Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice general ideas and suggestions

[Marc Paré]

After reading through a lot of mails today and yesterday it's my
understanding that this list will be available at gmane
  which provides a lot of opportunities to
get this list as you like it.

In addition I read that there is also an online forum on its way.
It is said that it will be for end user questions but once set up a
beta-tester sections should be addable but I don't know the
infrastructure nor the uses forum framework.

But from my experience the average end user prefers forums because
he thinks them to be more clear but in the end he just starts a new
topic because none of the presented ones seems to match his
need/question.

Eric


I agree. It is also well organised for the end user. Unlike the user, I 
find the forums less confusing and you can check on previous messages 
easier.


Marc
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[tdf-discuss] Renessance project in LibreOffice

[Jan Parttimaa]

Hello!

I was wondering. Is Renessance project now part of The Document Foundation
and LibreOffice?

(You know Renessance project which develop new interface on Openoffice.org.)

Sincerely

Jan Parttimaa
Lapland, Finland

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOfficeForum.org is now functioning

[Jean Hollis Weber]

On Wed, 2010-09-29, Sam wrote:

> I would like to offer to the LibreOffice community a support forum  
> that I have just created on a reliable host:
> http://libreofficeforum.org
> It is my hope that LibreOfficeForum.org will serve as a central point  
> for English language support.  I have been administering
> community forums with Drupal for quite a few years now, and I feel  
> confident that with the help of some additional honest, polite 
> moderators, we could maintain a high level of
> organization on LibreOfficeForum.org.
> 
> Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks again for your time and efforts.


Sam,
Speaking for myself, thank you for taking the initiative on this. I have
just signed up (made an account) at the forum. I don't know how much
time I will have for doing user support (I'm too busy writing user
guides for OOo) but I will help when I can. Several years ago I was
active on the OOo support forums, including being a moderator, but I had
to drop out due to lack of time.

--Jean
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Explanation . . . ?

[Jean Hollis Weber]

On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 07:58 +0200, Eric Hoch wrote:
> Hi Nancy, 
> Am Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:42:07 -0500 schrieb Nancy Ward:
> 
> > Although this is the first time in a few years I've tried 
> > Libre(open)Office, it has made strides in the right direction. 
> > Now if I could only get some documentation . . . It wouldn't 
> > download for me today from openoffice.org.
> 
> You'll find some documentation here 
> . It has the OOo branding but 
> in essence it's the same product. Maybe there are some additional 
> features from go-oo.org sources which aren't documented yet but the 
> vast majority of features are covered if there is a document for 
> the specific module, features, task. 

Occasionally that website has hiccups, and some of the links from that
page go to the wrong place (we should get them fixed later today).
Perhaps that's why Nancy said the doco wouldn't download for her today.

A better link is this one:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Chapters

There you will find PDFs of user guides and individual chapters for OOo.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Join in of the TechTeam from OpenOffice.org Switzerland

[André Schnabel]

Hi,

Am 30.09.2010 00:22, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:



As far as I know, the QATrack sources for 1.0 and 2.0 (but I cannot find
the most recent ones there) were contributed to the QA CVS repository:
http://qa.openoffice.org/source/browse/qa/qatrack/ and actually
http://qatrack.services.openoffice.org/about.php still points to it (see
footer).


I don'T know, if all the soures are in a code repository. At least they 
are on our (OOoDeV's) server, as we actually host the production QATrack.


André

PS.: I'm not sure about the status of quaste.
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice general ideas and suggestions

[Eric Hoch]

Hi Nancy, 
Am Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:29:39 -0500 schrieb Nancy Ward:
> 
> From: Joe Rotello
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 7:23 AM
> To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
> Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice general ideas and suggestions
> 
> 2. The discuss@documentfoundation.org NEEDS to at least offer the option 
> to allow users to receive one or two "all messages" combined Email 
> (usually called Digest option) instead of so many separate Emails being 
> received by all of us.
> 
> How and where would this be accomplished at the 
> discuss@documentfoundation.org website ?
> 
> Speaking ofdisc...@documentfoundation.org messages, would it not be a 
> good idea to have in the message Subject line the OS or specific topic 
> that the message pertains to ?  Such as "Win 7", "Windows 64bit", 
> "Fedora", "Mac OS", or "Libre Wordprocessor" and so forth. That way, we 
> all know exactly what OS or topic that the message is referring to.
> 
> Joe
> Knoxville, TN / USA
> ..
> Joe, sorry to barge in here, but I've been laying off to try Open 
> Office, and when I got the LibreOffice email, I decided it's time 
> to try it. I'm all for open source and moving Open Office away 
> from Oracle.
> However, I am totally confused! I've been beta testing for 
> Microsoft for several years, and there are Forums where things 
> are discussed, depending on the subject. I hate Forums, and I'm 
> sorry, but this is even worse!
>  
> Is there anything like discussion forums online where I could go 
> to see the messages in subject form so I wouldn't be so totally 
> lost?

After reading through a lot of mails today and yesterday it's my 
understanding that this list will be available at gmane 
 which provides a lot of opportunities to 
get this list as you like it. 

In addition I read that there is also an online forum on its way. 
It is said that it will be for end user questions but once set up a 
beta-tester sections should be addable but I don't know the 
infrastructure nor the uses forum framework. 

But from my experience the average end user prefers forums because 
he thinks them to be more clear but in the end he just starts a new 
topic because none of the presented ones seems to match his 
need/question. 

Eric 

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Explanation . . . ?

[Eric Hoch]

Hi Nancy, 
Am Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:42:07 -0500 schrieb Nancy Ward:

> Although this is the first time in a few years I've tried 
> Libre(open)Office, it has made strides in the right direction. 
> Now if I could only get some documentation . . . It wouldn't 
> download for me today from openoffice.org.

You'll find some documentation here 
. It has the OOo branding but 
in essence it's the same product. Maybe there are some additional 
features from go-oo.org sources which aren't documented yet but the 
vast majority of features are covered if there is a document for 
the specific module, features, task. 

Eric


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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOfficeForum.org is now functioning

[Nancy Ward]

?

From: Sam 
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:37 PM
To: discuss@documentfoundation.org 
Subject: [tdf-discuss] LibreOfficeForum.org is now functioning


Hello Document Foundation / LibreOffice,

I would like to offer to the LibreOffice community a support forum  
that I have just
created on a reliable host:
http://libreofficeforum.org
It is my hope that LibreOfficeForum.org will serve as a central point for 
English
language support. I am also fluent in the Spanish language, and if necessary I 
could
create a similar forum for that language if you would like. I have been 
administering
community forums with Drupal for quite a few years now, and I feel confident 
that with
the help of some additional honest, polite moderators, we could maintain a high 
level of
organization on LibreOfficeForum.org.

Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks again for your time and efforts.

Sincerely,
Sam

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It's better than weeding through all these messages, Sam. 

Nancy Ward
Windows 8 Beta Ferret<>

[tdf-discuss] [Bug] Installing LibreOffice.org in // with OpenOffice.org on Mac OS X Leopard

[Michèle Garoche]

Hello,

I hope this is the right mailing list to post the bugs right now.

System: Mac OS X 10.5.8
Architecture: Intel

Already installed in /Applications: OpenOffice.org 3.2.1
Install in /Applications: LibreOffice 3.3.0

To get all OpenOffice odp documents open with LibreOffice, I've done  
as usual:
Right-click on document, Get Info, Open with, select LibreOffice in  
the menu, click on Change All, confirm.
This does not work at all, though there is no warning. The document  
still opens with OpenOffice.org


I've tried another thing:
Move OpenOffice.org to / (aka Macintosh HD)
and redo: right-click on document, Get Info, Open with, select  
LibreOffice in the menu, click on Change All, confirm.
This time all documents open with LibreOffice but still retain the  
icon from OpenOffice.org.


I've tried another thing:
Change again all documents to OpenOffice.org
and do: right-click on document, Get Info, Open with, select  
JarInspector (well the only other application which opens this kind of  
document on my machine) in the menu, click on Change All, confirm.
and do again:  right-click on document, Get Info, Open with, select  
LibreOffice in the menu, click on Change All, confirm.
This time all documents open with LibreOffice and get the icon from  
LibreOffice.


I have no idea how it can be corrected, but it will be cool that it  
will.


Michèle Garoche


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Correct Forum for Build Questions

[Danishka Navin]

this was in the Document Foundation IRC.
Can some one add information on dependencies in 'How to Build' doc if deps
are required.

 hi, I am trying to build LibreOffice on windows with MinGW, and I
was wondering what the dependencies are
 i tried ./autogen.sh --with-distro=Win32, but it complained when
trying to make symbolic links from .git/hooks/commit-msg to
../../commit-msg.g
 I am building on Windows 7 x64


I saw this after he left the channel


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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOfficeForum.org is now functioning

[Marc Paré]

 Le 2010-09-30 00:50, Alexandro Colorado a écrit :



On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Marc Paré > wrote:


 Le 2010-09-30 00:37, Sam a écrit :

Hello Document Foundation / LibreOffice,

I just wanted to say that I appreciate very much your efforts
to improve upon the
OpenOffice suite and make it more open to everyone in the form
of LibreOffice. I
personally spend many hours every day on OpenOffice, so this
new initiative is very
important to me.

I would like to offer to the LibreOffice community a support
forum that I have just
created on a reliable host:
http://libreofficeforum.org
It is my hope that LibreOfficeForum.org will serve as a
central point for English
language support. I am also fluent in the Spanish language,
and if necessary I could
create a similar forum for that language if you would like. I
have been administering
community forums with Drupal for quite a few years now, and I
feel confident that with
the help of some additional honest, polite moderators, we
could maintain a high level of
organization on LibreOfficeForum.org.

Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks again for your time
and efforts.

Sincerely,
Sam


>From what I understand:

Keep in mind though, that the Document Foundation is waiting to
see if Oracle will donate back the trademarked "OpenOffice" name
to the foundation. It they do, then there would be no need for
this is the Document Foundation would only set up shop with the
regular OpenOffice forums that were already there.


Right, however there is no set timelimit for an Oracle response, some 
had said 2 months some have said at the end of the year, and some just 
2 weeks. So there is really not even a consensus on how long to wait.



This may be nice temporarily, unless the Document Foundation is
planning to setup their official forums under the LibreOffice.org
umbrella site. Which, at this point we don't know. All rests on
Oracle's response to the Document Foundation request for the name
donation.


Moving this to a central infrastructure can always be fixable by just 
adding a pointer from a subdomain, or phisically moving it to a 
different server. However from my experience not everyone likes a 
mailing list to communicate and you might be surprised that Forums are 
actually more popular than mailing list. So having a different channel 
specially right now, is very useful.  My 2 cents.


As long as Sam is aware of this. It would be great if a forums board 
were organized for now. It may in fact help with organizing the mailist 
messages before they start getting out of hand. It would also be great 
if someone from the Document Foundation gave the community a green light 
to organize it this way until the name change is set in stone. They may 
have had something (such as this) in mind to help out temporarily. 
Apparently the usenet discussion groups have been proposed and they are 
just waiting for the OK from the Gmane group.


Marc

Re: [tdf-discuss] Join in of the TechTeam from OpenOffice.org Switzerland

[Alexandro Colorado]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Raphael Bircher  wrote:

>  Hi Andreas
>
> Am 30.09.10 00:22, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>
>  Goran Rakic wrote:
>>
>>> QATrack was developed by Per Eriksson, he is a Sweden native-language
>>> project co-lead[3], is this code available?
>>>
>> QATrack until 1.0 was written by me and released under LGPL>= 2.1, with
>> copyright shared by me and Sun (I signed the JCA several years ago and
>> this qualifies as a contribution to the OOo project and is thus covered
>> by the JCA).
>>
>> Then Per took over and wrote 2.0 and the following versions.
>>
>> As far as I know, the QATrack sources for 1.0 and 2.0 (but I cannot find
>> the most recent ones there) were contributed to the QA CVS repository:
>> http://qa.openoffice.org/source/browse/qa/qatrack/ and actually
>> http://qatrack.services.openoffice.org/about.php still points to it (see
>> footer).
>>
> Maybe this is not a bad idea. Well I don't know QATrack well, but if it's
> possible to simply write a module for QATrack, it would be great. I mean,
> it's probabely the fastest way to get a good result. I will write down a
> small concept for the first version soon.
>
> I was finding also same other tools who are already finished. A list from
> QA Tools are under http://www.opensourcetesting.org/testmgt.php
>
> But we want a simple tool who makes everyone able tu do tests. Moast of the
> tools on this site are to complicate. I think we have not a big chance to
> find a tool who is directly ready to use. I think we will have a simple tool
> with spezific whishs. But I don't want to write a complet new tool.
>


I notify this to Per, he told me he will get in touch with Florian since
there is a more updated version on the live servers so he will probably need
to perform a separate install for the documentation project. Since he will
speak to Florian I think is the best way to settle this.


