re: [Discuss] iGuardian "enterprise-grade" home router

2014-09-30 Thread Tom Metro
Richard Pieri wrote: > The prototype is 512M and the target spec is 1GB. According to the Ubiquiti data sheet: http://www.ubnt.com/downloads/datasheets/edgemax/EdgeRouter_DS.pdf The EdgeRouter Lite (the $100 model) only has 512 MB RAM. (Powered by a "Dual-Core 500 MHz, MIPS64 with Hardware Accele

Re: [Discuss] iGuardian "enterprise-grade" home router

2014-09-29 Thread Richard Pieri
On 9/29/2014 10:24 PM, Tom Metro wrote: Were you able to find a RAM spec for the iGuardian? Their site seemed pretty light on details. It's on their Kickstarter. The prototype is 512M and the target spec is 1GB. -- Rich P. ___ Discuss mailing list Di

Re: [Discuss] iGuardian "enterprise-grade" home router

2014-09-29 Thread Tom Metro
Richard Pieri wrote: > On paper, based on RAM capacity, I figure the iGuardian box will run out > of memory and crash much sooner than the Edgemax device. Were you able to find a RAM spec for the iGuardian? Their site seemed pretty light on details. If I recall correctly, the Ubiquity products al

Re: [Discuss] iGuardian "enterprise-grade" home router

2014-09-29 Thread Richard Pieri
On 9/29/2014 5:14 PM, Tom Metro wrote: SNORT. I'd be curious to know how a competing device like the Ubiquiti Edgemax handles running SNORT. On paper, based on RAM capacity, I figure the iGuardian box will run out of memory and crash much sooner than the Edgemax device. And if you don't think

Re: [Discuss] iGuardian "enterprise-grade" home router

2014-09-29 Thread Tom Metro
Tom Metro wrote: > The same episode also covers the iGuardian Kickstarter project that aims > to produce a $150 enterprise-grade home router that includes deep packet > inspection and regular updates: > http://www.itusnetworks.com/home The host of "This Week in Enterprise Tech" seems to be pushing

Re: [Discuss] iGuardian "enterprise-grade" home router

2014-09-13 Thread Richard Pieri
On 9/13/2014 4:46 PM, Tom Metro wrote: > OpenWRT supports optware package management, for example. You should be > able to update packages on the fly, without a device reboot. (I've > installed packages this way on my routers running Tomato USB.) Try doing that with the kernel. Last I looked, Toma

Re: [Discuss] iGuardian "enterprise-grade" home router

2014-09-13 Thread Tom Metro
Richard Pieri wrote: > How do you go about updating the OS? > > With an embedded OS you back up your settings, restart the device in a > special run mode, write out an image to local storage, restart in the > normal run mode, and restore your settings. Some update mechanisms > perform the settings

Re: [Discuss] iGuardian "enterprise-grade" home router

2014-09-12 Thread Richard Pieri
On 9/12/2014 6:44 PM, Tom Metro wrote: > You'll have to clarify what "embedded" means to you, and how that would > differ from pfSense running on appliance hardware. How do you go about updating the OS? With an embedded OS you back up your settings, restart the device in a special run mode, write

Re: [Discuss] iGuardian "enterprise-grade" home router

2014-09-12 Thread Tom Metro
Richard Pieri wrote: > Comparing his $150 box to a Juniper IPS that costs ten times as much (or > more) is disingenuous. I just want to clarify (for other BLU readers) that the "his" above doesn't refer to Dan Geer. His interview and the iGuardian product are unconnected, and only were mentioned i