Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
On 29/10/2011 08:23, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: Hi, Le 29/10/2011 00:16, Cor Nouws a écrit : Hi, I noticed that the old users forums from OOo are not available any more. I was not a frequent visitor, but helped a bit with questions (on the Dutch language version) now and then. There was a mixt

[tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011-10-28 5:21 PM Stefan Weigel wrote: Am 29.10.2011 00:16, schrieb Cor Nouws: > I noticed that the old users forums from OOo are not available any > more. Hm. Aren´t they still available? http://user.services.openoffice.org/ But, you are right, it´s likely they will disappear or be

[tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011-10-29 1:11 AM Jonathan Aquilina wrote: On 29/10/2011 08:23, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: Migration has been done : http://ooo-forums.apache.org/ It works for FR forum but I do not know how users will be aware of the new url. Best regards. JBF Simple fix. Setup a redirect from the old

[tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Olivier R.
Hello Cor, Cor Nouws wrote: > > So apart from that it is maybe not fair ;-) to profit too much on the > work of the forums at Apache (when life), it will be increasingly > insufficient for our own users. > Forums administrators and volonteers have always claim to be non-discriminative. They

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Olivier, Le 29/10/2011 10:16, Olivier R. a écrit : > Hello Cor, > > > Cor Nouws wrote: >> >> So apart from that it is maybe not fair ;-) to profit too much on the >> work of the forums at Apache (when life), it will be increasingly >> insufficient for our own users. >> > > Forums admini

Re: [tdf-discuss] Good bye to all of the community members knowing my name...

2011-10-29 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Bernhard, Le 29/10/2011 01:24, Bernhard Dippold a écrit : > Hi all! > > After quite an amount of time and a lot of work for LibreOffice and > OpenOffice.org before I have to tell you that I'll have to stop my > activities in this great community. > > Even if I tried not to compromise my re

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 10/29/2011 10:16 AM, Olivier R. wrote: AFAIK, forums migrated on Apache server only because TDF has always favored mailing-lists and seemed to have low respect for forums. Before Apache, TDF seemed not concerned with forums hosting. When we started the project in 2010, "human" bandwidth was

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi, Am 29.10.2011 10:16, schrieb Olivier R.: > Forums administrators and volonteers have always claim to be > non-discriminative. They support all versions of the software: LibreOffice, > OpenOffice.org, NeoOffice, etc. That´s correct. And that´s why the following is *not* correct: > TDF has a

[tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Olivier R.
Hello Charles, > providing mailing lists seems to mean that we don't > respect forums No. You are twisting what I said. Apache offered to host forums. There have been a lot of discussions, and it was not easy to find a common ground. Did TDF offer to host forums ? Regards, Olivier -- View this

[tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Olivier R.
Hello, Italo Vignoli wrote: > > Recently, we have offered a server - without any condition - to host the > forums, but the admins have decided to go to Apache. The answer I got > when I wrote to the ooo-user@apache mailing list is a testament of forum > admins positioning (no answer at all).

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Le 29/10/2011 11:37, Olivier R. a écrit : > Hello Charles, > >> providing mailing lists seems to mean that we don't >> respect forums > > No. You are twisting what I said. Perhaps, but I actually heard a similar argument about "the lack of respect" to the forums (but apparently you make a diff

[tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Olivier R.
Charles, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > > Perhaps, but I actually heard a similar argument about "the lack of > respect" to the forums (but apparently you make a different point) from > several people over the last months, hence my reaction. > Maybe I should have written “lack of consideration” i

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, Stefan Weigel wrote on 2011-10-29 11:35: It´s not a matter of low respect. It´s just not necessary to mess around and create yet another forum, since there are already well-settled forums, driven by the community, that fully cover LibreOffice.;-) the points raised by Italo are not inval

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
On 29/10/2011 14:30, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, Stefan Weigel wrote on 2011-10-29 11:35: It´s not a matter of low respect. It´s just not necessary to mess around and create yet another forum, since there are already well-settled forums, driven by the community, that fully cover LibreOffi

Re: [tdf-discuss] Good bye to all of the community members knowing my name...

