[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-17 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 17/06/11 08:36, Marc-André Laverdière a écrit : > Is there _any_ database that people use that doesn't have a JDBC driver > at this point? > Maybe we can keep our lives simple by only enabling JDBC drivers? > Other than the fact that it would make LibreOffice even more dependent on Java techn

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-17 Thread Francois Tigeot
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:06:16PM +0530, Marc-André Laverdière wrote: > Is there _any_ database that people use that doesn't have a JDBC > driver at this point? > Maybe we can keep our lives simple by only enabling JDBC drivers? Make that ODBC and perhaps JDBC. Having LibreOffice depending on a J

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-16 Thread Marc-André Laverdière
Is there _any_ database that people use that doesn't have a JDBC driver at this point? Maybe we can keep our lives simple by only enabling JDBC drivers? Marc-André Laverdière Software Security Scientist Innovation Labs, Tata Consultancy Services Hyderabad, India On 06/12/2011 02:19 AM, Francois

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-14 Thread Francois Tigeot
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 09:02:25PM -0700, aqualung wrote: > > Francois Tigeot wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:54:46AM +0200, Francois Tigeot wrote: > > > >> > You would probably get more input if you posted your question on one of > >> > the OpenOffice.org forums, in the Base section.

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-14 Thread aqualung
Francois Tigeot wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:54:46AM +0200, Francois Tigeot wrote: > >> > You would probably get more input if you posted your question on one of >> > the OpenOffice.org forums, in the Base section. >> >> Thanks for the tip, I'll have a look there. > > I tried to creat

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-12 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 12/06/11 03:04, Uwe Altmann a écrit : Hi Uwe, > > Adabas was bundeled only with StarOffice (never with OOo) - it was one > of the "Add-Ons" Star Office had (besides more Gallery entries, > templates and better spell checking then OOo) in former times. "In > former times" refers to OOo 1.* wh

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Uwe Altmann
Hi Alex, * Am 11.06.11 11:28, schrieb Alexander Thurgood: > Agreed again. All platforms or nothing seems fair enough. I don't really > understand why it was never made available for Mac, guess the owners of > Adabas D never thought it was worthwhile. Adabas was bundeled only with StarOffice (nev

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Francois Tigeot
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 01:18:47PM -0700, NoOp wrote: > On 06/11/2011 12:42 PM, Francois Tigeot wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:47:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote: > > As far as I know, nobody has used Adabas D since 2004, and the stuff is > > proprietary crippleware at best. > > There are much bette

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread NoOp
On 06/11/2011 12:42 PM, Francois Tigeot wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:47:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote: >> >> I'd experimented with Adabas D with OpenOffice.org. Unfortunately, I >> can't test with LO due to not being able to use *any* data source: >> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Francois Tigeot
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:47:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote: > > I'd experimented with Adabas D with OpenOffice.org. Unfortunately, I > can't test with LO due to not being able to use *any* data source: > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32948 I'm sorry but if this is only for an experiment,

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread NoOp
On 06/11/2011 11:02 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:41:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote: >> On 06/11/2011 04:47 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: >> > >> > I think the picture is clear enough; I'll have a word on the developers >> > list >> > and try to disable the Adabas D driver. >> >>

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Francois Tigeot
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:41:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote: > On 06/11/2011 04:47 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: > > > > I think the picture is clear enough; I'll have a word on the developers list > > and try to disable the Adabas D driver. > > Please don't. > > $ cat /etc/adabasrc > DBROOT=/opt/adabas [

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread NoOp
On 06/11/2011 01:45 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: ... > > Where did you find your download copy ? Is it recent ? > I had a look at the official website here : > http://www.softwareag.com/Corporate/products/adabas/rela_3rd_prod/adad/default.asp > and there's no download link. > > The "Download free A

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread NoOp
On 06/11/2011 04:47 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: ... > > I think the picture is clear enough; I'll have a word on the developers list > and try to disable the Adabas D driver. > Please don't. $ cat /etc/adabasrc DBROOT=/opt/adabas DBCONFIG=${DBCONFIG:-${HOME}/.adabas} DBWORK=${DBWORK:-${HOME}/.ad