>
> Greetings Raphael
>
>
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOfficeForum.org is now functioning

[Alexandro Colorado]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Marc Paré  wrote:

>  Le 2010-09-30 00:37, Sam a écrit :
>
>  Hello Document Foundation / LibreOffice,
>>
>> I just wanted to say that I appreciate very much your efforts to improve
>> upon the
>> OpenOffice suite and make it more open to everyone in the form of
>> LibreOffice. I
>> personally spend many hours every day on OpenOffice, so this new
>> initiative is very
>> important to me.
>>
>> I would like to offer to the LibreOffice community a support forum that I
>> have just
>> created on a reliable host:
>> http://libreofficeforum.org
>> It is my hope that LibreOfficeForum.org will serve as a central point for
>> English
>> language support. I am also fluent in the Spanish language, and if
>> necessary I could
>> create a similar forum for that language if you would like. I have been
>> administering
>> community forums with Drupal for quite a few years now, and I feel
>> confident that with
>> the help of some additional honest, polite moderators, we could maintain a
>> high level of
>> organization on LibreOfficeForum.org.
>>
>> Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks again for your time and efforts.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Sam
>>
>>
> From what I understand:
>
> Keep in mind though, that the Document Foundation is waiting to see if
> Oracle will donate back the trademarked "OpenOffice" name to the foundation.
> It they do, then there would be no need for this is the Document Foundation
> would only set up shop with the regular OpenOffice forums that were already
> there.
>

Right, however there is no set timelimit for an Oracle response, some had
said 2 months some have said at the end of the year, and some just 2 weeks.
So there is really not even a consensus on how long to wait.


>
> This may be nice temporarily, unless the Document Foundation is planning to
> setup their official forums under the LibreOffice.org umbrella site. Which,
> at this point we don't know. All rests on Oracle's response to the Document
> Foundation request for the name donation.
>

Moving this to a central infrastructure can always be fixable by just adding
a pointer from a subdomain, or phisically moving it to a different server.
However from my experience not everyone likes a mailing list to communicate
and you might be surprised that Forums are actually more popular than
mailing list. So having a different channel specially right now, is very
useful.  My 2 cents.



>
> Marc
>
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOfficeForum.org is now functioning

[Varun Mittal]

I as the current moderator for all OOo Marketing project mailing lists, am
ready to volunteer to carry on the job of moderator of any mailing list of
forums, whenever /wherever it is required

Do let me know if I can be of any help in this regard :)

Thank You

Best Regards
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On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Sam  wrote:
>
>> Hello Document Foundation / LibreOffice,
>>
>> I just wanted to say that I appreciate very much your efforts to improve
>> upon the
>> OpenOffice suite and make it more open to everyone in the form of
>> LibreOffice. I
>> personally spend many hours every day on OpenOffice, so this new
>> initiative is very
>> important to me.
>>
>> I would like to offer to the LibreOffice community a support forum that I
>> have just
>> created on a reliable host:
>> http://libreofficeforum.org
>> It is my hope that LibreOfficeForum.org will serve as a central point for
>> English
>> language support. I am also fluent in the Spanish language, and if
>> necessary I could
>> create a similar forum for that language if you would like. I have been
>> administering
>> community forums with Drupal for quite a few years now, and I feel
>> confident that with
>> the help of some additional honest, polite moderators, we could maintain a
>> high level of
>> organization on LibreOfficeForum.org.
>>
>
> Would be great to add spanish support. As the lead of OpenOffice.org
> Spanish and current mantainer of the OOo spanish forum I think it would be
> great to start sending the forum from OOo to your forum if spanish is
> provided.
> Regards.
>
>
>>
>> Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks again for your time and efforts.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Sam
>>
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOfficeForum.org is now functioning

[Marc Paré]

 Le 2010-09-30 00:37, Sam a écrit :

Hello Document Foundation / LibreOffice,

I just wanted to say that I appreciate very much your efforts to 
improve upon the
OpenOffice suite and make it more open to everyone in the form of 
LibreOffice. I
personally spend many hours every day on OpenOffice, so this new 
initiative is very

important to me.

I would like to offer to the LibreOffice community a support forum 
that I have just

created on a reliable host:
http://libreofficeforum.org
It is my hope that LibreOfficeForum.org will serve as a central point 
for English
language support. I am also fluent in the Spanish language, and if 
necessary I could
create a similar forum for that language if you would like. I have 
been administering
community forums with Drupal for quite a few years now, and I feel 
confident that with
the help of some additional honest, polite moderators, we could 
maintain a high level of

organization on LibreOfficeForum.org.

Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks again for your time and efforts.

Sincerely,
Sam



From what I understand:

Keep in mind though, that the Document Foundation is waiting to see if 
Oracle will donate back the trademarked "OpenOffice" name to the 
foundation. It they do, then there would be no need for this is the 
Document Foundation would only set up shop with the regular OpenOffice 
forums that were already there.


This may be nice temporarily, unless the Document Foundation is planning 
to setup their official forums under the LibreOffice.org umbrella site. 
Which, at this point we don't know. All rests on Oracle's response to 
the Document Foundation request for the name donation.


Marc
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOfficeForum.org is now functioning

[Alexandro Colorado]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Sam  wrote:

> Hello Document Foundation / LibreOffice,
>
> I just wanted to say that I appreciate very much your efforts to improve
> upon the
> OpenOffice suite and make it more open to everyone in the form of
> LibreOffice. I
> personally spend many hours every day on OpenOffice, so this new initiative
> is very
> important to me.
>
> I would like to offer to the LibreOffice community a support forum that I
> have just
> created on a reliable host:
> http://libreofficeforum.org
> It is my hope that LibreOfficeForum.org will serve as a central point for
> English
> language support. I am also fluent in the Spanish language, and if
> necessary I could
> create a similar forum for that language if you would like. I have been
> administering
> community forums with Drupal for quite a few years now, and I feel
> confident that with
> the help of some additional honest, polite moderators, we could maintain a
> high level of
> organization on LibreOfficeForum.org.
>

Would be great to add spanish support. As the lead of OpenOffice.org Spanish
and current mantainer of the OOo spanish forum I think it would be great to
start sending the forum from OOo to your forum if spanish is provided.
Regards.


>
> Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks again for your time and efforts.
>
> Sincerely,
> Sam
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[tdf-discuss] LibreOfficeForum.org is now functioning

[Sam]

Hello Document Foundation / LibreOffice,

I just wanted to say that I appreciate very much your efforts to  
improve upon the
OpenOffice suite and make it more open to everyone in the form of  
LibreOffice. I
personally spend many hours every day on OpenOffice, so this new  
initiative is very

important to me.

I would like to offer to the LibreOffice community a support forum  
that I have just

created on a reliable host:
http://libreofficeforum.org
It is my hope that LibreOfficeForum.org will serve as a central point  
for English
language support. I am also fluent in the Spanish language, and if  
necessary I could
create a similar forum for that language if you would like. I have  
been administering
community forums with Drupal for quite a few years now, and I feel  
confident that with
the help of some additional honest, polite moderators, we could  
maintain a high level of

organization on LibreOfficeForum.org.

Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks again for your time and efforts.

Sincerely,
Sam

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Re: [tdf-discuss] CD/DVD labels

[Bernhard Dippold]

Bernhard Dippold schrieb:

Hi Jason,  Alexandro,

Alexandro Colorado schrieb:



On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Jason Komar mailto:jko...@jbox.ca>> wrote:

Has anyone done any work on CD/DVD labels for LibreOffice yet? If
not, is there any artwork available such as logo graphics, etc. so
we could roll our own?

Thanks,

Jason Komar


I requested the SVG logo of libreoffice but there was no respond to it
yet.


The logo design might need some brush up, the general branding isn't
finished at all.

So please stay tuned - just need to work on the structures and general
design, then we'll come back


But we will wait some days more - we still hope that Oracle decides to 
think about being part of the foundation, so we can stay with 
OpenOffice.org.


Best regards

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Re: [tdf-discuss] CD/DVD labels

[Bernhard Dippold]

Hi Jason,  Alexandro,

Alexandro Colorado schrieb:



On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Jason Komar mailto:jko...@jbox.ca>> wrote:

Has anyone done any work on CD/DVD labels for LibreOffice yet? If
not, is there any artwork available such as logo graphics, etc. so
we could roll our own?

Thanks,

Jason Komar


I requested the SVG logo of libreoffice but there was no respond to it yet.


The logo design might need some brush up, the general branding isn't 
finished at all.


So please stay tuned - just need to work on the structures and general 
design, then we'll come back


Best regards

Bernhard
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Correct Forum for Build Questions

[Alexandro Colorado]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Danishka Navin  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Alexandro Colorado 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Luis E Vásquez r > > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Medellin, sep 29/2010
>>>
>>> Hi, people
>>>
>>> All day was  testing  LOo in different environments and multiple files
>>> and I'm really happy with the result,  among other relevant langpack
>>> install OOo, both French and Spanish  work fine.
>>>
>>>
>> Great news Luis, keep up the good work. We will probably need to setup a
>> TCM similar to the one in OOo or request it to the community.
>> The previous TCM is located here, it looks somehow basic, maybe building a
>> new TCM with better look and feel.
>>
>> http://www.sunvirtuallab.com:8001/tcm2/opensource/tcm_login.cgi?tcm_config=newooo
>>
>
>
> please try to integrate Pootle, TCM and QAtrack if possible.
> At least TCM and QAtrack. there are communities that lack of people to l10n
> and QA.
> As we are doing these for each and every major and minor release, these
> integrations make them much easier.
>


In the past I would agree but really all we need is to have compatibility
with the authentication system which could be outsource to some service like
JanRain that uses OpenID to validate users regardless of the application
they are in.
http://www.janrain.com/


>
>
> Best Regards,
> --
> Danishka Navin
> http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Luis E. Vásquez R.
>>> OpenOffice.org Volunteer & Support
>>> Este mensaje  se ha enviado desde Medellín, Colombia
>>> *10 Años usando exitosamente OpenOffice.org  libre, seguro y abierto*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/9/29 George Galt 
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Volker Merschmann 
 wrote:
 > Hi,
 >
 > 2010/9/28 George Galt :
 >> Is this the correct forum for posting questions on building
 >> LibreOffice from source?
 >>
 >> Thanks,
 >>
 >> George
 > This is the only mailinglist at this moment, please ask.
 >
 > Volker
 >
 >
 > --
 > ++ Volker Merschmann - Content Developer OpenOffice.org
 > ++ Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows -- http://de.openoffice.org/
 > --
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 cannot be deleted.
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 >
 >

 I'm on Fedora 13 x86_64.  I followed the instructions here:
 http://www.documentfoundation.org/develop/

 FYI, for me, I needed to also install libXaw-devel even after
 yum-depbuild for openoffice, I also needed to alter the auto-gen
 command to: ./autogen.sh --with-distro=LibreOfficeLinux --with-git
 --with-num-cpus=2 --without-junit  because I was getting complaints
 that make couldn't find "Junit 4".

 Now, however, I'm stuck.  Running make ends with the following:

 8 module(s):
tomcat
beanshell
hsqldb
rhino
saxon
lucene
qadevOOo
xmerge
 need(s) to be rebuilt

 Reason(s):

 ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
 /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/rhino
 ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making

 /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/xmerge/source/xmerge
 ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
 /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/lucene
 ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
 /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/tomcat
 ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
 /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/saxon
 ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
 /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/beanshell
 ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
 /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/hsqldb
 ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
 /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/qadevOOo

 Attention: if you fix the errors in above module(s) you may prolongue
 your the build issuing command:

build --from tomcat beanshell hsqldb rhino saxon lucene qadevOOo
 xmerge

 make: *** [stamp/build] Error 1

 Any thoughts on where to go?

 George
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>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Alexandro Colorado*
>> *OpenOffice.org* Español
>> http://es.openoffice.org
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Correct Forum for Build Questions

[Danishka Navin]

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Luis E Vásquez r 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Medellin, sep 29/2010
>>
>> Hi, people
>>
>> All day was  testing  LOo in different environments and multiple files and
>> I'm really happy with the result,  among other relevant langpack install
>> OOo, both French and Spanish  work fine.
>>
>>
> Great news Luis, keep up the good work. We will probably need to setup a
> TCM similar to the one in OOo or request it to the community.
> The previous TCM is located here, it looks somehow basic, maybe building a
> new TCM with better look and feel.
>
> http://www.sunvirtuallab.com:8001/tcm2/opensource/tcm_login.cgi?tcm_config=newooo
>


please try to integrate Pootle, TCM and QAtrack if possible.
At least TCM and QAtrack. there are communities that lack of people to l10n
and QA.
As we are doing these for each and every major and minor release, these
integrations make them much easier.


