Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-21 Thread Robert Derman
Andy Brown wrote: Robert Derman wrote: Andrea Pescetti wrote: e-letter wrote: It is difficult to understand why a business would waste time trying to use LO; if a customer uses m$, the supplier might as well do so also and consider the m$ price as a cost of conducting

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-21 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 20/07/2011 22:34, Andrea Pescetti wrote: But, in almost all cases I've seen, the reasons were different, like getting rid of dependency on a specific vendor, I would also guess that one of the other main reasons would be to avoid the antics of the Business Software Alliance and it's

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-21 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 20/07/2011 23:54, Robert Derman wrote: If you want to know about one very good reason for not using M$ Google Ball Guitar String Co. Excellent article. Thanks for that... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems?

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-21 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 21/07/2011 01:33, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: On 07/20/2011 05:02 PM, e-letter wrote: On the users mailing list, a significant proportion of a random view of questions seems to be with relation to using LO is some way with m$ document formats. What should be the priority of LO

[tdf-discuss] disclaimer for extension website

2011-07-21 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, I'd like to quote my colleague Thorsten Behrens on this: == With the upcoming extension website, we'll need some kind of click-through license agreement, for someone submitting software, and a disclaimer on the front page, refusing liability on third-party-provided software that we host.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Post a bug also on download page (easier to use)

2011-07-21 Thread Carlo Strata
Hi Charles and Richard, I have already post this suggest on the website mailing list, but with a longer and less communicative object that is: [libreoffice-website] Just an hint to spread the ideas in normal users that they can post a bug and that they can easily do it and is also on

Re: [tdf-discuss] Post a bug also on download page (easier to use)

2011-07-21 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Carlo Strata schrieb: in Italian Libre lists we have discussed the hypothesis to add a quick couple of links (how to post a bug and post a bug) Hi, please also see Bug 35855 - Usability: Add menu item with link to Bug tracking system https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35855 as an

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-21 Thread e-letter
On 21/07/2011, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: I might also conclude that there is NO reason to support any other file format either. I mean, really, why should I support a non-ODF format? PDF generation? Remove it! Any other office file format? Remove it! Why single out

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-21 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 07/21/2011 08:47 AM, e-letter wrote: On 21/07/2011, Andrew Douglas Pitonyakand...@pitonyak.org wrote I am more comfortable in OOo than I am in MSO, so, I have created many MSO deliverables in OOo and LO. The only time that I make an exception is when I believe that I am not able to

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-21 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 21/07/2011 14:23, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: I am of the opinion that good inter-operability with MSO products makes it easier to attract new users and that poor inter-operability with MSO products makes it more difficult. Interestingly, I've just received an MSO .doc document. I

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-21 Thread Timothy Mark Brennan Jr.
Since there is still a lot of prejudice out there against open source software based on FUD and plain old not wanting to leave the comfort zone, ease of interoperability with M$ document formats will be necessary. In fact I view it as a way of showing a superior attitude. Interoperability is

RE: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Yes, don't confuse ODF compatibility with OpenOffice.org (or LibreOffice) compatibility. I was in the room on one occasion when Microsoft was asking for advice on their approach to ODF 1.1 Spreadsheet documents. Unfortunately, none of us blinked about how this would work for users who are