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Francois Tigeot
Hi Cor, On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:49:27AM +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: > > Alexander Thurgood wrote (11-06-11 09:40) > >and I wonder how many individual users > >would actually go to the trouble of installing it now on their personal > >computer ? > > Very very few, I guess ;-) > But imagine some de

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Francois Tigeot
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:54:46AM +0200, Francois Tigeot wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 09:44:35AM +0200, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > > > > You would probably get more input if you posted your question on one of > > the OpenOffice.org forums, in the Base section. > > Thanks for the tip, I'll h

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 11/06/11 10:54, Francois Tigeot a écrit : Hi François, > Oh, I'm really indifferent about it; what I'm concerned about is the hardcoded > list of platforms determining whether the client library is build or not. Agreed. > > I'd like to remove this list, and either build the adabas client li

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 11/06/11 10:49, Cor Nouws a écrit : Hi Cor, > > Very very few, I guess ;-) > But imagine some deployment have an old DB of that type running on a > server. Could well be, isn't it? > Well the company say that there is a JDBC driver available, so even if direct support was pulled from LibO,

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 11/06/11 10:45, Francois Tigeot a écrit : Hi François, > > Where did you find your download copy ? Is it recent ? > I had a look at the official website here : > http://www.softwareag.com/Corporate/products/adabas/rela_3rd_prod/adad/default.asp > and there's no download link. Yeah, you have

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Francois Tigeot
Hi Alex, On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 09:44:35AM +0200, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > Le 10/06/11 14:48, Francois Tigeot a écrit : > > > In the past, some versions of StarOffice were bundled with a limited > > freeware version of the Adabas database engine. > > > > The Adabas support is still present i

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Alex, Alexander Thurgood wrote (11-06-11 09:40) Well I eventually managed to find a free download of Adabas D for Linux. The setup is not trivial, even for an individual user (involves setting up a root account for the db admin, and a separate group, to which all Whoops - brave! Adabas us

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Francois Tigeot
Hi, On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 09:40:43AM +0200, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > Le 10/06/11 18:46, Cor Nouws a écrit : > > > When creating a new Database, connecting to an existing one, you can > > choose Adabas DB... > > So I guess the code has to do with that? > > Well I eventually managed to find a

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 10/06/11 14:48, Francois Tigeot a écrit : Hi François, > > In the past, some versions of StarOffice were bundled with a limited > freeware version of the Adabas database engine. > > The Adabas support is still present in LibreOffice; howewer, I'm not sure > if it is still used or if the free

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 10/06/11 18:46, Cor Nouws a écrit : Hi Cor, > When creating a new Database, connecting to an existing one, you can > choose Adabas DB... > So I guess the code has to do with that? Well I eventually managed to find a free download of Adabas D for Linux. The setup is not trivial, even for an in

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-10 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 10/06/11 18:46, Cor Nouws a écrit : Hi Cor, >> If it is there in the code, it can not be seen anywhere in the UI that I >> know of, > > When creating a new Database, connecting to an existing one, you can > choose Adabas DB... > So I guess the code has to do with that? It is not available on

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-10 Thread Francois Tigeot
Hi Alex, On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 05:39:34PM +0200, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > Le 10/06/11 14:48, Francois Tigeot a écrit : > > > The Adabas support is still present in LibreOffice; howewer, I'm not sure > > if it is still used or if the free (as in beer) Adabas version is still > > available som

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Alexander Thurgood wrote (10-06-11 17:27) If it is there in the code, it can not be seen anywhere in the UI that I know of, When creating a new Database, connecting to an existing one, you can choose Adabas DB... So I guess the code has to do with that? Regards, -- - Cor - http://nl.libre

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-10 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 10/06/11 14:48, Francois Tigeot a écrit : Me again, > > In the past, some versions of StarOffice were bundled with a limited > freeware version of the Adabas database engine. > > The Adabas support is still present in LibreOffice; howewer, I'm not sure > if it is still used or if the free (a

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-10 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 10/06/11 14:48, Francois Tigeot a écrit : Hi François > > In the past, some versions of StarOffice were bundled with a limited > freeware version of the Adabas database engine. > > The Adabas support is still present in LibreOffice; howewer, I'm not sure > if it is still used or if the free