Best Regards,
-- 
Danishka Navin
http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com



>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Luis E. Vásquez R.
>> OpenOffice.org Volunteer & Support
>> Este mensaje  se ha enviado desde Medellín, Colombia
>> *10 Años usando exitosamente OpenOffice.org  libre, seguro y abierto*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2010/9/29 George Galt 
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Volker Merschmann 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > 2010/9/28 George Galt :
>>> >> Is this the correct forum for posting questions on building
>>> >> LibreOffice from source?
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >>
>>> >> George
>>> > This is the only mailinglist at this moment, please ask.
>>> >
>>> > Volker
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > ++ Volker Merschmann - Content Developer OpenOffice.org
>>> > ++ Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows -- http://de.openoffice.org/
>>> > --
>>> > To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to
>>> discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org
>>> > All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot
>>> be deleted.
>>> > List archives are available at
>>> http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> I'm on Fedora 13 x86_64.  I followed the instructions here:
>>> http://www.documentfoundation.org/develop/
>>>
>>> FYI, for me, I needed to also install libXaw-devel even after
>>> yum-depbuild for openoffice, I also needed to alter the auto-gen
>>> command to: ./autogen.sh --with-distro=LibreOfficeLinux --with-git
>>> --with-num-cpus=2 --without-junit  because I was getting complaints
>>> that make couldn't find "Junit 4".
>>>
>>> Now, however, I'm stuck.  Running make ends with the following:
>>>
>>> 8 module(s):
>>>tomcat
>>>beanshell
>>>hsqldb
>>>rhino
>>>saxon
>>>lucene
>>>qadevOOo
>>>xmerge
>>> need(s) to be rebuilt
>>>
>>> Reason(s):
>>>
>>> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
>>> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/rhino
>>> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
>>>
>>> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/xmerge/source/xmerge
>>> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
>>> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/lucene
>>> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
>>> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/tomcat
>>> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
>>> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/saxon
>>> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
>>> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/beanshell
>>> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
>>> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/hsqldb
>>> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
>>> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/qadevOOo
>>>
>>> Attention: if you fix the errors in above module(s) you may prolongue
>>> your the build issuing command:
>>>
>>>build --from tomcat beanshell hsqldb rhino saxon lucene qadevOOo
>>> xmerge
>>>
>>> make: *** [stamp/build] Error 1
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on where to go?
>>>
>>> George
>>> --
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>>
>
>
> --
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> http://es.openoffice.org
>
>

[tdf-discuss] SVG file for the LibreOffice logo

[Alexandro Colorado]

Hi I wonder if it's possible to have an SVG version of the LibreOffice to
create some artwork.

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*OpenOffice.org* Español
http://es.openoffice.org

Re: [tdf-discuss] Getting up to speed

[Danishka Navin]

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Jeff Causey wrote:
>
>>  Hi Everyone!
>>
>> Been a (mostly) lurker on the OOo marketing related lists for a while with
>> some very minor contributions.  I fall pretty firmly in the end user
>> category.  Just a congrats to those who have been involved in helping the
>> community take this step.  Not sure what I may be able to do to help out,
>> but I'm here and ready if needed.
>>
>
> The less technical thing to do is to donate money through paypal.
>
>

+1
and spreading the work about TDF, and get more people in to this familly.

>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Jeff Causey
>> --
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>
>
> --
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> http://es.openoffice.org
>
>


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Re: [tdf-discuss] CD/DVD labels

[Alexandro Colorado]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Jason Komar  wrote:

> Has anyone done any work on CD/DVD labels for LibreOffice yet? If not, is
> there any artwork available such as logo graphics, etc. so we could roll our
> own?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason Komar
>

I requested the SVG logo of libreoffice but there was no respond to it yet.

-- 
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*OpenOffice.org* Español
http://es.openoffice.org

[tdf-discuss] CD/DVD labels

[Jason Komar]

Has anyone done any work on CD/DVD labels for LibreOffice yet? If not, is there 
any artwork available such as logo graphics, etc. so we could roll our own?

Thanks,
Jason Komar

Re: [tdf-discuss] Getting up to speed

[Alexandro Colorado]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Jeff Causey wrote:

>  Hi Everyone!
>
> Been a (mostly) lurker on the OOo marketing related lists for a while with
> some very minor contributions.  I fall pretty firmly in the end user
> category.  Just a congrats to those who have been involved in helping the
> community take this step.  Not sure what I may be able to do to help out,
> but I'm here and ready if needed.
>

The less technical thing to do is to donate money through paypal.


>
> Thanks!
>
> Jeff Causey
> --
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>
>


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Correct Forum for Build Questions

[Alexandro Colorado]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Luis E Vásquez r wrote:

>
> Medellin, sep 29/2010
>
> Hi, people
>
> All day was  testing  LOo in different environments and multiple files and I'm
> really happy with the result,  among other relevant langpack install OOo,
> both French and Spanish  work fine.
>
>
Great news Luis, keep up the good work. We will probably need to setup a TCM
similar to the one in OOo or request it to the community.
The previous TCM is located here, it looks somehow basic, maybe building a
new TCM with better look and feel.
http://www.sunvirtuallab.com:8001/tcm2/opensource/tcm_login.cgi?tcm_config=newooo


>
>
> Best Regards,
> Luis E. Vásquez R.
> OpenOffice.org Volunteer & Support
> Este mensaje  se ha enviado desde Medellín, Colombia
> *10 Años usando exitosamente OpenOffice.org  libre, seguro y abierto*
>
>
>
>
> 2010/9/29 George Galt 
>
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Volker Merschmann 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > 2010/9/28 George Galt :
>> >> Is this the correct forum for posting questions on building
>> >> LibreOffice from source?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> George
>> > This is the only mailinglist at this moment, please ask.
>> >
>> > Volker
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > ++ Volker Merschmann - Content Developer OpenOffice.org
>> > ++ Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows -- http://de.openoffice.org/
>> > --
>> > To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to
>> discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org
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>> be deleted.
>> > List archives are available at
>> http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I'm on Fedora 13 x86_64.  I followed the instructions here:
>> http://www.documentfoundation.org/develop/
>>
>> FYI, for me, I needed to also install libXaw-devel even after
>> yum-depbuild for openoffice, I also needed to alter the auto-gen
>> command to: ./autogen.sh --with-distro=LibreOfficeLinux --with-git
>> --with-num-cpus=2 --without-junit  because I was getting complaints
>> that make couldn't find "Junit 4".
>>
>> Now, however, I'm stuck.  Running make ends with the following:
>>
>> 8 module(s):
>>tomcat
>>beanshell
>>hsqldb
>>rhino
>>saxon
>>lucene
>>qadevOOo
>>xmerge
>> need(s) to be rebuilt
>>
>> Reason(s):
>>
>> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
>> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/rhino
>> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
>>
>> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/xmerge/source/xmerge
>> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
>> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/lucene
>> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
>> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/tomcat
>> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
>> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/saxon
>> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
>> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/beanshell
>> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
>> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/hsqldb
>> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
>> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/qadevOOo
>>
>> Attention: if you fix the errors in above module(s) you may prolongue
>> your the build issuing command:
>>
>>build --from tomcat beanshell hsqldb rhino saxon lucene qadevOOo
>> xmerge
>>
>> make: *** [stamp/build] Error 1
>>
>> Any thoughts on where to go?
>>
>> George
>> --
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>> deleted.
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>


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Explanation . . . ?

[Nancy Ward]

?

From: Steven Shelton 
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 8:57 AM
To: discuss@documentfoundation.org 
Subject: [tdf-discuss] Explanation . . . ?



And is LibreOffice Beta the same as OpenOffice.org 3.3 Beta 1, but
rebranded? What's the relationship between the two?

This has GOT to be confusing to the average user. I've been fairly
involved in OOo for years, and *I'm* confused about what's happening
here. Can someone clear this up a bit?

Steve, I received the email about The Document Foundation and pretty much 
understood what's going on.  Well, almost. At any rate, I knew that TDF was 
"going out on its own" for whatever the reasoning. Since I like open source 
(which means to me no huge companies steering the rowboat), I decided to jump 
in and download. 

Although this is the first time in a few years I've tried Libre(open)Office, it 
has made strides in the right direction. Now if I could only get some 
documentation . . . It wouldn't download for me today from openoffice.org.

Nancy Ward
Windows 8 Beta Ferret<>

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice general ideas and suggestions

[Nancy Ward]



From: Joe Rotello 
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 7:23 AM
To: discuss@documentfoundation.org 
Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice general ideas and suggestions


2. The discuss@documentfoundation.org NEEDS to at least offer the option 
to allow users to receive one or two "all messages" combined Email 
(usually called Digest option) instead of so many separate Emails being 
received by all of us.

How and where would this be accomplished at the 
discuss@documentfoundation.org website ?

Speaking ofdisc...@documentfoundation.org messages, would it not be a 
good idea to have in the message Subject line the OS or specific topic 
that the message pertains to ?  Such as "Win 7", "Windows 64bit", 
"Fedora", "Mac OS", or "Libre Wordprocessor" and so forth. That way, we 
all know exactly what OS or topic that the message is referring to.

Joe
Knoxville, TN / USA
..
Joe, sorry to barge in here, but I've been laying off to try Open Office, and 
when I got the LibreOffice email, I decided it's time to try it. I'm all for 
open source and moving Open Office away from Oracle.

However, I am totally confused! I've been beta testing for Microsoft for 
several years, and there are Forums where things are discussed, depending on 
the subject. I hate Forums, and I'm sorry, but this is even worse!

Is there anything like discussion forums online where I could go to see the 
messages in subject form so I wouldn't be so totally lost?

BTW, I started using LibreOffice Writer today, and it's great. Quite comparable 
to Microsoft Word 2010. 

Nancy Ward
Windows 8 Beta Ferret

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mailist and usenet discussion list

[Marc Paré]

 Le 2010-09-29 10:29, Florian Effenberger a écrit :

we've already registered on GMANE and wait for the lists to appear there.
Florian

BTW, Florian, I had forgotten to thank you for using the 
"___...@documentfoundation.org" email address. We can now tell who is 
part of the core group by their email address and it also adds 
"official" weight to your requests. This helps quite a bit from our 
(community) point of vue. It adds clarity.


Marc


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Correct Forum for Build Questions

[Luis E Vásquez r]

Medellin, sep 29/2010

Hi, people

All day was  testing  LOo in different environments and multiple files and I'm
really happy with the result,  among other relevant langpack install OOo,
both French and Spanish  work fine.



Best Regards,
Luis E. Vásquez R.
OpenOffice.org Volunteer & Support
Este mensaje  se ha enviado desde Medellín, Colombia
*10 Años usando exitosamente OpenOffice.org  libre, seguro y abierto*




2010/9/29 George Galt 

> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Volker Merschmann 
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > 2010/9/28 George Galt :
> >> Is this the correct forum for posting questions on building
> >> LibreOffice from source?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> George
> > This is the only mailinglist at this moment, please ask.
> >
> > Volker
> >
> >
> > --
> > ++ Volker Merschmann - Content Developer OpenOffice.org
> > ++ Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows -- http://de.openoffice.org/
> > --
> > To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to
> discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org
> > All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot
> be deleted.
> > List archives are available at
> http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
> >
> >
>
> I'm on Fedora 13 x86_64.  I followed the instructions here:
> http://www.documentfoundation.org/develop/
>
> FYI, for me, I needed to also install libXaw-devel even after
> yum-depbuild for openoffice, I also needed to alter the auto-gen
> command to: ./autogen.sh --with-distro=LibreOfficeLinux --with-git
> --with-num-cpus=2 --without-junit  because I was getting complaints
> that make couldn't find "Junit 4".
>
> Now, however, I'm stuck.  Running make ends with the following:
>
> 8 module(s):
>tomcat
>beanshell
>hsqldb
>rhino
>saxon
>lucene
>qadevOOo
>xmerge
> need(s) to be rebuilt
>
> Reason(s):
>
> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/rhino
> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/xmerge/source/xmerge
> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/lucene
> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/tomcat
> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/saxon
> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/beanshell
> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/hsqldb
> ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
> /home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/qadevOOo
>
> Attention: if you fix the errors in above module(s) you may prolongue
> your the build issuing command:
>
>build --from tomcat beanshell hsqldb rhino saxon lucene qadevOOo
> xmerge
>
> make: *** [stamp/build] Error 1
>
> Any thoughts on where to go?
>
> George
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[tdf-discuss] Getting up to speed

[Jeff Causey]

 Hi Everyone!

Been a (mostly) lurker on the OOo marketing related lists for a while 
with some very minor contributions.  I fall pretty firmly in the end 
user category.  Just a congrats to those who have been involved in 
helping the community take this step.  Not sure what I may be able to do 
to help out, but I'm here and ready if needed.


Thanks!

