Re: [tdf-discuss] A better idea for a download package.

2011-01-11 Thread Alan Reeve
On 06/01/2011 16:53, Augustine Souza wrote: No doubt there are valid reasons for having an install with every available language pack included and a multitude of sound files and graphics in the gallery but I hope that someone considers the difficulty of others who have limited broadband quotas or

Re: [tdf-discuss] A better idea for a download package.

2011-01-07 Thread yahoo-pier_andreit
Il 06/01/2011 17:01, Christophe Strobbe ha scritto: > > At 21:03 30/11/2010, Charles Marcus wrote: >> (...) >> >> The current size problem as compared to OOo is because all of the >> language packs are included... and this situation is only temporary >> until storage is no longer an issue... > >

Re: [tdf-discuss] A better idea for a download package.

2011-01-06 Thread Augustine Souza
No doubt there are valid reasons for having an install with every available language pack included and a multitude of sound files and graphics in the gallery but I hope that someone considers the difficulty of others who have limited broadband quotas or poor connectivity. If LibreOffice is to becom

RE: [tdf-discuss] A better idea for a download package.

2011-01-06 Thread Brenden Seibel
handy to have one Multilanguage package so I don't need to be downloading language packs. -Original Message- From: Christophe Strobbe [mailto:christophe.stro...@esat.kuleuven.be] Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 11:01 AM To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] A b

Re: [tdf-discuss] A better idea for a download package.

2011-01-06 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Christophe, *, On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Christophe Strobbe wrote: > At 21:03 30/11/2010, Charles Marcus wrote: >> >> (...) >> >> The current size problem as compared to OOo is because all of the >> language packs are included... and this situation is only temporary >> until storage is n

Re: [tdf-discuss] A better idea for a download package.

2011-01-06 Thread Christophe Strobbe
At 21:03 30/11/2010, Charles Marcus wrote: (...) The current size problem as compared to OOo is because all of the language packs are included... and this situation is only temporary until storage is no longer an issue... After all the negative comments on the download size in this old threa

Re: [tdf-discuss] A better idea for a download package.

2010-12-02 Thread BRM
- Original Message > From: Friedrich Strohmaier > BRM schrieb: > > From: Charles Marcus > >> On 2010-11-30 5:29 PM, BRM wrote: > >>> While that may currently be the case - that is absolutely > >>> ridiculous. TDF/LO should make a priority of resolving that > >>> issue. > >> Great,

Re: [tdf-discuss] A better idea for a download package.

2010-12-01 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-12-01 12:16 PM, BRM wrote: > Please stop discouraging this kind of work. I'm not, I'm trying to help you understand how difficult such an undertaking is. The way it was described to me, it would take many many experienced developers many many months (if not years) to do the rewrite (we're

Re: [tdf-discuss] A better idea for a download package.

2010-12-01 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi BRM, BRM schrieb: > From: Charles Marcus >> On 2010-11-30 5:29 PM, BRM wrote: [..] >>> While that may currently be the case - that is absolutely >>> ridiculous. TDF/LO should make a priority of resolving that >>> issue. >> Great, then I'm sure your contribution of these code changes will

Re: [tdf-discuss] A better idea for a download package.

2010-12-01 Thread BRM
- Original Message > From: Charles Marcus > On 2010-11-30 5:29 PM, BRM wrote: > >> LibO - like OOo - does not really have separate components. Even if you > >> > could download just one component, the resulting size would only be a > >> > few MBs smaller than it is now. > > While th

Re: [tdf-discuss] A better idea for a download package.

2010-12-01 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-11-30 5:29 PM, BRM wrote: >> LibO - like OOo - does not really have separate components. Even if you >> > could download just one component, the resulting size would only be a >> > few MBs smaller than it is now. > While that may currently be the case - that is absolutely ridiculous. > TD

Re: [tdf-discuss] A better idea for a download package.

2010-11-30 Thread BRM
- Original Message > From: Charles Marcus > On 2010-11-30 2:16 PM, Kevin Vermeer wrote: > > Perhaps the installer could be replaced by a small configuration > > application, which would allow the user to select the components they wish > > to install, and would then download the selec

Re: [tdf-discuss] A better idea for a download package.

2010-11-30 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-11-30 2:16 PM, Kevin Vermeer wrote: > Perhaps the installer could be replaced by a small configuration > application, which would allow the user to select the components they wish > to install, and would then download the selected components? This is fast becoming an FAQ... LibO - like OO

Re: [tdf-discuss] A better idea for a download package.

2010-11-30 Thread Daniel Bessa
Hi, I'm a LO user and that's my opinion about the discussion: I'm still using LO beta 1 because of its download size. When I saw the size of package beta 2 and 3, I gave up. I thought that each beta release I need to download ~300 MB... It's better for me download this on the stable version. *So

Re: [tdf-discuss] A better idea for a download package.

2010-11-30 Thread Kevin Vermeer
Bandwidth is not the only reason for a smaller installer, and I'm not even sure it's a significant one. Users with dial-up internet, slow DSL connections, or bandwidth caps are used to long, long downloads. The difference between 3 minutes and 10 minutes might be significant to those of us with f

Re: [tdf-discuss] A better idea for a download package.

2010-11-27 Thread nathan nolast
I have to say I hole heartedly disagree. Simplicity with choice is great. I agree here, but Keeping our entire application "Libo" Seamless is a must. The Libo office suite has many counterparts, tons of differentiating purposes, and needs to fulfil for a large diverse consumer base with many diffe

Re: [tdf-discuss] A better idea for a download package.

2010-11-25 Thread Robert Derman
With all the discussion of the size of the download package and the difficulty of including things like manuals I suddenly realized that perhaps we are going about this thing entirely wrong! Perhaps what we should do is offer a CHOICE of several download packages, not just one take it or leave