Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

2011-10-30 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
On 30/10/2011 01:27, Marc-André Laverdière wrote: I know that I am skipping a lot of the back-and-forth here, but let me point out the elephant in the room... Why forums in the first place? I think that most people on the mailing list know about stack exchange, and how rockin' it is. I think

Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

2011-10-30 Thread Marc-André Laverdière
Who in their right mind want forums? If you want exchange of ideas, mailing lists are great. If you want a solution to your problem, Forums just stink. Stack overflow was designed to overcome the limitations of old school forums. Why go back? Actually, we should think about how to port the old

Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

2011-10-30 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Well, it turns out many people seem to want to use forums, and most of them are not technical, they are end users so I don't expect they have the same needs as developers. I just assume there's no fundamental truth in either mailing list or forums usage... Best, Charles. Le 30/10/2011 13:42,

Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

2011-10-30 Thread Marc-André Laverdière
Seeing is believing sometimes... On 30 Oct 2011 08:50, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Well, it turns out many people seem to want to use forums, and most of them are not technical, they are end users so I don't expect they have the same needs as developers. I

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-30 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-10-29 14:55: If you opt to name one as an official TDF mirror it wont take me a second to setup a TDF section and LO section for use. what is the URL of your existing forum, so I can have a look? I am wondering though if you go for self hosted solution i

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-30 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
On 30/10/2011 16:40, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-10-29 14:55: If you opt to name one as an official TDF mirror it wont take me a second to setup a TDF section and LO section for use. what is the URL of your existing forum, so I can have a look? I am

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-30 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
On 30/10/2011 16:40, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-10-29 14:55: If you opt to name one as an official TDF mirror it wont take me a second to setup a TDF section and LO section for use. what is the URL of your existing forum, so I can have a look? I am

[tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-30 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-10-30 11:40, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Single sign-on is indeed something I'd like to see soon, but there are no concrete plans as of now. One option would be OpenID, another one an LDAP connection - let's see what we can come up with. ;-) Florian OpenId is the option that users

[tdf-discuss] Status quo on the Foundation, October 2011

2011-10-30 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, It has been a while since I have blogged about the Foundation status, but the Steering Committee have been very active on this topic in the meantime. Now that we are handing over to the new Board of Directors, it is good to document where we have reached. First, we are delighted that

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-30 Thread Marc-André Laverdière
+ On 30 Oct 2011 13:49, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2011-10-30 11:40, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Single sign-on is indeed something I'd like to see soon, but there are no concrete plans as o... OpenId is the option that users would be most familiar, there are many sites using

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-30 Thread Marc-André Laverdière
+1 for open id. Sorry for the extra email... my phone's touch screen is a bit off sometimes. On 30 Oct 2011 13:49, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2011-10-30 11:40, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Single sign-on is indeed something I'd like to see soon, but there are no concrete plans

RE: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

2011-10-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I have no desire to get in the middle of this. I do have some interesting statistics gleaned from the current OpenOffice.org Forums for another purpose earlier today. Here is something about the scale and level of interest that exists even now, independent of the current status of releases

RE: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

2011-10-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Um, lest I confuse everyone: After the English language forum, the French and then the Spanish language forums are the next most active in terms of registered users and other statistics. The remainder are in the 1,000-2,000 range and then Vietnamese is the smallest. I don't have figures for

[tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-30 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-10-30 20:15, Dennis E. Hamilton a écrit : Um, lest I confuse everyone: After the English language forum, the French and then the Spanish language forums are the next most active in terms of registered users and other statistics. The remainder are in the 1,000-2,000 range and then

Re: [steering-discuss] size of to be elected MC

2011-10-30 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Simon, Le 30/10/2011 10:27, Simon Phipps a écrit : On 29 Oct 2011, at 17:47, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, following today's SC/BoD phone conference, I'd hereby like to propose, based on André's suggestion, that the to be elected membership committee will consist of

[steering-discuss] appointing Thorsten as election officer for MC

2011-10-30 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, just to have it official: I'd hereby like to nominate Thorsten Behrens as election officer for the upcoming membership committee elections. As Thorsten is elected BoD member, he is not running for an MC seat, and thus should have no conflict of interest in acting as election officer.

Re: [steering-discuss] Preparing elections for the membership committee

2011-10-30 Thread David Emmerich Jourdain
Hi, 2011/10/30 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Hello, André Schnabel wrote on 2011-10-26 21:48: as we have discussed previously, the paragraphs about the membership committee in the current statutes draft differ in some points from what we have in the bylaws. I hope, I

Re: [steering-discuss] Preparing elections for the membership committee

2011-10-30 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, David Emmerich Jourdain wrote on 2011-10-30 16:28: IMHO, I don't see why can we not adopt this option. The current MC proved that was (and is) impartial and deeply focused on meritocracy, essential factors for an MC. For me, the current MC proved that's fully deserving of this gentlemen's

Re: [steering-discuss] appointing Thorsten as election officer for MC

2011-10-30 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 30 Oct 2011, at 15:34, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-10-30 16:34: +1 from my side... do we only need one? IMHO one is enough, as we had it for the BoD elections. Note that, for

Re: [steering-discuss] appointing Thorsten as election officer for MC

2011-10-30 Thread Jesús Corrius
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hello, just to have it official: I'd hereby like to nominate Thorsten Behrens as election officer for the upcoming membership committee elections. As Thorsten is elected BoD member, he is not running

Re: [steering-discuss] Preparing elections for the membership committee

2011-10-30 Thread André Schnabel
Hi, Am 30.10.2011 17:09, schrieb Norbert Thiebaud: Maybe we can do with the current MC as 'initially designated' for the first 6 month of the foundation and organize a MC election then, since it would be a good idea to have BoD election and MC election somewhat separated to avoid

Re: [steering-discuss] size of to be elected MC

2011-10-30 Thread Jesús Corrius
Based on the statutes, the BoD is in charge of defining the size of the MC, with the limitations of having at least three people, and not more than 10% of the total members (i.e. 13-15 people right now, IIRC). I'd ask all BoD members to vote on the above proposal. My vote: +1 +1 -- Jesús

Re: [steering-discuss] Preparing elections for the membership committee

2011-10-30 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi, 2011/10/30 André Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.net: Hi, Am 30.10.2011 17:09, schrieb Norbert Thiebaud: Maybe we can do with the current MC as 'initially designated' for the first 6 month of the foundation and organize a MC election then, since it would be a good idea to have BoD election

Re: [steering-discuss] appointing Thorsten as election officer for MC

2011-10-30 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, Norbert Thiebaud wrote on 2011-10-30 17:20: I agree: the BoD election should be supervised by the MC and vice-versa. The 'Election Officer' is just the point man, the 'executive officer'. He can be any member designated by the body having oversight of the election. indeed. The BoD

[steering-discuss] chairmen

2011-10-30 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, sorry for spamming you so massively today, but I want to use the free day to get some formal things done for TDF. The current statutes (which you will soon have in a translated English version) foresee, as it is a legal requirement in Germany, that there will be two chairmen: One

side-note Re: [steering-discuss] chairmen

2011-10-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Florian. It is good to have these issues dealt with. There is no need to apologise for 'spam' as it is all relevant and important stuff. If these issue weren't raised today they would have to be raised another day and they are the type of thing that is good to deal with and get out of

Re: [steering-discuss] chairmen

2011-10-30 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi Florian, *, Am Sonntag, 30. Oktober 2011, 19:44:02 schrieb Florian Effenberger: Hello, sorry for spamming you so massively today, but I want to use the free day to get some formal things done for TDF. I assist you in spamming a bit ;-) (...) The statues do not set explicit rules on