2011-10-29 Thread Florian Effenberger
Dear Bernhard, Bernhard Dippold wrote on 2011-10-29 01:24: After quite an amount of time and a lot of work for LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org before I have to tell you that I'll have to stop my activities in this great community. it comes with gread sadness to read those lines. Over the years

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Jonathan, Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-10-29 14:33: I am more then willing to volunteer a section on my forums for Libreoffice and the TDF discussion and support as well. I am using phpbb for the forums though :( thanks a lot for that offer. If we, however, decide for TDF forums, I then

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
On 29/10/2011 14:38, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Jonathan, Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-10-29 14:33: I am more then willing to volunteer a section on my forums for Libreoffice and the TDF discussion and support as well. I am using phpbb for the forums though :( thanks a lot for that offe

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 10/29/2011 11:37 AM, Olivier R. wrote: Did TDF offer to host forums ? Yes -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.or

RE: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The OpenOffice.org Forums were moved onto Apache Servers in the past few days. Oracle was retiring the server and the migration had to be done hastily. Fortunately, the new server had already been set up and experimental migrations confirmed. The rehosted forums are now UP AND RUNNING AT THE

[tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-10-29 08:55, Jonathan Aquilina a écrit : On 29/10/2011 14:38, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Jonathan, Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-10-29 14:33: I am more then willing to volunteer a section on my forums for Libreoffice and the TDF discussion and support as well. I am using phpbb for

RE: [tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I'm one of the Forum-invited Apache Observers. I worked with the OOo Forum Administrators and other Apache Observers to arrive at an acceptable accommodation of the Forum governance with requirements that Apache has for web properties in its custody. I am not aware of *any* statements from AOO

[tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread jeanmi2403
It is here : http://user.services.openoffice.org/nl/forum/index.php http://user.services.openoffice.org/nl/forum/index.php Friendly - ]LibO 3.4.2 Windows 7 Familiale Premium SP1 x64 -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/user-forums-tp3462202p3463075.html Sent

[tdf-discuss] Document Foundation Board 2011: Final Results

2011-10-29 Thread Simon Phipps
Having received no objections to the preliminary election results I posted on October 20th within the period described in the election rules, it is now my pleasure to declare the results of the 2011 Board elections for The Document Foundation. I declare the following Members of The Document Fou

Re: [tdf-discuss] Good bye to all of the community members knowing my name...

2011-10-29 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Bernhard, Bernhard Dippold wrote (29-10-11 01:24) After quite an amount of time and a lot of work for LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org before I have to tell you that I'll have to stop my activities in this great community. Thanks for working with us - I'm glad that I learned to know you :-)

[tdf-discuss] Re: Document Foundation Board 2011: Final Results

2011-10-29 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-10-29 13:06, Simon Phipps a écrit : Having received no objections to the preliminary election results I posted on October 20th within the period described in the election rules, it is now my pleasure to declare the results of the 2011 Board elections for The Document Foundation. I dec

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Olivier, Olivier R. wrote (29-10-11 10:16) Forums administrators and volonteers have always claim to be non-discriminative. They support all versions of the software: LibreOffice, OpenOffice.org, NeoOffice, etc. And almost all of us have already switched to LibreOffice. Is it really necessar

Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote (29-10-11 19:45) The rehosted forums are now UP AND RUNNING AT THEIR ORIGINAL URLs. Cor and others might have noticed outages during the transition, Indeed, works now. -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Italo, Italo Vignoli wrote (29-10-11 11:26) LibreOffice is going forward and bringing new features to users, with an increasingly different code base. OOo is going backwards, [...] From what I've seen the past year, I am not positive too about OO, especially not compared to LibreOffice. B

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Dennis, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote (29-10-11 20:47) I am also not aware of any discussion that was antagonistic to TDF whatsoever among those involved with finding a resolution for the migration of the OOo Forums to a reliable hosting. The key objection was to preserve and continue that valuab

Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Andrea, Andrea Pescetti wrote (29-10-11 01:11) I believe that in general fragmenting support is not a good idea, unless it is really needed. Me too - though there are some nuances. I write about this in some other mails. Regards, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe in

Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Marc-André Laverdière
I know that I am skipping a lot of the back-and-forth here, but let me point out the elephant in the room... Why forums in the first place? I think that most people on the mailing list know about stack exchange, and how rockin' it is. I think it would bee a) cool and b) a boon to our mutual users

Re: [tdf-discuss] Good bye to all of the community members knowing my name...

2011-10-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 29/10/2011 Bernhard Dippold wrote: Even if I tried not to compromise my real life by my LibreOffice activities, I had to realize, that I can't reach this goal Thanks Bernhard for your long history of contributions to OpenOffice.org and later LibreOffice. I understand that the time comes whe