Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-12 Thread Eric Hoch
Hi Todd, Scott, Am Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:48:23 -0400 schrieb todd rme: On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2010-10-09 16:50, Scott Furry a écrit : On 09/10/10 02:11 PM, Marc Paré wrote: snip I agree, direction from the whole community on this, now that we

Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?

2010-10-12 Thread kaaposc
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 8:09 PM, jonathon jonathon.bl...@gmail.com wrote: skipped Note # 4: The copyright list states who the copyright holder was, when it was published, not who the current copyright holder is; Wrong. Copyright notice reflects a name of copyright holder and year when code was

Re: [tdf-discuss] I like the name LibreOffice

2010-10-12 Thread Paul A Norman
Jon, I really agree with you. Its not about how the 'name' works for any of us, but for potential users. As bad as it may sound, we need to think as if we were actually relying on marketing it as a paid product (which I am not advocating) but still need to think about market reactions as

Re: [tdf-discuss] Windows Install

2010-10-12 Thread Fridrich Strba
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Please, don't enter into political consideration of something that was just a bug. It was me that screwed it up and during the pre-announcement phase sprint, I forgot to regenerate the product IDs and thus LO had the product IDs of OOo. This is fixed

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-12 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-12 02:32, Eric Hoch a écrit : Hi Todd, Scott, Am Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:48:23 -0400 schrieb todd rme: There is another, somewhat independent issue that has occurred to me. What about how the components are split up? The issues are somewhat different for windows and mac than they are

Re: [tdf-discuss] I like the name LibreOffice

2010-10-12 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-12 07:54, Charles Marcus a écrit : On 2010-10-12 5:36 AM, Marc Paré wrote: My personal opinion is that Libre is more representative of the understanding behind the LibreOffice philosophy, but that OpenOffice at this point does have the marketing advantage of the brand. As I said, I

Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?

2010-10-12 Thread Andras Timar
Hi All, Today I worked on the versioninfo sections of LibO Windows executables. See: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30798 Please let me know when you reach consensus upon what to use as CompanyName and LegalCopyright. For those who don't know, these appear in the file properties

Re: [tdf-discuss] Survey|Opinion - LibreOffice Install and Update

2010-10-12 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-09 5:23 PM, Scott Furry wrote: How do you expect LibreOffice to be updated? I'll treat all questions as if you had asked not what I 'expect', but what I would *like* to see... Mac and Windows should have auto-updaters, Linux should have an auto-updater available only when installed

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-12 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-10 12:48 AM, todd rme wrote: There is another, somewhat independent issue that has occurred to me. What about how the components are split up? The issues are somewhat different for windows and mac than they are for linux. The bottom line reality is, they are not split up now, and

Re: [tdf-discuss] Important Information in Wrong Place

2010-10-12 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-12 09:43, Harold Fuchs a écrit : Currently the only list of e-mail lists (including discuss@ and users@) is on the Contribute page http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/linked to from the Home page http://www.documentfoundation.org/. IMHO this is at least counterintuitive.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Important Information in Wrong Place

2010-10-12 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-12 10:26, Per Eriksson a écrit : We do now have a dedicated mailing list for website issues. It is quite new, and all website related talks currently take place there. Thanks a lot, and welcome :-) Best Per Thanks Per Marc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Windows Install

2010-10-12 Thread NoOp
On 10/12/2010 01:30 AM, Fridrich Strba wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Please, don't enter into political consideration of something that was just a bug. It was me that screwed it up and during the pre-announcement phase sprint, I forgot to regenerate the product IDs

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-12 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-12 1:14 PM, todd rme wrote: In a sense, they are split up. In Linux most distributions seem to split them up, at least all the ones I have used do, and in windows it is possible to only install the components you want. I have never tried it on Mac so I don't know for certain. The

Re: [tdf-discuss] I like the name LibreOffice

2010-10-12 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Stefan, 2010/10/12 Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org Hi Jon, Jon Hamkins schrieb: To explain what LibreOffice means, first I have to explain what libre means, because it isn't an English word. Well, LibreOffice isn´t an English product. It´s made by an international

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-12 Thread todd rme
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Eric Hoch eric_openoff...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Todd, Am Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:14:49 -0400 schrieb todd rme: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote: On 2010-10-10 12:48 AM, todd rme wrote: There is another, somewhat

Re: [tdf-discuss] I like the name LibreOffice

2010-10-12 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Mirek, *, Mirek M. schrieb: Well, I'm a Czech and my native language is Czech. The problem I have with LibreOffice is that it's just hard to pronounce. I'm not very good at saying the French r, so I try to say LibreOffice with an English accent, which doesn't sound very good either.

[tdf-discuss] Re: LibO roadmap?

2010-10-12 Thread Mounier Jacques
Hello, Paul A Norman wrote: For example, bibliographies in LaTeX can be built using JabRef - a Java application that can export/import to/from an MySql database. http://jabref.sourceforge.net/ JabRef handles the citations' entries - all the information. Over the weekend I'll

Re: [tdf-discuss] I like the name LibreOffice

2010-10-12 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Friedrich! Am Dienstag, den 12.10.2010, 23:01 +0200 schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier: Finally there will be several flavors of pronunciation - and good moments if they meat each other! :o)) I hope this was just a typo ;-))) Cheers, Christoph -- To unsubscribe, e-mail

[tdf-discuss] [GENERAL]International image

2010-10-12 Thread RGB ES
This is border line with marketing, but it is more of a general concept so I'll write it here instead of on the marketing mailing list so it can be discussed by more people. One of the strengths of LibO is (will be... as it was/is for OOo) its internationalization. But this strength comes not

[tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-marketing] Can Openoffice.org rival Microsoft with Libre Office?

2010-10-12 Thread goldfish
Hi Guys, You may find this article interesting: Can Openoffice.org rival Microsoft with Libre Office? http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2010/10/12/243295/Can-Openoffice.org-rival-Microsoft-with-Libre-Office.htm Regards, Paul Five ways Libre Office can improve to challenge Microsoft

Re: [tdf-discuss] I like the name LibreOffice

2010-10-12 Thread Paul A Norman
It would be nice to have something that works really well in International English, and that sounded good to Asians as well. Chinese friends inform me that they sometimes have troubole with words/part words that end in R My Indian friends for the most part would have no trouble saying the name

Re: [tdf-discuss] Important Information in Wrong Place

2010-10-12 Thread Paul A Norman
This sort of thing is what I was trying to get at in the thread Forums, Wikis, mailing lists two days ago. Paul On 13 October 2010 03:42, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote: On 2010-10-12 9:43 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote: Currently the only list of e-mail lists (including discuss@ and

Re: [tdf-discuss] Important Information in Wrong Place

2010-10-12 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-13 00:49, Paul A Norman a écrit : This sort of thing is what I was trying to get at in the thread Forums, Wikis, mailing lists two days ago. Paul On 13 October 2010 03:42, Charles Marcuscmar...@media-brokers.com wrote: On 2010-10-12 9:43 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote: Currently the only