Re: Embedding Goodies in the ODF Package (was RE: [tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard ... )

2011-06-28 Thread aqualung
Thank you to Messrs. Hamilton and Phipps for their exposition of the challenges of embedding fonts in ODF files, haven't seen it explained that clearly before. -- View this message in context:

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-17 Thread aqualung
See, I learned about this forum (it isn't really a forum, it's something concocted out of mailing lists to sort of resemble a real forum) by accident one month ago, from a http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/03/17/flattr-us/ blog comment by Florian Effenberger . My suggestion to advertise the

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-17 Thread aqualung
Charles-H. Schulz wrote: But there are existing LibreOffice and OpenOffice forums. I still don't get the point. Why aren't the users of LibreOffice being told about them? www.libreoffice.org/get-help/ is the Help page. Let's see what it says: For user support, we have: * Mailing

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-17 Thread aqualung
Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: snip What did You *act* to get it there? etc. Friedrich, see my earlier postings (with references / links to earlier commentary). Anyway, I'm glad that people are responding. I guess it proves the adage, the squeaky wheel gets the grease Tell you what,

[tdf-discuss] Re: How are Libre Office bugs classified and fixed?

2011-04-14 Thread aqualung
Would be interesting if there were a metric that tells Total number of bugs Aged bugs (= 6 months, 1 year, 2 years, 5 years) By priority By status By votes By difficulty to fix A chart showing proportion of fixed bugs to total bugs at selected points in time etc. -- View this message in

[tdf-discuss] Re: European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.

2011-04-09 Thread aqualung
toki wrote: Or do you seriously think that somebody should put up with a mean time of 100 seconds to BSOD, in addition to its other known points of failure, instead of using tools that work as advertised, and is compatible with tools on other platforms? jonathon Obviously, your

[tdf-discuss] Re: European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.

2011-04-07 Thread aqualung
Mark Preston wrote: There may be some truth to what you say, but I don't think Microsoft bashing will advance LibO, which is what we want to do. Mark, you confirm my suspicions: open-source folks don't really want Microsoft to stop their outrageous proprietary file-format lock-in, because

[tdf-discuss] Re: European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.

2011-04-07 Thread aqualung
A follow up-thought: As I google my way through history catching up on developments, I come across http://news.cnet.com/OpenDocument-goes-to-vote-in-Texas,-Minnesota/2100-7344_3-6157245.html this page reporting on ODF file format being made mandatory (to the exclusion of proprietary Microsoft

[tdf-discuss] Re: what comes first, ODF or OOo/LibO, was: : European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.

2011-04-07 Thread aqualung
M. Fioretti wrote: Ooo/LibO are a means to use OpenDocument, not the reverse (1). And those who should sue are citizens and governments, not the open source community. (1) see OpenDocument first. Always at

[tdf-discuss] Re: European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.

2011-04-06 Thread aqualung
Ian Lynch wrote: On 6 April 2011 04:41, aqualung lt;xfekdcugj...@mailinator.comgt; wrote: Well, how many full-time developers, working 40-hour workweeks, does Microsoft Office have... and how many OOo and LibO? If the answer for MO is, say, 300... and the full-time equivalent for OOo

[tdf-discuss] Re: European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.

2011-04-06 Thread aqualung
Mark Preston wrote: That really is not something we can do much about without hiring Microsoft to make sure they are fixed - and that simply will not happen, even if we wanted it to. Okay... while waiting for my two comments from earlier today to be approved by the mailing list, I thought

[tdf-discuss] Re: European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.

2011-04-05 Thread aqualung
Well, how many full-time developers, working 40-hour workweeks, does Microsoft Office have... and how many OOo and LibO? If the answer for MO is, say, 300... and the full-time equivalent for OOo / LibO is 50... then it's pretty much a given that MO will always have a bigger feature set and be

[tdf-discuss] Re: Get and appove: recommended Soundfile pronouncing LibreOffice

2011-03-30 Thread aqualung
If all that recently collected donation money is burning a hole in your pocket, you could have maybe half a dozen professionally produced Flash videos, each one showing a good-looking, smiling LO user from every continent, saying Welcome to LibreOffice! in their language and with their preferred

[tdf-discuss] Re: How to pronounce the name (again, sorry)

2011-03-29 Thread aqualung
Obviously, all francophone users will pronounce LibreOffice one way... according to the pronunciation conventions of their language. The rest of the world, unless they have been exposed to French by learning it as a second language, will have no idea. Before a recommended pronunciation is posted

Re: RE : [tdf-discuss] Re: Feature request - embed font

2011-03-23 Thread aqualung
A postscript: Free does not necessarily mean lower quality. Some beautiful free fonts that I have on my system include - Yanone Kaffeesatz - Lavoisier - Ubuntu - and of course the terrific Linux Libertine G and Linux Biolinum G There are free fonts for all sorts of special needs, for example the

Re: RE : [tdf-discuss] Re: Feature request - embed font

2011-03-23 Thread aqualung
P.P.S.: And of course, even when both the sender and the recipient have the same font installed on their system, there still is no iron-clad guarantee that both will see the exact same thing on their computer screen, due to the variety of display schemes (ClearType sub-pixel rendering etc.) in

Re: RE : [tdf-discuss] Re: Feature request - embed font

2011-03-22 Thread aqualung
Italo Vignoli wrote: I was working as a consultant for Adobe at that time, and I have been the PDF spokeperson for Europe for several years. It is true that many years have gone by, but fonts are handled by operating systems in the same way. If they are not installed in their specific

Re: RE : [tdf-discuss] Re: Feature request - embed font

2011-03-21 Thread aqualung
O.K., so is everyone now in agreement that there is no legal problem embedding a font that explicitly licenses itself to be embedded? I am new here and am a bit mystified at the way discussion seems to move, with inapposite answers to comments and then the point gets lost along the way. This

Re: RE : [tdf-discuss] Re: Feature request - embed font

2011-03-20 Thread aqualung
Thank you for your reply but I do not understand. The OP was making a feature request for font embedding to be added to LibreOffice. I commented on the licensing aspect. Now you note something about a suite -- do you mean suite as in office suite? Microsoft's Office suite has this ability. PDF

Re: RE : [tdf-discuss] Re: Feature request - embed font

2011-03-20 Thread aqualung
Thank you, that is very clear. I am still not understanding Charles' comment. Steve Edmonds wrote: Hi. sorry, this is probably my imprecise english. By suite I meant the LO suite (group) of products, were font embedding in files to be extended to more than writer. Otherwise, if font