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Installing Libre Office

[Graham Weir]

 Also thanks for the advice - but I should have said I run Windows XP64 
(I know ... I also run Ubuntu 10.04 as a dual boot)


/*Graham Weir :-)

*/

On 30/09/2010 12:46 p.m., Andy Brown wrote:

On Wed Sep 29 2010 15:24:54 GMT-0700 (PDT)  Marc Paré wrote:

 Le 2010-09-29 17:59, Andy Brown a écrit :

On Wed Sep 29 2010 14:31:59 GMT-0700 (PDT)  Graham Weir wrote:
 I installed Libre Office to try out.  Already have/had Open Office 
3.2.1 and thought naively that I could run both together.  NO!  
Libre promptly uninstalled Open Office in favour of itself (Oh 
bugger!- a New Zealand expression...)  So I am now in the process 
of uninstalling Libre, re-installing Open Office and wondering what 
next..

Why can I not have both?  Oh well, back to Open Office fornow.


Try 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Run_OOo_versions_parallel 
tells how to run several versions.


Andy
LibreOffice should not remove any OpenOffice rpm versions as it has a 
different name. Here is an installation guide for Freedesktop, 
Mandriva, RedHat and Suse that I posted earlier:




I agree that no beta should over write an installed version.  As I 
stated yesterday, I feel that no software should install over another 
version unless told to be the operator.  Anyone should be able to 
install any number of copies without having to jump through hoops to 
do so.  Just my 2 cents.


Thanks for the info but I run Ubuntu 09.10.

Andy

Re: [tdf-discuss] Installing Libre Office

[Andy Brown]

On Wed Sep 29 2010 15:24:54 GMT-0700 (PDT)  Marc Paré wrote:

 Le 2010-09-29 17:59, Andy Brown a écrit :

On Wed Sep 29 2010 14:31:59 GMT-0700 (PDT)  Graham Weir wrote:
 I installed Libre Office to try out.  Already have/had Open Office 
3.2.1 and thought naively that I could run both together.  NO!  Libre 
promptly uninstalled Open Office in favour of itself (Oh bugger!- 
a New Zealand expression...)  So I am now in the process of 
uninstalling Libre, re-installing Open Office and wondering what next.

Why can I not have both?  Oh well, back to Open Office fornow.


Try http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Run_OOo_versions_parallel 
tells how to run several versions.


Andy
LibreOffice should not remove any OpenOffice rpm versions as it has a 
different name. Here is an installation guide for Freedesktop, Mandriva, 
RedHat and Suse that I posted earlier:




I agree that no beta should over write an installed version.  As I 
stated yesterday, I feel that no software should install over another 
version unless told to be the operator.  Anyone should be able to 
install any number of copies without having to jump through hoops to do 
so.  Just my 2 cents.


Thanks for the info but I run Ubuntu 09.10.

Andy
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Installing Libre Office

[Andy Brown]

On Wed Sep 29 2010 15:49:02 GMT-0700 (PDT)  Lane Lester wrote:

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:


Other guides like installing on Ubuntu through Alien are being written now.



I hope this is just a temporary bandage. Ubuntu, its many derivatives, and
the other Debian-based distros are too large a part of the market to stick
with an RPM>DEB conversion before installation.

Lane


There is are DEB packages already 
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/ .  As stated 
yesterday I do not now why they are not linked in unless they are not 
done testing them.


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Re: [tdf-discuss] dvd/cd-rom

[Andy Brown]

On Wed Sep 29 2010 15:43:43 GMT-0700 (PDT)  Erich Christian wrote:

Hi Andy, *

Good to hear  :-)
There's a different situation in our case, the german dvd/cd-roms use a
complex GUI in xhtml (win disks come with an onboard k-meleon browser
and installation feature via menu) and would need a complete redesign of
CSS and content for 3.3 and we can hardly handle both - so we agreed to
concentrate on LO for now.

We are thinking of a new maybe CMS based structure of the GUI which is
exported on demand on a disk and should be easy to translate and filled
with localized content - useful for all.

Naturally the english version is in place for a prototype and the
content is on your isos already. The new GUI could be very basic with
just necessary text for it could easily be approved even step by step
via CSS.

Once we have localized versions of LO the language teams could manage
their texts and content on paralell versions of the localized GUI and
folder tree online and export a static snapshot-iso on demand.

Looking forward to your comments and a better cooperation ever.

Erich


Hi Erich,

Here I download the ISOs and extract them.  The clip art that comes with 
 the ISOs is to bulky and needs a lot of clean up, which I do not have 
time to do.  For Mac and Linux versions I put both available versions 
and the documents from the OOAuthors site on the disk.  For the Windows 
version I add the documents and leave the clip art to help fill the 
disk.  I have been thinking of building an html page to provide links to 
online help sites and to point to the documents.


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Join in of the TechTeam from OpenOffice.org Switzerland

[Raphael Bircher]

 Hi Andreas

Am 30.09.10 00:22, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

Goran Rakic wrote:

QATrack was developed by Per Eriksson, he is a Sweden native-language
project co-lead[3], is this code available?

QATrack until 1.0 was written by me and released under LGPL>= 2.1, with
copyright shared by me and Sun (I signed the JCA several years ago and
this qualifies as a contribution to the OOo project and is thus covered
by the JCA).

Then Per took over and wrote 2.0 and the following versions.

As far as I know, the QATrack sources for 1.0 and 2.0 (but I cannot find
the most recent ones there) were contributed to the QA CVS repository:
http://qa.openoffice.org/source/browse/qa/qatrack/ and actually
http://qatrack.services.openoffice.org/about.php still points to it (see
footer).
Maybe this is not a bad idea. Well I don't know QATrack well, but if 
it's possible to simply write a module for QATrack, it would be great. I 
mean, it's probabely the fastest way to get a good result. I will write 
down a small concept for the first version soon.


I was finding also same other tools who are already finished. A list 
from QA Tools are under http://www.opensourcetesting.org/testmgt.php


But we want a simple tool who makes everyone able tu do tests. Moast of 
the tools on this site are to complicate. I think we have not a big 
chance to find a tool who is directly ready to use. I think we will have 
a simple tool with spezific whishs. But I don't want to write a complet 
new tool.


Greetings Raphael


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Licence

[Rene Engelhard]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 07:58:36AM +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
> Is there a plan to move from the LGPL to the GPL for the code base ?

You can't really put all of the code base under GPL; as there are a few public
libraries you should be able to link to even from non-free stuff (extensions,
utilities, ...)

Grüße/Regards,

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Installing Libre Office

[Lane Lester]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:

> Other guides like installing on Ubuntu through Alien are being written now.


I hope this is just a temporary bandage. Ubuntu, its many derivatives, and
the other Debian-based distros are too large a part of the market to stick
with an RPM>DEB conversion before installation.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] dvd/cd-rom

[Erich Christian]

Hi Andy, *

Am 29.09.2010 16:06, schrieb Andy Brown:
> On Wed Sep 29 2010 05:42:27 GMT-0700 (PDT)  Erich Christian wrote:
>> Have there been any thoughts about establishing a DVD/CD-rom project?

> I can not speak for others but as a member of the OOo CD-Rom project I
> am ready to provide LO disk as well, when LO is out of Beta.  Until such
> time as Oracle makes up their mind how this will play out I will support
> both LO and OOo.

Good to hear  :-)
There's a different situation in our case, the german dvd/cd-roms use a
complex GUI in xhtml (win disks come with an onboard k-meleon browser
and installation feature via menu) and would need a complete redesign of
CSS and content for 3.3 and we can hardly handle both - so we agreed to
concentrate on LO for now.

We are thinking of a new maybe CMS based structure of the GUI which is
exported on demand on a disk and should be easy to translate and filled
with localized content - useful for all.

Naturally the english version is in place for a prototype and the
content is on your isos already. The new GUI could be very basic with
just necessary text for it could easily be approved even step by step
via CSS.

Once we have localized versions of LO the language teams could manage
their texts and content on paralell versions of the localized GUI and
folder tree online and export a static snapshot-iso on demand.

Looking forward to your comments and a better cooperation ever.

Erich
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Installing Libre Office

[Marc Paré]

 Le 2010-09-29 17:59, Andy Brown a écrit :

On Wed Sep 29 2010 14:31:59 GMT-0700 (PDT)  Graham Weir wrote:
 I installed Libre Office to try out.  Already have/had Open Office 
3.2.1 and thought naively that I could run both together.  NO!  Libre 
promptly uninstalled Open Office in favour of itself (Oh bugger!- 
a New Zealand expression...)  So I am now in the process of 
uninstalling Libre, re-installing Open Office and wondering what next.

Why can I not have both?  Oh well, back to Open Office fornow.


Try http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Run_OOo_versions_parallel 
tells how to run several versions.


Andy
LibreOffice should not remove any OpenOffice rpm versions as it has a 
different name. Here is an installation guide for Freedesktop, Mandriva, 
RedHat and Suse that I posted earlier:


 Just wanted to make note of the following. If you plan on installing 
the LibreOffice v. 3.3 beta on linux, here are some steps that could 
help you do an easier install if you are not used to using too much of 
the console and prompt.


Install process:

Intallation (based on a KDE desktop Mandriva 2010.1)
===

1. download LibreOffice from http://www.documentfoundation.org to your 
"downloads" folder into a folder called "LibreOffice"

2. open Konsole
3. do $su -
4. enter root password
5. do #dolphin
6. browse to the "LibreOffice" folder in the "downloads" folder
7. right-click on the LibreOffice file and choose extract archive here
8. once extracted double-click on folder "en-Us" and then "RPMS" and 
then "desktop-integration"

9. in Dolphin do F3 (this will split screen your window)
10.  click in the right window once and click on the "UP" arrow in the 
main menu bar up-above in Dolphin
11. you will now have the left window "desktop-integration" and right 
"RPMS" windows open
12. in the left window drag the 
libreoffice3.3-mandriva-menus-3.3-9526.noarch.rpm file to the RPMS 
window and choose "Copy" **
13. in Dolphin do F3 and use the "UP" arrow till you are back at the 
level where you see the "licenses", "readme", "RPMS" folders

14. right-click on folder RPMS and choose Action-Open Konsole
15. Konsole wil now open with a #
16. in Konsole do #rpm -Uvih *rpm
17. wait till all the packages have installed

-- ** for step 12 -- Note that if you are on Freedesktop drag the 
corresponding file instead; if you are on RedHat drag the corresponding 
file instead; if you are on Suse drag corresponding file instead


You will now have the LibreOffice v. 3.3.0 Beta installed and in your 
Mandriva menu. However, your menu items do not work. To setup your 
Mandriva menu, right click on the "Mandriva" start button (taskbar 
button with the star) and choose "Edit Menu". Find the LibreOffice icon 
(in Office) and click on it once; the right-hand window of the editing 
window will become active and choose "Command" -- click on the folder 
icon and browse to the Opt/libreoffice3 etc. till you find the right 
corresponding command file. Do the same for all of the other sets of the 
LibreOffice icons in the start menu. My opinion, I just set the 
LibreOffice icon and you don't really need the rest and this main window 
will give you access to all other parts of the LibreOffice Suite.


Hope this helps those who wish to try the LibreOffice v.3.3. beta. 
Remember, that this is a beta and may have some hiccups along the way. 
The look and feel of the suite has still not been polished.


Marc

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Join in of the TechTeam from OpenOffice.org Switzerland

[Andrea Pescetti]

Goran Rakic wrote:
> QATrack was developed by Per Eriksson, he is a Sweden native-language
> project co-lead[3], is this code available?

QATrack until 1.0 was written by me and released under LGPL >= 2.1, with
copyright shared by me and Sun (I signed the JCA several years ago and
this qualifies as a contribution to the OOo project and is thus covered
by the JCA).

Then Per took over and wrote 2.0 and the following versions.

As far as I know, the QATrack sources for 1.0 and 2.0 (but I cannot find
the most recent ones there) were contributed to the QA CVS repository:
http://qa.openoffice.org/source/browse/qa/qatrack/ and actually
http://qatrack.services.openoffice.org/about.php still points to it (see
footer).

Best regards,
  Andrea Pescetti.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Installing Libre Office

[Deniz Öğüt]

Hello Dear Friends,

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Graham Weir  wrote:

>  I installed Libre Office to try out.  Already have/had Open Office 3.2.1
>> and thought naively that I could run both together.  NO!  Libre promptly
>> uninstalled Open Office in favour of itself
>>
>
>
I think this is a operating system or distro related problem. About an hour
ago I installed LibreOffice 3.3.0 on my GNU/Linux system (Ubuntu 9.10,
Karmic) and the OpenOffice.org 3.1.1 installation stays untouched.


On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:

> Other guides like installing on Ubuntu through Alien are being written now.
>

As I mentioned, I installed Libreoffice on Ubuntu Karmic. First I had
problems to install it via Alian way. Then, again, I was not succesful to
compile it from the source and I asked the friends on Freenode
#documentfoundation . They helped me to find the addresss of the deb package
(its a little bit "hidden") and then things went on almost trouble-free. (A
very short guide might be useful to be on the safe side.) I don't get the
point in distributing RPMs and advicing the Alien way. Why don't we put the
.deb link to the main download page? Is there something that I miss?

