Re: [tdf-discuss] Compiling in Windows

2010-10-31 Thread Simon Brouwer
Op 29-10-2010 16:22, plino schreef: I'm not a programmer but something is puzzling me: why is LibreOffice compiled with MS VC++ compiler? Only LibreOffice for Windows is. The reason is probably that it is the best compiler to produce programs for Windows with. This forces the installer to

[tdf-discuss] Re: Compiling in Windows

2010-10-31 Thread plino
In the spirit of Open Source it doesn't make any sense that a closed source compiler is used. This means that the script available to compile the Windows version, requires you to either use the limited free version from Microsoft or to buy a the full version from them... Currently MinGW-W64 is

Re: [tdf-discuss] Copyright Assignments the Document Foundation

2010-10-31 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Andrea, Le Sat, 30 Oct 2010 17:10:07 +0200, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@openoffice.org a écrit : Charles-H. Schulz wrote: We initially agreed not to request the assignment of copyright for code contributions, and we can only witness that it's been so far the right decision: Many

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO document format: strict ODF or extended ODF?

2010-10-31 Thread André Schnabel
Hi, Am 31.10.2010 11:40, schrieb Gianluca Turconi: my question is rather simple: will LibO use in the future versions (post 3.3) a ODF strict format or an extended one? We are going to do the same as OOo did. Default would be ODF 1.2 extendend (to allow e.g. comments in Impress, additional

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO document format: strict ODF or extended ODF?

2010-10-31 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Ciao Gianluca, I think your question would be better asked to the developers' mailing list, but I will nonetheless try to answer it here: - there is no extended ODF version, unless of course you refer to the extended ODF format used in OpenOffice.org. This specific version had been enabled

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Compiling in Windows

2010-10-31 Thread Simon Brouwer
Op 31-10-2010 12:09, plino schreef: In the spirit of Open Source it doesn't make any sense that a closed source compiler is used. Not any less sense than that a closed source OS is needed to run the program... This means that the script available to compile the Windows version, requires you

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO document format: strict ODF or extended ODF?

2010-10-31 Thread Gianluca Turconi
Thanks to you and André for your replies. See below for further comments. Il 31/10/2010 12.52, Charles-H. Schulz ha scritto: [...] I think your question would be better asked to the developers' mailing list, but I will nonetheless try to answer it here: - there is no extended ODF version,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Compiling in Windows

2010-10-31 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *, On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 4:22 PM, plino pedl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not a programmer but something is puzzling me: why is LibreOffice compiled with MS VC++ compiler? This forces the installer to include the VC++ runtimes... Wouldn't it make more sense to use the FOSS compiler MinGW?

[tdf-discuss] Re: Compiling in Windows

2010-10-31 Thread plino
@Simon, so therefore I should not use Open Source programs because I'm using a closed source OS? Don't you see how absurd it is to need to BUY a compiler to compile a FREE program? Then what is the point if the source is open and I can modify it but can't compile it because I can't afford the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Compiling in Windows

2010-10-31 Thread Simon Brouwer
Op 31-10-2010 15:20, plino schreef: @Simon, so therefore I should not use Open Source programs because I'm using a closed source OS? When did I ever suggest such a thing? Don't you see how absurd it is to need to BUY a compiler to compile a FREE program? If that were the case, I might, but it

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO document format: strict ODF or extended ODF?

2010-10-31 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Gianluca, Le Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:08:37 +0100, Gianluca Turconi m...@letturefantastiche.com a écrit : Thanks to you and André for your replies. See below for further comments. Il 31/10/2010 12.52, Charles-H. Schulz ha scritto: [...] I think your question would be better asked to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Non-removable extensions

2010-10-31 Thread Luis E Vásquez r
Medellin, October 31 2010 Hi, guys +1 I`s unacceptable, must be set available. Cordialmente, Luis E. Vásquez R. OpenOffice.org Volunteer Support Este mensaje se ha enviado desde Medellín, Colombia *10 Años usando exitosamente OpenOffice.org libre, seguro y abierto* 2010/10/31 Erich

