[tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-08-04 Thread plino
Andras Timar wrote: 1. VC++ 2008 x86 9.0.30729.6161 does not exist as a redistributable package, so we need to distribute what is available, VC++ 2008 x86 9.0.30729.4148 that is. Could someone please update the VC included with version 3.4.2 rc1 to build 9.0.30729.4148 then? It is still

[tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-08-04 Thread plino
Andras Timar wrote: 1. VC++ 2008 x86 9.0.30729.6161 does not exist as a redistributable package, so we need to distribute what is available, VC++ 2008 x86 9.0.30729.4148 that is. Could someone please update the VC included with version 3.3.4 rc1 to build 9.0.30729.4148 then? It is still

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-24 Thread Valter Mura
Il giorno 24/lug/2011 01.54, plino pedl...@gmail.com ha scritto: Hi Andras Andras Timar wrote: You fail to understand what people try to explain to you. I can argue the exact same thing. Andras Timar wrote: Currently we install start the VC++ 2008 redistributable 9.0.30729.4148

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-24 Thread Andras Timar
Hi Pedro, 2011/7/24 plino pedl...@gmail.com: Andras Timar wrote: Currently we install start the VC++ 2008 redistributable 9.0.30729.4148 installer, if it is not installed and skip the installation, if it is installed. If you can skip if the SAME version is installed why can't you skip if

[tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-24 Thread plino
Hi Andras Andras Timar wrote: Because it is not possible to query a newer version reliably. Especially, detecting yet to be released newer versions seems to be difficult to me. The MsiQueryProductState call can be used only if the product code of the package is known. I'm not a programmer

[tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-23 Thread plino
Jesús Corrius wrote: We can detect if there a new version installed, and then do nothing, but the trade-off will be to make LibreOffice less reliable. LibreOffice will be less reliable because you won't force to install an older (unsecure) version which in your own words won't even be

[tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-23 Thread plino
Hi Andras Andras Timar wrote: You fail to understand what people try to explain to you. I can argue the exact same thing. Andras Timar wrote: Currently we install start the VC++ 2008 redistributable 9.0.30729.4148 installer, if it is not installed and skip the installation, if it is

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-07-19 8:10 AM, Jesús Corrius wrote: 2. The versions of the C++ libraries we are distributing are the last ones available from Microsoft as a full package. According to the security bulletin: That isn't the point... NO software should EVER force the installation of older libraries when

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-19 Thread Jesús Corrius
Hi all, On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 4:15 AM, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On 07/18/2011 06:07 PM, plino wrote: NoOp wrote: I'd recommend a followup to the dev list. plino, when you do that you might also add links to the security notices for the earlier version of VC++ 2008. The Dev list

[tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-19 Thread plino
Jesús Corrius wrote: 1. LibreOffice and all the other applications (ok, unless they are using private assemblies[1]) will always use the lastest updated versions of the libraries installed in the system. Any user has many old libraries installed in the WinSxS directory and it's not a

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-19 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 7/19/11 2:53 PM, plino wrote: I understand that it is the version you are supposed to distribute. BUT it still needs a CHECK because there are NEWER security fixes. Although I don't use Windows, I've seen a recent update of the C++ Redistributable Package under Windows 7 on a friend's PC.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-19 Thread Jesús Corrius
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/19/11 2:53 PM, plino wrote: I understand that it is the version you are supposed to distribute. BUT it still needs a CHECK because there are NEWER security fixes. Although I don't use Windows, I've seen a

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-19 Thread Jesús Corrius
I ALREADY HAVE A NEWER VERSION INSTALLED!!! LibreOffice IGNORES my NEWER VC++ and STILL installs the OLDER version included. It's a waste of time and resources. I understand that it is the version you are supposed to distribute. BUT it still needs a CHECK because there are NEWER security

[tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-18 Thread plino
Jesús Corrius wrote: This is working fine. If you don't have the matching version already installed, then the installer should install the version referenced in the manifests. If the version is already installed, the VC runtime installer does nothing. But in this case, it's polite to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-18 Thread Jesús Corrius
No it's not, Jesus. It is installing a previous version with security issues when a newer fixed version is already installed. It should never install if a newer is already installed. The versions are not overridden, they are installed in parallel. If you go to your C:\windows\winsxs folder,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-18 Thread Robert Boehm
On 07/18/2011 06:19 PM, Jesús Corrius wrote: No it's not, Jesus. It is installing a previous version with security issues when a newer fixed version is already installed. It should never install if a newer is already installed. The versions are not overridden, they are installed in parallel.

[tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-18 Thread plino
Robert Boehm wrote: Obviously, if the version preferred by the installer is the only version that the installed files will work with is the only choice, then well, OK. But if it's compatible with the latest version, maybe there is a way to make sure that the latest version available is

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-18 Thread Robert Boehm
On 07/18/2011 07:04 PM, plino wrote: Robert Boehm wrote: Obviously, if the version preferred by the installer is the only version that the installed files will work with is the only choice, then well, OK. But if it's compatible with the latest version, maybe there is a way to make sure that

[tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-18 Thread NoOp
On 07/18/2011 05:12 PM, Robert Boehm wrote: On 07/18/2011 07:04 PM, plino wrote: Robert Boehm wrote: Obviously, if the version preferred by the installer is the only version that the installed files will work with is the only choice, then well, OK. But if it's compatible with the latest

[tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-18 Thread plino
NoOp wrote: I'd recommend a followup to the dev list. plino, when you do that you might also add links to the security notices for the earlier version of VC++ 2008. The Dev list is for devs only. I have unsubscribed from it. Here is the link http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2538243 --

[tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-18 Thread NoOp
On 07/18/2011 06:07 PM, plino wrote: NoOp wrote: I'd recommend a followup to the dev list. plino, when you do that you might also add links to the security notices for the earlier version of VC++ 2008. The Dev list is for devs only. I have unsubscribed from it. I got crap for posting