Redards,

K. Deniz Öğüt
Istanbul / Turkey

Re: [tdf-discuss] Installing Libre Office

[Andy Brown]

On Wed Sep 29 2010 14:31:59 GMT-0700 (PDT)  Graham Weir wrote:
 I installed Libre Office to try out.  Already have/had Open Office 
3.2.1 and thought naively that I could run both together.  NO!  Libre 
promptly uninstalled Open Office in favour of itself (Oh bugger!- a 
New Zealand expression...)  So I am now in the process of uninstalling 
Libre, re-installing Open Office and wondering what next.

Why can I not have both?  Oh well, back to Open Office fornow.


Try http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Run_OOo_versions_parallel 
tells how to run several versions.


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Join in of the TechTeam from OpenOffice.org Switzerland

[Goran Rakic]

У сре, 29. 09 2010. у 22:22 +0200, Raphael Bircher пише:
> For first we will make samething like the TCM who is already know from
> the OOo project. The first Version will be very simple. I'm not sure,
> if we can use this first version on the first release of LO, but we
> doing our best!

Hi Raphael, all


Is there any planned development on this item?
Something that others can join in?

What about code written by Helge Delfs[1] from Sun/Oracle on top of
Joomla used for QUASTe and the planned TCM-QUASTe merge[2] moving TCM
features into QUASTe, is that available somewhere?

QATrack was developed by Per Eriksson, he is a Sweden native-language
project co-lead[3], is this code available?
 
[1] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:Hde
[2] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/TCM_Integration_to_QUASTe
[3] http://sv.openoffice.org/about/

Kind regards,
Goran Rakic



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Re: [tdf-discuss] website improvements

[mak]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Carolina Flores Hine  wrote:

>
> > Hello,
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Florian Effenberger <
> > flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
> >
> >> the documentfoundation.org website currently is static HTML, that is
> >> being
> >> created with PHP files. We'll switch over to some CMS soon.
>
> Who will do that?
>
> Let us do it. I can do all the ugly work of copying and pasting texts (for
> a website like that, it's better to do that). I can translate into Spanish
> too and find more help for other languages.
>
>

Anyone said, "Translation"  :)

I can translate the static site, into Bengali.

regards
mak_
Bangladesh.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Installing Libre Office

[Graham Weir]

 Aha!   Did not know that

I now await the instructions with interest.

/*Graham Weir */ 8-)
/*
*/On 30/09/2010 10:34 a.m., Alexandro Colorado wrote:



On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Graham Weir > wrote:


I installed Libre Office to try out.  Already have/had Open Office
3.2.1 and thought naively that I could run both together.  NO! 
Libre promptly uninstalled Open Office in favour of itself (Oh

bugger!- a New Zealand expression...)  So I am now in the process
of uninstalling Libre, re-installing Open Office and wondering
what next.
Why can I not have both?  Oh well, back to Open Office fornow.
-- 
/*Graham Weir :'(


*/


There was a guide to do parallel installations on the list. The guide 
was written previously on this ML, we would probably put a link from 
the download page tho this guide.


Other guides like installing on Ubuntu through Alien are being written 
now.


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Installing Libre Office

[Alexandro Colorado]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Graham Weir  wrote:

>  I installed Libre Office to try out.  Already have/had Open Office 3.2.1
> and thought naively that I could run both together.  NO!  Libre promptly
> uninstalled Open Office in favour of itself  (Oh bugger!- a New
> Zealand expression...)  So I am now in the process of uninstalling Libre,
> re-installing Open Office and wondering what next.
> Why can I not have both?  Oh well, back to Open Office fornow.
> --
> *Graham Weir  :'(
>
> *
>

There was a guide to do parallel installations on the list. The guide was
written previously on this ML, we would probably put a link from the
download page tho this guide.

Other guides like installing on Ubuntu through Alien are being written now.

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[tdf-discuss] Installing Libre Office

[Graham Weir]

 I installed Libre Office to try out.  Already have/had Open Office 
3.2.1 and thought naively that I could run both together.  NO!  Libre 
promptly uninstalled Open Office in favour of itself (Oh bugger!- a 
New Zealand expression...)  So I am now in the process of uninstalling 
Libre, re-installing Open Office and wondering what next.

Why can I not have both?  Oh well, back to Open Office fornow.
--
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*/

[tdf-discuss] Join in of the TechTeam from OpenOffice.org Switzerland

[Raphael Bircher]

 Hi all

I'm happy to announce that the TechTeam of OpenOffice.org Switzerland 
join the LibreOffice community. We have a young partnership with a 
informatik school in Limbe (Cameroon, Africa) In collaboration with this 
school we will help to setup the QA for LO. We have a menpower of about 
6 peoples (not folltime.


Unfortunaly we have to start without any workflow or tooling for QA. So 
the first thing that we have to do is zu make a nice tooling. For first 
we will make samething like the TCM who is already know from the OOo 
project. The first Version will be very simple. I'm not sure, if we can 
use this first version on the first release of LO, but we doing our best!


For the first time we will have a look of every outgoing version, but we 
need allso the help of the developers. If you have risky code commits, 
please contact use, so we can take a closer look. We are allways ready 
for tests.


Of a good collaboration
Raphael

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Re: [tdf-discuss] website improvements

[Andy Brown]

On Wed Sep 29 2010 13:03:16 GMT-0700 (PDT)  Robert Holmes wrote:

I am a Drupal person that Jon Zasch mentioned to us in the community that you 
guys may be moving towards a CMS and that Drupal could work for you.  I will 
mention that Drupal does localization right out of the box and with a few 
contributed modules you could have a fully localized solution.

Will keep monitoring the list and chime in as needed :-)

Robbie (The Geek) Holmes


Robert,

Can you contact me off list, I would like to get more information from 
you on Drupal.


Thanks
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Less private :-) Re: privatmail (war: Re: [tdf-discuss] website improvements)

[Christoph Noack]

Hi Danishka, all,

I'm sorry for having picked the wrong email address this morning. Of
course, the content of my mail is not confidential at all ;-) It just
says that I'm back in a day and try to ask the other guys how they
feel ... or how to kick-off website improvements. My problem was, that I
had to go because of my day job waiting for me ... so a mail to a friend
member seemed a quick solution. Seemed ;-)

What this mail also said - and it seems to be absolutely true with
regard to some other website mail thread - that I'm absolutely happy
about all these proposals and offers for help. It feels great that the
overall idea of the foundation is so well received. So, to *anybody* my
deepest thanks.

Back to the topic of the website. I had a quick discussion with Florian
(who also additionally manages many of the press requests, btw) and we
have the following proposal...

At the moment, we would like to think a bit about the requirements for a
new infrastructure including a website. For example, it would be great
to have some kind of Single-Sign-On for all the required services ...
although it would be a dream to reduce the overall complexity, our
project is large and we will need different infrastructure bits and
pieces. Size is also a challenge ... we will have to cope with a lot of
content and therefore stability is an important thing.

We propose to wait a few more days until we can breathe again (*g*) ...
to join the discussion. Of course, that does not stop anybody from
thinking. I would be just great if those (who are interested) can make
up a small team and collect ideas or wishes for the infrastructure and
maybe propose how to address it.

The only thing that's missing at the moment is a dedicated wiki, so that
you can share ideas. (A mailing list shouldn't be the problem ...
mmmh ... I should bother Florian again). For the rest, I propose to use
the OpenOffice.org Wiki (still, we are the community of OpenOffice.org).

Another good question is, whether Oracle will support us and e.g.
provide the trademark. Until we have the answer, it would be a pity to
create a lot of design content that might get lost ... let's focus on
that once we have the answer. What do you think?

Is this something you all can live with at the moment? Is there someone
who can start a small Wiki page for that?

Again, it is just great to be with you ... :-)

Christoph

Am Mittwoch, den 29.09.2010, 18:45 +0530 schrieb Danishka Navin:
> Dear Christoph and Volker,
> 
> I am really sorry if any of heart from my mail.
> 
> We also can give a feedback if we can understand it. :)
> 
> Danishka
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Volker Merschmann
>  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Christoph failed in sending the mail direct to my address
> We will continue in private mail thread as the subject
> suggests
> 
> Bye
> 
> Volker
> 
> 2010/9/29 Danishka Navin :
> 
> > since this mailing list is global one, highly appreciate if
> you could
> > communicate in English :)
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Christoph Noack
> 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Volker,
> >>
> >> sorry für die kurze Mail ... ich habe Deine Anfrage mal an
> das interne
> >> Team weiter geleitet. Die Webseite selbst und so
> unterliegen bestimmten
> >> Randbedingungen - die soll irgendwann ohnehin mal in ein
> CMS überführt
> >> werden. Ich finde es aber _extrem_ genial wie die aktuellen
> >> Rückmeldungen und Unterstützungsangebote sind ... wäre es
> also okay,
> >> wenn ich Dich/Euch noch einen Tag warten lasse mit 'ner
> Antwort? Dann
> >> weiß ich mehr ...
> >>
> >> Liebe Grüße,
> >> Christoph
> >>
> >>
> >> Am Mittwoch, den 29.09.2010, 07:14 +0200 schrieb Volker
> Merschmann:
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > I think before we are starting individual changes, we
> should form a
> >> > website team/project for some coordinated work. And there
> will be much
> >> > of it.
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> >
> >> > Volker
> >> >
> >> > 2010/9/29 Jonathan Zacsh :
> >> > > I'm a drupal developer and can safely say its no drupal
> site. Though
> >> > > I'd be _happy_ to help build out a drupal site for this
> project (and
> >> > > I'm sure I could get _plenty_ more NYC drupal community
> members
> >> > > involved).
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Jonathan Zacsh
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 00:50, Alexandro Colorado
> 
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Jonat

Re: [tdf-discuss] website improvements

[Andy Brown]

On Wed Sep 29 2010 12:54:00 GMT-0700 (PDT)  Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi Andy,

Am 29.09.2010 um 21:16 schrieb Andy Brown:


Anyone who has had to manage even a small project can realize this is going to 
take time.  I agree that there needs to be more people to help coordinate this. 
 I have the greatest confidence in Florian but he is only one person and can 
not do everything.


thanks for the kind words. ;) We're working hard on everything, and we will 
soon see some improvements.

Florian



If there is any way I can help let me know, you have my direct address. 
:)  Looking into the DNS issue.


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Re: [tdf-discuss] website improvements

[Robert Holmes]

I am a Drupal person that Jon Zasch mentioned to us in the community that you 
guys may be moving towards a CMS and that Drupal could work for you.  I will 
mention that Drupal does localization right out of the box and with a few 
contributed modules you could have a fully localized solution.

Will keep monitoring the list and chime in as needed :-)

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On Sep 29, 2010, at 2:59 PM, Carolina Flores Hine wrote:

>>> 2010/9/29 Danishka Navin 
>>> 
 Hi Joaquà n,
 
 On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Joaquà n Bruno Huete
 wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> I am new in here but if for this translations there is no need of a
> high
> computer literacy I can offer my help with the Spanish version if
> neccesary.
> 
> 
 I am sure, the Spanish community  will help you. :)
 
>>> 
>> I think Florian is doing  a great job and trying to cope with all the
>> development going on on the list. But as soon as we move to CMS we could
>> have more flexibility with localizing the site.
> 
 Regards
> 
>> --
>> *Alexandro Colorado*
>> *OpenOffice.org* Español
>> http://es.openoffice.org
>> 
> 
> I'm trying to imagine how it may be to receive all this e-mails saying "I
> want to help". It takes a lot of effort to manage and coordinate all our
> enthusiasm so... maybe there's a possibility to name an "area coordinator"
> for marketing and communications (I'm just saying a name...) so we all can
> be helpful instead of impatient :-)
> 
> If this is not a good idea... just forget about it.
> 
> Carolina
> 
> 
> 
> "amar es combatir, es abrir puertas, dejar de ser fantasma con un número a
> perpetua cadena condenado por un amo sin rostro" (Octavio Paz)
> http://www.piensalibre.net
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Re: [tdf-discuss] website improvements

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi Andy,

Am 29.09.2010 um 21:16 schrieb Andy Brown:

> Anyone who has had to manage even a small project can realize this is going 
> to take time.  I agree that there needs to be more people to help coordinate 
> this.  I have the greatest confidence in Florian but he is only one person 
> and can not do everything.

thanks for the kind words. ;) We're working hard on everything, and we will 
soon see some improvements.

Florian

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Re: [tdf-discuss] website improvements

[Andy Brown]

On Wed Sep 29 2010 11:59:32 GMT-0700 (PDT)  Carolina Flores Hine wrote:


I'm trying to imagine how it may be to receive all this e-mails saying "I
want to help". It takes a lot of effort to manage and coordinate all our
enthusiasm so... maybe there's a possibility to name an "area coordinator"
for marketing and communications (I'm just saying a name...) so we all can
be helpful instead of impatient :-)

If this is not a good idea... just forget about it.

Carolina


Anyone who has had to manage even a small project can realize this is 
going to take time.  I agree that there needs to be more people to help 
coordinate this.  I have the greatest confidence in Florian but he is 
only one person and can not do everything.


