On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Florian Effenberger
wrote:
> I guess a slight risk that needs to be taken care of exists in all
> constellations. In the worst (!) situation, Apache could die as foundation,
> so could TDF. For TDF, it is rather unlikely, as German foundations are
> built in a w
Hi,
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote on 2011-06-09 12.22:
In addition, such topics could be covered by a contract. I can imagine,
without speaking officially for the German association here, that there
would have been no problem in signing a contract that sets certain
limitations on what could be do
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Florian Effenberger
wrote:
> Hi,
> Robert Burrell Donkin wrote on 2011-06-07 09.00:
>
>> (I'll try to avoid asking too many questions at once)
>
> Feel free, I try to reply to all of them, if they haven't been replied in
> the meantime by someone else. Hard time fo
Italo Vignoli wrote:
On 6/7/11 3:21 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
I agree... My "going over it" was simply to indicate areas which
I *think* (again, I have no idea, nor do a *want* to know) may
have been reasons Oracle declined, since that seems a point
that people are extremely curious about.
Pro
Hi,
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote on 2011-06-07 09.00:
(I'll try to avoid asking too many questions at once)
Feel free, I try to reply to all of them, if they haven't been replied
in the meantime by someone else. Hard time following all mail threads. :-)
1. What would constrain this legal e
On 6/7/11 3:21 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
I agree... My "going over it" was simply to indicate areas which
I *think* (again, I have no idea, nor do a *want* to know) may
have been reasons Oracle declined, since that seems a point
that people are extremely curious about.
Provided that they receiv
On Jun 7, 2011, at 8:50 AM, Italo Vignoli wrote:
>
> I do not think that going over our letter to Oracle with the intent of
> finding areas where it could have been improved does any good to the
> exhisting and future relationships.
>
I agree... My "going over it" was simply to indicate areas
On 6/7/11 1:50 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
Thx for the clarification... BTW, it also mentions
"integration with Oracle ERP and CRM stacks"
Did you really want (and expect) direct access to such incredibly
sensitive and important parts of Oracle's business structure?
How does that help the "
On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Jim Jagielski wrote on 2011-06-06 22.13:
>> Good to see the list... Not knowing things for sure, but I
>> would guess that Oracle had issues with #3, which gave away
>> (what I would expect to be) huge chunks of h/w infrastructure,
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote (07-06-11 09:00)
The TDF certainly seems confident. People (and corporations) are often
reluctant to accept claims from campaigning organisations without
public evidence. Hopefully, we might be able to work together to
establish clearly and in public where the TDF is
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Volker Merschmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 2011/6/6 Jim Jagielski :
>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Volker Merschmann wrote:
>>> 2011/6/6 Robert Burrell Donkin :
Until the TDF has taken that last step, expect to be challenged about
your readiness ;-)
Hi,
2011/6/6 Jim Jagielski :
> On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Volker Merschmann wrote:
>> 2011/6/6 Robert Burrell Donkin :
>>>
>>> Until the TDF has taken that last step, expect to be challenged about
>>> your readiness ;-)
>>>
>>> I'd like to take up your offer :-)
>>>
>>> But here on this list and
Hi,
Jim Jagielski wrote on 2011-06-06 22.13:
Good to see the list... Not knowing things for sure, but I
would guess that Oracle had issues with #3, which gave away
(what I would expect to be) huge chunks of h/w infrastructure,
esp to an entity which was still in the process (though close!)
of fi
On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Volker Merschmann wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> 2011/6/6 Robert Burrell Donkin :
>>
>> Until the TDF has taken that last step, expect to be challenged about
>> your readiness ;-)
>>
>> I'd like to take up your offer :-)
>>
>> But here on this list and on the understandin
Hi Robert,
2011/6/6 Robert Burrell Donkin :
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Florian Effenberger
> wrote:
>> Greg Stein wrote on 2011-06-05 20.39:
>
>
>
This might not affect other topics, but honestly, I think the perception
of
what already is in existence is not clear enough fo
(I've dropped the cross post to the Apache Incubator since I'd like to
pick up just the topic of readiness)
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Florian Effenberger
wrote:
> Greg Stein wrote on 2011-06-05 20.39:
>>> This might not affect other topics, but honestly, I think the perception
>>> of
>>>
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