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Compiling in Windows

2010-10-31 Thread Jesús Corrius
Which is free (as in beer) for as long as Microsoft wishes. Plus it is no longer updated and creating a script for VC 2010 requires changes. Finally, the free VC version does not create x64 builds which I hope LO starts producing since most (all?) modern CPUs are 64bit... Last week I made the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Non-removable extensions

2010-10-31 Thread fyva
30.10.2010 19:44, Andy Brown пишет: Who had the bright idea to require the non-removable extensions in LibreOffice? This, IMO, is totally uncalled for. This is a great way to lose users. Andy They are removable by administrator -on Linux they can be removed through the package manager? and

Re: [tdf-discuss] Non-removable extensions

2010-10-31 Thread Andy Brown
On Sun Oct 31 2010 09:51:03 GMT-0700 (PDT) fyva wrote: 30.10.2010 19:44, Andy Brown пишет: Who had the bright idea to require the non-removable extensions in LibreOffice? This, IMO, is totally uncalled for. This is a great way to lose users. Andy They are removable by administrator -on

Re: [tdf-discuss] Non-removable extensions

2010-10-31 Thread Luis E Vásquez r
Medellin, October 2010 I think this option should be restored to the previous via managed by the Extension Manager. Not only is the simplest but also the fastest way to do it. My question now is: There will be similar changes in other areas of Libre Office? Cordialmente, Luis E. Vásquez R.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Non-removable extensions

2010-10-31 Thread fyva
31.10.2010 13:15, Andy Brown пишет: On Sun Oct 31 2010 09:51:03 GMT-0700 (PDT) fyva wrote: 30.10.2010 19:44, Andy Brown пишет: Who had the bright idea to require the non-removable extensions in LibreOffice? This, IMO, is totally uncalled for. This is a great way to lose users. Andy They

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Compiling in Windows

2010-10-31 Thread Robert Derman
plino wrote: All the developers agree that we should use open source compilers, and this will happen. But it's not ready for production yet, so probably the next few versions for Windows will still be using the Microsoft compilers. It depends on how many people volunteer to work on that.

[tdf-discuss] Re: Compiling in Windows

2010-10-31 Thread plino
Actually the trackers did work. Technically. But the people managing it didn't. One of the bugs I reported (which is now obsolete, but still there) caused that a user would loose data without being warned. The bug was raised from the usual P3 level to P2 (meaning it would have to be fixed before

Re: [tdf-discuss] Non-removable extensions

2010-10-31 Thread fyva
See this: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=113374 -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are

Re: [tdf-discuss] Non-removable extensions

2010-10-31 Thread fyva
31.10.2010 13:29, Luis E Vásquez r пишет: Medellin, October 2010 I think this option should be restored to the previous via managed by the Extension Manager. Not only is the simplest but also the fastest way to do it. My question now is: There will be similar changes in other areas of Libre

Re: [tdf-discuss] [UI] Splash screen

2010-10-31 Thread Mirek M.
2010/10/30 David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz Hi, :-) On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 06:52, Christoph Noack christoph.no...@documentfoundation.org wrote: So I wonder whether there is some interest to form some kind of interest group or even a dedicated UX team. At least, there might be better

Re: [tdf-discuss] [UI] Splash screen

2010-10-31 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Christoph, 2010/10/30 Christoph Noack christoph.no...@documentfoundation.org Hi Ivan, Mirek, all! I really would like to overcome my previous telegram style messages and to focus on topics like that I'm very much interested in. Sadly, time is still very limited, so (a bit late) a big

[tdf-discuss] Re: Non-removable extensions

2010-10-31 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-31 16:19, Mirek M. a écrit : 2010/10/31 Andy Browna...@the-martin-byrd.net On Sun Oct 31 2010 09:51:03 GMT-0700 (PDT) fyva wrote: 30.10.2010 19:44, Andy Brown пишет: Who had the bright idea to require the non-removable extensions in LibreOffice? This, IMO, is totally uncalled

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Non-removable extensions

2010-10-31 Thread fyva
31.10.2010 18:32, Erich Christian пишет: They are not listed in the 'change' dialogue, there is a topic called extensions (de: Erweiterungen) which got an X by default. Set on true the installer 'copies new files' but the number of extensions doesn't change and the next time you call setup it is