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Re: [tdf-discuss] website improvements

[Carolina Flores Hine]

>> 2010/9/29 Danishka Navin 
>>
>>> Hi Joaquín,
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Joaquín Bruno Huete
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 I am new in here but if for this translations there is no need of a
 high
 computer literacy I can offer my help with the Spanish version if
 neccesary.


>>> I am sure, the Spanish community  will help you. :)
>>>
>>
> I think Florian is doing  a great job and trying to cope with all the
> development going on on the list. But as soon as we move to CMS we could
> have more flexibility with localizing the site.

>>> Regards

> --
> *Alexandro Colorado*
> *OpenOffice.org* Español
> http://es.openoffice.org
>

I'm trying to imagine how it may be to receive all this e-mails saying "I
want to help". It takes a lot of effort to manage and coordinate all our
enthusiasm so... maybe there's a possibility to name an "area coordinator"
for marketing and communications (I'm just saying a name...) so we all can
be helpful instead of impatient :-)

If this is not a good idea... just forget about it.

Carolina



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Re: [tdf-discuss] website improvements

[csol...@gmail.com]

2010/9/29 Alexandro Colorado 

>
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:41 PM, csol...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm fluent in Spanish, English, and a not-so-know artificial language
>> named Ido (will leave that one for the last).
>> - Carlos Solís
>>
>>
>>
>> 2010/9/29 Danishka Navin 
>>
>>> Hi Joaquín,
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Joaquín Bruno Huete >> > wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 I am new in here but if for this translations there is no need of a high
 computer literacy I can offer my help with the Spanish version if 
 neccesary.


>>> I am sure, the Spanish community  will help you. :)
>>>
>>
> I think Florian is doing  a great job and trying to cope with all the
> development going on on the list. But as soon as we move to CMS we could
> have more flexibility with localizing the site.
>
How and when exactly will the website be available for localization?

>
>
>>
>>>
>>> Regards


 2010/9/29 Danishka Navin 

 count me in.. I can take care of Sinhala
>




>>>
>>>
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>>> http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
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> http://es.openoffice.org
>
>
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Re: [tdf-discuss] website improvements

[Alexandro Colorado]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:41 PM, csol...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm fluent in Spanish, English, and a not-so-know artificial language named
> Ido (will leave that one for the last).
> - Carlos Solís
>
>
>
> 2010/9/29 Danishka Navin 
>
>> Hi Joaquín,
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Joaquín Bruno Huete 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am new in here but if for this translations there is no need of a high
>>> computer literacy I can offer my help with the Spanish version if neccesary.
>>>
>>>
>> I am sure, the Spanish community  will help you. :)
>>
>
I think Florian is doing  a great job and trying to cope with all the
development going on on the list. But as soon as we move to CMS we could
have more flexibility with localizing the site.


>
>>
>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/9/29 Danishka Navin 
>>>
>>> count me in.. I can take care of Sinhala

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Danishka Navin
>> http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com
>>
>
>


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Re: [tdf-discuss] website improvements

[csol...@gmail.com]

I'm fluent in Spanish, English, and a not-so-know artificial language named
Ido (will leave that one for the last).
- Carlos Solís


2010/9/29 Danishka Navin 

> Hi Joaquín,
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Joaquín Bruno Huete 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am new in here but if for this translations there is no need of a high
>> computer literacy I can offer my help with the Spanish version if neccesary.
>>
>>
> I am sure, the Spanish community  will help you. :)
>
>
> Regards
>>
>>
>> 2010/9/29 Danishka Navin 
>>
>> count me in.. I can take care of Sinhala
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
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> http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com
>

Re: [tdf-discuss] website improvements

[Danishka Navin]

Hi Joaquín,

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Joaquín Bruno Huete wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am new in here but if for this translations there is no need of a high
> computer literacy I can offer my help with the Spanish version if neccesary.
>
>
I am sure, the Spanish community  will help you. :)


Regards
>
>
> 2010/9/29 Danishka Navin 
>
> count me in.. I can take care of Sinhala
>>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [tdf-discuss] website improvements

[Joaquín Bruno Huete]

Hi,

I am new in here but if for this translations there is no need of a high
computer literacy I can offer my help with the Spanish version if neccesary.

Regards


2010/9/29 Danishka Navin 

> count me in.. I can take care of Sinhala
>

Re: [tdf-discuss] website improvements

[Danishka Navin]

count me in.. I can take care of Sinhala

Re: [tdf-discuss] website improvements

[Mike Houben]

If you need a motivated person to assume the work of the website, i like to
do it.
CMS and all the stuff to maintain the site working.



2010/9/29 Carolina Flores Hine 

>
> > Hello,
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Florian Effenberger <
> > flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
> >
> >> the documentfoundation.org website currently is static HTML, that is
> >> being
> >> created with PHP files. We'll switch over to some CMS soon.
>
> Who will do that?
>
> Let us do it. I can do all the ugly work of copying and pasting texts (for
> a website like that, it's better to do that). I can translate into Spanish
> too and find more help for other languages.
>
> Carolina
>
> 
> "amar es combatir, es abrir puertas, dejar de ser fantasma con un número a
> perpetua cadena condenado por un amo sin rostro" (Octavio Paz)
> http://www.piensalibre.net
> Usuaria Gnu/Linux 447868
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Re: [tdf-discuss] website improvements

[Valter Mura]

In data mercoledì 29 settembre 2010 19:45:09, Carolina Flores Hine ha scritto:

> > Hello,
> > 
> > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Florian Effenberger <
> > 
> > flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
> >> the documentfoundation.org website currently is static HTML, that is
> >> being
> >> created with PHP files. We'll switch over to some CMS soon.
> 
> Who will do that?
> 
> Let us do it. I can do all the ugly work of copying and pasting texts (for
> a website like that, it's better to do that). I can translate into Spanish
> too and find more help for other languages.
> 

I can give a hand for Italian version, form the next week on...

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Re: [tdf-discuss] website improvements

[Carolina Flores Hine]

> Hello,
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Florian Effenberger <
> flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> the documentfoundation.org website currently is static HTML, that is
>> being
>> created with PHP files. We'll switch over to some CMS soon.

Who will do that?

Let us do it. I can do all the ugly work of copying and pasting texts (for
a website like that, it's better to do that). I can translate into Spanish
too and find more help for other languages.

Carolina


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Explanation . . . ?

[Bernhard Dippold]

Hi Steven,

great to read you again :-)

Steven Shelton schrieb:

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Is LibreOffice a new fork of OOo, or is this essentially the same as
when the Mozilla Foundation completely took over the Netscape/Firefox
project? In other words, will new versions of OpenOffice.org continue
to be developed and supported/made available for download at
OpenOffice.org, or is OpenOffice.org (the product) now renamed
LibreOffice, meaning all new development will take place under that
moniker?


This depends very much on the reaction of Oracle:

If they insist on keeping the trademark given to Sun Microsystems 
because the community hadn't an entity to claim violations and abuse, we 
will not be able to use our good name OpenOffice.org any more.


In this case we'll have to stick to LibreOffice, what will be a fork, 
because they probably won't allow their developers to code for 
LibreOffice while they try to keep the product alive and damage LibreOffice.


But this would be the public visible action verifying the fear that 
Oracle is much interested in Oracle (Open?) Office, but not in 
contributing to the OpenOffice.org community.


As they didn't announce their decision publicly, it's just an assumption 
to this state of time.


I hope very much that we'll have the chance to keep on working as the 
community we've been in the past, but with more freedom and broader 
support by people and constitutions previously hesitating to contribute 
and donating to a project lead and probably governed by a single company.


And is LibreOffice Beta the same as OpenOffice.org 3.3 Beta 1, but
rebranded? What's the relationship between the two?


I'm not a developer, but I as I've been told, its OOo3.3 Beta with some 
of the most stable Go-oo patches included.


Best regards

Bernhard

... knowing about the problem of different target groups for developer 
and marketing / ux / user base...

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Explanation . . . ?

[Alexandro Colorado]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Steven Shelton wrote:

>
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>
> Okay, I get what's going on here with the new foundation being
> created, but I think the way the announcements are done is a bit
> confusing to the average person who is not an "insider" on the project.
>
> Is LibreOffice a new fork of OOo, or is this essentially the same as
> when the Mozilla Foundation completely took over the Netscape/Firefox
> project? In other words, will new versions of OpenOffice.org continue
> to be developed and supported/made available for download at
> OpenOffice.org, or is OpenOffice.org (the product) now renamed
> LibreOffice, meaning all new development will take place under that
> moniker?
>
> And is LibreOffice Beta the same as OpenOffice.org 3.3 Beta 1, but
> rebranded? What's the relationship between the two?
>
> This has GOT to be confusing to the average user. I've been fairly
> involved in OOo for years, and *I'm* confused about what's happening
> here. Can someone clear this up a bit?
>


The answer depends on oracle participation, the idea was not a fork but a
indepeendence of the community. If oracle want to work with the foundation,
we can go back to business as usual as OpenOffice.org.

However if Oracle do not want to give back the brand (which was TM back us
in the beginning). Then we will jump as fork just yet. So we are hesitant to
call it a fork since Oracle hasn't send anything official.




>
> (FWIW, this has historically been one of the major roadblocks to
> adoption of more open source software--especially linux--by "regular"
> consumers. The software seems to be designed by and for developers
> because the announcements and documentation are all aimed at the "in
> crowd" who understand what it means to compile, what a "distro" is,
> and what a "fork" is. Joe Sixpack has no way of understanding what
>

Hey you will always have joe sixpacks running around confused regardless of
how clear you can be. I don't think our goal is to eradicate the joe
sixpacks of the world.



> most of the software is, let alone distinguish between versions and
> understand how to install and use the software. If the idea is to make
> open source software more prominent, there has to be a better effort
> on the part of the open source community--for all projects--to be less
> "developer" oriented and to be more "consumer" oriented in
> documentation and promotion.)
>
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Re: [tdf-discuss] monetary donations

[André Schnabel]

Hi,


Am 29.09.2010 17:02, schrieb John Wohn:


http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/ provides a way to
donate money but I'd like to know what the money would be used for.
Is there any public budget or business plan?  Public accounting or
financial statements?


No detailed plan at the moment. We currently use the money where it is 
urgently needed. So far costs for domain registrition, server hosting,

bandwith, trademark and legal advice are covered.

We will surely need more money for better infrastructure and once this 
is done, we might start to pay people to maintain the infrastructure and 
make developer's live easier (currrently all this is done on a voluntary 
basis).




I'm also hesitant to donate to anything called OpenOffice because I
don't want to send money to Oracle :)


No - Oracle is not involved. OpenOffice.org Deutschland e.V. is a German 
non-profit initiated by volunteers from the Germanophone project years 
ago. You will find all the board members of the association at the list 
of the founding members of the Document Foundation :)


regards,

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Re: [tdf-discuss] monetary donations

[Alexandro Colorado]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:02 AM, John Wohn  wrote:

> I would very much like to support LibreOffice but it will be a while
> before I can contribute through coding, testing, etc.
>
> http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/ provides a way to
> donate money but I'd like to know what the money would be used for.
> Is there any public budget or business plan?  Public accounting or
> financial statements?
>
> I'm also hesitant to donate to anything called OpenOffice because I
> don't want to send money to Oracle :)
>

Well Ooo community was never Oracle, and that is why the foundation got
created. Because we were never Oracle/Sun but yet we were under the shadow.
The Ooo German group is an NGO indpendent from Oracle since forever.



>
> Thanks
>
> John
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Libreoffice national domain name registrations

[leif]

Den 29-09-2010 08:54, Volker Merschmann skrev:
> Hi,
>
> 2010/9/28 leif :
>   
>> Hello Harri,
>> Thank you very much for your offer. That would very much be appreciated.
>>
>> At the moment we would prefer if you could redirect to the .org domains
>> and *not* add localised content.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Leif Lodahl
>>
>> 
> I just noticed that has already been done for libreoffice.de.
> Leif, what about libreoffice.dk ?
>   
Libreoffice.org and documentfoundation.dk is ownd by me ;-) I have not
been able to get contact with the Swedish community so the .se's are
unknown. The Norwegian (.no) should be ok.

/Leif
> Volker
>
>
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice general ideas and suggestions

[Clayton Walker]

So you're suggesting that we make a mailing list of ideas/feature requests?
Doesn't that seem like it should belong on a forum or a web-site where
people can submit ideas, and vote on them? If we had one of these, I would
be glad to submit a few ideas.

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Sean Carlos  wrote:

>
>
> Peter Hillier-Brook wrote the following on 09/29/2010 02:39 PM:
>
>  On 29/09/2010 13:23, Joe Rotello wrote:
>> [cut]
>>
>>  Suggestions for LibreOffice...most are general area ideas or
>>> perceived needs.
>>>
>>> NOT yet listed in any order of what might need to be done first,
>>> second, etc.:
>>>
>>> 1. Libre users, both new Libre users or those coming over from
>>> OpenOffice 3.2.x, NEED to know just where Libre is, compared to
>>> OpenOffice 3.2.x...Is Libre built ON Ooo 3.2.x ? Is Libre branching
>>> off from Ooo 3.2.x ? Does Libre have all the same functions
>>> (separate applications) that discuss@documentfoundation.org
>>>
>>> Alredy, we can see that Libre has a few features that are not seen
>>> in Ooo 3.2.x, and that seems to be a good sign of Libre progress.
>>>
>>> Unless Libre users, both new Libre users or those coming over from
>>> OpenOffice 3.2.x, have an idea of just where Libre sits right now,
>>> then likely confusing situations may develop, if not already.
>>>
>>
>> Strongly seconded! Whilst it would be desirable for Oracle to join the
>> club, it would be naive to expect them to and thus we will have a de
>> facto fork. Some knowledge of the baseline and the development resources
>> available to the Foundation would provide encouragement to current OO.o
>> supporters and potential new users.
>>
>> Peter HB
>>
>> [cut]
>>
>
> FYI, I see version OOO330m7 (Build:9526) in the "About" information; the
> current Oracle release for the 3.3 version is OOO330m9.
>
> - Sean
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[tdf-discuss] monetary donations

[John Wohn]

I would very much like to support LibreOffice but it will be a while
before I can contribute through coding, testing, etc.

http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/ provides a way to
donate money but I'd like to know what the money would be used for.
Is there any public budget or business plan?  Public accounting or
financial statements?

I'm also hesitant to donate to anything called OpenOffice because I
don't want to send money to Oracle :)

Thanks

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Mailist and usenet discussion list

[Marc Paré]

 Le 2010-09-29 10:29, Florian Effenberger a écrit :

Hi Marc,

Am 29.09.2010 um 16:26 schrieb Marc Paré:


If I could make a suggestion. As you know, Mandriva was recently forked a week 
a couple days ago and called Mageia. To avoid what was seen (and still being 
seen) on the ML there, would it be possible to organise a discussion list on 
Gmane as they have? That way, people could then track the discussion threads 
more easily? If people could then be encouraged to join the discussion list 
rather than the ML, you will have to repeat a lot less of the discussions that 
had previously taken place on the ML. This will save you a lot of frustration.

we've already registered on GMANE and wait for the lists to appear there.

Florian

Great! If someone could find an easy way to document the steps for 
people to join the Gmane on the Document Foundation website and actively 
promote joining it to the users, you will save yourselves a lot of 
frustration. People would then be able to browse through the threads and 
there would be very little thread breaking or thread highjacking. This 
will help organize the users in fostering more focussed and useful 
discussions. I think the ML are quite a bit of work if you think that 
you are going to be flooded with avid supporter eager to help and full 
of questions.


Marc
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Mailist and usenet discussion list

[Nguyen Vu Hung]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Marc Paré  wrote:

> To avoid what was seen (and still being seen) on the ML there, would it be
> possible to organise a discussion list on Gmane as they have?


+1 for any solution that support hybrid mailing list and onilne forum.

A nice sample is google group but we don't want to be stick on a company,
don't we?

OpenOffice uses collabNet's product; which is good but not perfect.

A new version of bugzilla is enough for handling bugs. I give a but for it.
However,

LibreOffice is huge project so IMO it is not a good idea to have only one
man
(dictator) sitting on the top. By restructure and modules and the softwares
included
in the office suite, we can manage it better.

I recommand redmine for managing tasks (called issues by redmine's
terminology).
A good news is that we can also customize fields in redmine so that it works
99% identical to bugzilla.


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Mailist and usenet discussion list

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi Marc,

Am 29.09.2010 um 16:26 schrieb Marc Paré:

> If I could make a suggestion. As you know, Mandriva was recently forked a 
> week a couple days ago and called Mageia. To avoid what was seen (and still 
> being seen) on the ML there, would it be possible to organise a discussion 
> list on Gmane as they have? That way, people could then track the discussion 
> threads more easily? If people could then be encouraged to join the 
> discussion list rather than the ML, you will have to repeat a lot less of the 
> discussions that had previously taken place on the ML. This will save you a 
> lot of frustration.

we've already registered on GMANE and wait for the lists to appear there.

Florian

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mailing list [ was: Re: [tdf-discuss] easy hacks -- question ]

[Nguyen Vu Hung]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Danishka Navin  wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Nguyen Vu Hung wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Alexander Werner <
>> bundeswer...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>
>>> Am 29.09.2010 um 06:58 schrieb Jonathan Zacsh:
>>> > I'm trying to help out with the "easy hacks" here:
>>> >
>>> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/LibreOffice/EasyHacks?action=show&redirect=Software/libreoffice/EasyHacks
>>>
>>> Try the libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org mailing list, it is more
>>> developer-centric so you are more likely to get a qualified answer from
>>> there.
>>> And don't forget to join the other hackers and head to #libreoffice at
>>> irc.freenode.net
>>>
>>> Regarding the mailing lists, I think we need:
>>
>> announce@
>> discuss@
>> webmasters@
>> dev@
>> ux@ User Experience
>> qa@ Quality Assurance
>> l18n@ l18n common discussion
>> i18n-xx@ localization list for , to be created on demand.
>>
>
> marketing@
> pr@
>
>
i18n-vi@

I would like to be a list master mainly working on i18n-vi@ and qa@

Regarding l18n@, I think Sophie should step out, she will fill the gap.



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Re: [tdf-discuss] Installing LibreOffice v.3.3 beta Linux rpm

[Marc Paré]

 Le 2010-09-29 10:21, Sophie Gautier a écrit :

Hi Marc,

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Marc Paré > wrote:


 Just wanted to make note of the following. If you plan on
installing the LibreOffice v. 3.3 beta on linux, here are some
steps that could help you do an easier install if you are not used
to using too much of the console and prompt.


Thanks a lot for this step by step install explanation!
Kind regards
Sophie

De rien Sophie, : )

Marc

[tdf-discuss] Mailist and usenet discussion list

[Marc Paré]

 If I could make a suggestion. As you know, Mandriva was recently 
forked a week a couple days ago and called Mageia. To avoid what was 
seen (and still being seen) on the ML there, would it be possible to 
organise a discussion list on Gmane as they have? That way, people could 
then track the discussion threads more easily? If people could then be 
encouraged to join the discussion list rather than the ML, you will have 
to repeat a lot less of the discussions that had previously taken place 
on the ML. This will save you a lot of frustration.


Either that, or start a forums board where the threads are clearly laid 
out. Many people who will join the ML will not have any idea what 
discussions have taken place and you will find yourselves constantly 
repeating past announcement over and over again. It would make the 
experience of joining the Document Foundation - LibreOffice movement a 
lot less frustrating for both the users and core group.


Just my opinion-suggestion.

Nice site!

Cheers

Marc
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Re: [tdf-discuss] easy hacks -- question

[Danishka Navin]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Nguyen Vu Hung wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Alexander Werner <
> bundeswer...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jonathan,
>>
>> Am 29.09.2010 um 06:58 schrieb Jonathan Zacsh:
>> > I'm trying to help out with the "easy hacks" here:
>> >
>> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/LibreOffice/EasyHacks?action=show&redirect=Software/libreoffice/EasyHacks
>>
>> Try the libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org mailing list, it is more
>> developer-centric so you are more likely to get a qualified answer from
>> there.
>> And don't forget to join the other hackers and head to #libreoffice at
>> irc.freenode.net
>>
>> Regarding the mailing lists, I think we need:
>
> announce@
> discuss@
> webmasters@
> dev@
> ux@ User Experience
> qa@ Quality Assurance
> l18n@ l18n common discussion
> i18n-xx@ localization list for , to be created on demand.
>

marketing@
pr@


>
> users@ should be replaced by an online forum
>
> cf. http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html
>
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Installing LibreOffice v.3.3 beta Linux rpm

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Marc,

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Marc Paré  wrote:

>  Just wanted to make note of the following. If you plan on installing the
> LibreOffice v. 3.3 beta on linux, here are some steps that could help you do
> an easier install if you are not used to using too much of the console and
> prompt.
>

Thanks a lot for this step by step install explanation!
Kind regards
Sophie

Re: [tdf-discuss] website improvements

[Nguyen Vu Hung]

Hello,

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Florian Effenberger <
flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:

> the documentfoundation.org website currently is static HTML, that is being
> created with PHP files. We'll switch over to some CMS soon.
>

That is bad,

+1 for drupal.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] easy hacks -- question

[Nguyen Vu Hung]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Alexander Werner <
bundeswer...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jonathan,
>
> Am 29.09.2010 um 06:58 schrieb Jonathan Zacsh:
> > I'm trying to help out with the "easy hacks" here:
> >
> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/LibreOffice/EasyHacks?action=show&redirect=Software/libreoffice/EasyHacks
>
> Try the libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org mailing list, it is more
> developer-centric so you are more likely to get a qualified answer from
> there.
> And don't forget to join the other hackers and head to #libreoffice at
> irc.freenode.net
>
> Regarding the mailing lists, I think we need:

announce@
discuss@
webmasters@
dev@
ux@ User Experience
qa@ Quality Assurance
l18n@ l18n common discussion
i18n-xx@ localization list for , to be created on demand.

users@ should be replaced by an online forum

cf. http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html


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[tdf-discuss] Installing LibreOffice v.3.3 beta Linux rpm

[Marc Paré]

 Just wanted to make note of the following. If you plan on installing 
the LibreOffice v. 3.3 beta on linux, here are some steps that could 
help you do an easier install if you are not used to using too much of 
the console and prompt.


Install process:

Intallation (based on a KDE desktop Mandriva 2010.1)
===

1. download LibreOffice from http://www.documentfoundation.org to your 
"downloads" folder into a folder called "LibreOffice"

2. open Konsole
3. do $su -
4. enter root password
5. do #dolphin
6. browse to the "LibreOffice" folder in the "downloads" folder
7. right-click on the LibreOffice file and choose extract archive here
8. once extracted double-click on folder "en-Us" and then "RPMS" and 
then "desktop-integration"

9. in Dolphin do F3 (this will split screen your window)
10.  click in the right window once and click on the "UP" arrow in the 
main menu bar up-above in Dolphin
11. you will now have the left window "desktop-integration" and right 
"RPMS" windows open
12. in the left window drag the 
libreoffice3.3-mandriva-menus-3.3-9526.noarch.rpm file to the RPMS 
window and choose "Copy" **
13. in Dolphin do F3 and use the "UP" arrow till you are back at the 
level where you see the "licenses", "readme", "RPMS" folders

14. right-click on folder RPMS and choose Action-Open Konsole
15. Konsole wil now open with a #
16. in Konsole do #rpm -Uvih *rpm
17. wait till all the packages have installed

-- ** for step 12 -- Note that if you are on Freedesktop drag the 
corresponding file instead; if you are on RedHat drag the corresponding 
file instead; if you are on Suse drag corresponding file instead


You will now have the LibreOffice v. 3.3.0 Beta installed and in your 
Mandriva menu. However, your menu items do not work. To setup your 
Mandriva menu, right click on the "Mandriva" start button (taskbar 
button with the star) and choose "Edit Menu". Find the LibreOffice icon 
(in Office) and click on it once; the right-hand window of the editing 
window will become active and choose "Command" -- click on the folder 
icon and browse to the Opt/libreoffice3 etc. till you find the right 
corresponding command file. Do the same for all of the other sets of the 
LibreOffice icons in the start menu. My opinion, I just set the 
LibreOffice icon and you don't really need the rest and this main window 
will give you access to all other parts of the LibreOffice Suite.


Hope this helps those who wish to try the LibreOffice v.3.3. beta. 
Remember, that this is a beta and may have some hiccups along the way. 
The look and feel of the suite has still not been polished.


Marc

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Re: [tdf-discuss] dvd/cd-rom

[Andy Brown]

On Wed Sep 29 2010 05:42:27 GMT-0700 (PDT)  Erich Christian wrote:

 Hi @ll,

Have there been any thoughts about establishing a DVD/CD-rom project?

AFAIK the foundation has not been discussed on the international cdrom
mailinglist so far, and I don't even know if there are localized
versions of disks and/or images available except the english cd-iso
files and the german PrOOo-Box I'm envolved in.

Looking forward to getting your opinions and some more infos concerning
other languages in case.



Hi Erich,

I can not speak for others but as a member of the OOo CD-Rom project I 
am ready to provide LO disk as well, when LO is out of Beta.  Until such 
time as Oracle makes up their mind how this will play out I will support 
both LO and OOo.


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Re: [tdf-discuss] dvd/cd-rom

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Hi,

Am 29.09.2010 um 16:00 schrieb Nguyen Vu Hung:

> And how about mirr...@?

there is already a mirrors list:

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Re: [tdf-discuss] dvd/cd-rom

[Nguyen Vu Hung]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Erich Christian  wrote:

> Have there been any thoughts about establishing a DVD/CD-rom project?


+1

And how about mirr...@?

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Re: [tdf-discuss] What, No .DEB?

[Nguyen Vu Hung]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Lane Lester wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Andy Brown wrote:
>
>> I guess they have not completed testing yet but you can find the DEBs at
>> http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/ .
>>
>
> Hey, thanks! Being an impatient person I installed alien (RPM>DEB
> converter) and unlike some of my past experiences with alien, the conversion
> seems to have succeeded. Converting the "freedesktop" RPM also gave me a
> full set of menu entries in Ubuntu Studio 64bit 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat).
>
> Hello,

This is a good news but I think, we don't need alien.
LibreOffice will/should/must supports Ubuntu 64 bit "natively".

Questions: We do need a build farm, which may cost an arm and a leg.



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Re: [tdf-discuss] dvd/cd-rom

[Nguyen Vu Hung]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Erich Christian  wrote:

> Have there been any thoughts about establishing a DVD/CD-rom project?


+1

And how about mirr...@?

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[tdf-discuss] Explanation . . . ?

[Steven Shelton]

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Is LibreOffice a new fork of OOo, or is this essentially the same as
when the Mozilla Foundation completely took over the Netscape/Firefox
project? In other words, will new versions of OpenOffice.org continue
to be developed and supported/made available for download at
OpenOffice.org, or is OpenOffice.org (the product) now renamed
LibreOffice, meaning all new development will take place under that
moniker?

And is LibreOffice Beta the same as OpenOffice.org 3.3 Beta 1, but
rebranded? What's the relationship between the two?

This has GOT to be confusing to the average user. I've been fairly
involved in OOo for years, and *I'm* confused about what's happening
here. Can someone clear this up a bit?

(FWIW, this has historically been one of the major roadblocks to
adoption of more open source software--especially linux--by "regular"
consumers. The software seems to be designed by and for developers
because the announcements and documentation are all aimed at the "in
crowd" who understand what it means to compile, what a "distro" is,
and what a "fork" is. Joe Sixpack has no way of understanding what
most of the software is, let alone distinguish between versions and
understand how to install and use the software. If the idea is to make
open source software more prominent, there has to be a better effort
on the part of the open source community--for all projects--to be less
"developer" oriented and to be more "consumer" oriented in
documentation and promotion.)

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[tdf-discuss] Explanation . . . ?

[Steven Shelton]

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Okay, I get what's going on here with the new foundation being
created, but I think the way the announcements are done is a bit
confusing to the average person who is not an "insider" on the project.

Is LibreOffice a new fork of OOo, or is this essentially the same as
when the Mozilla Foundation completely took over the Netscape/Firefox
project? In other words, will new versions of OpenOffice.org continue
to be developed and supported/made available for download at
OpenOffice.org, or is OpenOffice.org (the product) now renamed
LibreOffice, meaning all new development will take place under that
moniker?

And is LibreOffice Beta the same as OpenOffice.org 3.3 Beta 1, but
rebranded? What's the relationship between the two?

This has GOT to be confusing to the average user. I've been fairly
involved in OOo for years, and *I'm* confused about what's happening
here. Can someone clear this up a bit?

(FWIW, this has historically been one of the major roadblocks to
adoption of more open source software--especially linux--by "regular"
consumers. The software seems to be designed by and for developers
because the announcements and documentation are all aimed at the "in
crowd" who understand what it means to compile, what a "distro" is,
and what a "fork" is. Joe Sixpack has no way of understanding what
most of the software is, let alone distinguish between versions and
understand how to install and use the software. If the idea is to make
open source software more prominent, there has to be a better effort
on the part of the open source community--for all projects--to be less
"developer" oriented and to be more "consumer" oriented in
documentation and promotion.)

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[tdf-discuss] Explanation . . . ?

[Steven Shelton]

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Okay, I get what's going on here with the new foundation being
created, but I think the way the announcements are done is a bit
confusing to the average person who is not an "insider" on the project.

Is LibreOffice a new fork of OOo, or is this essentially the same as
when the Mozilla Foundation completely took over the Netscape/Firefox
project? In other words, will new versions of OpenOffice.org continue
to be developed and supported/made available for download at
OpenOffice.org, or is OpenOffice.org (the product) now renamed
LibreOffice, meaning all new development will take place under that
moniker?

And is LibreOffice Beta the same as OpenOffice.org 3.3 Beta 1, but
rebranded? What's the relationship between the two?

This has GOT to be confusing to the average user. I've been fairly
involved in OOo for years, and *I'm* confused about what's happening
here. Can someone clear this up a bit?

(FWIW, this has historically been one of the major roadblocks to
adoption of more open source software--especially linux--by "regular"
consumers. The software seems to be designed by and for developers
because the announcements and documentation are all aimed at the "in
crowd" who understand what it means to compile, what a "distro" is,
and what a "fork" is. Joe Sixpack has no way of understanding what
most of the software is, let alone distinguish between versions and
understand how to install and use the software. If the idea is to make
open source software more prominent, there has to be a better effort
on the part of the open source community--for all projects--to be less
"developer" oriented and to be more "consumer" oriented in
documentation and promotion.)

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Correct Forum for Build Questions

[George Galt]

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Volker Merschmann  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 2010/9/28 George Galt :
>> Is this the correct forum for posting questions on building
>> LibreOffice from source?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George
> This is the only mailinglist at this moment, please ask.
>
> Volker
>
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I'm on Fedora 13 x86_64.  I followed the instructions here:
http://www.documentfoundation.org/develop/

FYI, for me, I needed to also install libXaw-devel even after
yum-depbuild for openoffice, I also needed to alter the auto-gen
command to: ./autogen.sh --with-distro=LibreOfficeLinux --with-git
--with-num-cpus=2 --without-junit  because I was getting complaints
that make couldn't find "Junit 4".

Now, however, I'm stuck.  Running make ends with the following:

8 module(s):
tomcat
beanshell
hsqldb
rhino
saxon
lucene
qadevOOo
xmerge
need(s) to be rebuilt

Reason(s):

ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
/home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/rhino
ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
/home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/xmerge/source/xmerge
ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
/home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/lucene
ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
/home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/tomcat
ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
/home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/saxon
ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
/home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/beanshell
ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
/home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/hsqldb
ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
/home/ggalt/workspace/build/build/libreoffice-3.2.99.1/qadevOOo

Attention: if you fix the errors in above module(s) you may prolongue
your the build issuing command:

build --from tomcat beanshell hsqldb rhino saxon lucene qadevOOo xmerge

make: *** [stamp/build] Error 1

Any thoughts on where to go?

George
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[tdf-discuss] Congratulations and best of luck

[Marc Paré]

 Congratulations and the best of luck to LibreOffice. You have a very 
well organized site and seem to have started structuring the whole 
process of a true OSS LibreOffice.


OpenOffice has just grown up.

Marc Paré
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice general ideas and suggestions

[Sean Carlos]

Peter Hillier-Brook wrote the following on 09/29/2010 02:39 PM:

On 29/09/2010 13:23, Joe Rotello wrote:
[cut]


Suggestions for LibreOffice...most are general area ideas or
perceived needs.

NOT yet listed in any order of what might need to be done first,
second, etc.:

1. Libre users, both new Libre users or those coming over from
OpenOffice 3.2.x, NEED to know just where Libre is, compared to
OpenOffice 3.2.x...Is Libre built ON Ooo 3.2.x ? Is Libre branching
off from Ooo 3.2.x ? Does Libre have all the same functions
(separate applications) that discuss@documentfoundation.org

Alredy, we can see that Libre has a few features that are not seen
in Ooo 3.2.x, and that seems to be a good sign of Libre progress.

Unless Libre users, both new Libre users or those coming over from
OpenOffice 3.2.x, have an idea of just where Libre sits right now,
then likely confusing situations may develop, if not already.


Strongly seconded! Whilst it would be desirable for Oracle to join the
club, it would be naive to expect them to and thus we will have a de
facto fork. Some knowledge of the baseline and the development resources
available to the Foundation would provide encouragement to current OO.o
supporters and potential new users.

Peter HB

[cut]


FYI, I see version OOO330m7 (Build:9526) in the "About" information; the 
current Oracle release for the 3.3 version is OOO330m9.


- Sean
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Re: privatmail (war: Re: [tdf-discuss] website improvements)

[Danishka Navin]

Dear Christoph and Volker,

I am really sorry if any of heart from my mail.

We also can give a feedback if we can understand it. :)

Danishka


On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Volker Merschmann wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Christoph failed in sending the mail direct to my address
> We will continue in private mail thread as the subject suggests
>
> Bye
>
> Volker
>
> 2010/9/29 Danishka Navin :
> > since this mailing list is global one, highly appreciate if you could
> > communicate in English :)
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Christoph Noack <
> christ...@dogmatux.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Volker,
> >>
> >> sorry für die kurze Mail ... ich habe Deine Anfrage mal an das interne
> >> Team weiter geleitet. Die Webseite selbst und so unterliegen bestimmten
> >> Randbedingungen - die soll irgendwann ohnehin mal in ein CMS überführt
> >> werden. Ich finde es aber _extrem_ genial wie die aktuellen
> >> Rückmeldungen und Unterstützungsangebote sind ... wäre es also okay,
> >> wenn ich Dich/Euch noch einen Tag warten lasse mit 'ner Antwort? Dann
> >> weiß ich mehr ...
> >>
> >> Liebe Grüße,
> >> Christoph
> >>
> >>
> >> Am Mittwoch, den 29.09.2010, 07:14 +0200 schrieb Volker Merschmann:
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > I think before we are starting individual changes, we should form a
> >> > website team/project for some coordinated work. And there will be much
> >> > of it.
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> >
> >> > Volker
> >> >
> >> > 2010/9/29 Jonathan Zacsh :
> >> > > I'm a drupal developer and can safely say its no drupal site. Though
> >> > > I'd be _happy_ to help build out a drupal site for this project (and
> >> > > I'm sure I could get _plenty_ more NYC drupal community members
> >> > > involved).
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Jonathan Zacsh
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 00:50, Alexandro Colorado <
> j...@openoffice.org>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Jonathan Zacsh  >
> >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Hello,
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> I'd like to improve parts of the websites design/theming and
> >> > >>> front-end
> >> > >>> code. This isn't a judgment on whats already been done, as its
> >> > >>> fairly
> >> > >>> impressive (especially since it must've been done fairly quickly)
> --
> >> > >>> this is just my effort to help out in the most immediate way I
> know
> >> > >>> how (html/css theming).
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> To start, I could change the navigation buttons on the right-side
> of
> >> > >>> the page to be an actual unordered list of text. I could have it
> >> > >>> look
> >> > >>> exactly the same,but it would be real content, instead of
> pictures.
> >> > >>> Also, I could allow it (*without* javascript pre-loading images)
> to
> >> > >>> not flicker on mouse-over of each button. Also, I saw some
> >> > >>> html-comments in the page stating some stuff that the initial
> author
> >> > >>> didn't have the time to do, but would like to see done.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Anyway, I was about to actually code these changes in html/css but
> I
> >> > >>> saw, "don't edit this page! edit the PHP instead" -- so I figured
> >> > >>> I'd
> >> > >>> ask for a copy of the PHP file and save some effort :)
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Thanks,
> >> > >>> Jon
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> >> > >> Hi Jon, thanks for your post, this leads me to ask what is the site
> >> > >> running
> >> > >> on, it looks like a drupal site but I might be wrong about that.
> Can
> >> > >> I get
> >> > >> confirmation if the group used a web app or a platform?
> >> > >>
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> >> > >> OpenOffice.org Español
> >> > >> http://es.openoffice.org
> >> > >>
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[tdf-discuss] dvd/cd-rom

[Erich Christian]

 Hi @ll,

Have there been any thoughts about establishing a DVD/CD-rom project?

AFAIK the foundation has not been discussed on the international cdrom
mailinglist so far, and I don't even know if there are localized
versions of disks and/or images available except the english cd-iso
files and the german PrOOo-Box I'm envolved in.

Looking forward to getting your opinions and some more infos concerning
other languages in case.

Erich

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice general ideas and suggestions

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 29/09/2010 13:23, Joe Rotello wrote:
[cut]


Suggestions for LibreOffice...most are general area ideas or
perceived needs.

NOT yet listed in any order of what might need to be done first,
second, etc.:

1. Libre users, both new Libre users or those coming over from
OpenOffice 3.2.x, NEED to know just where Libre is, compared to
OpenOffice 3.2.x...Is Libre built ON Ooo 3.2.x ? Is Libre branching
off from Ooo 3.2.x ? Does Libre have all the same functions
(separate applications) that discuss@documentfoundation.org

Alredy, we can see that Libre has a few features that are not seen
in Ooo 3.2.x, and that seems to be a good sign of Libre progress.

Unless Libre users, both new Libre users or those coming over from
OpenOffice 3.2.x, have an idea of just where Libre sits right now,
then likely confusing situations may develop, if not already.


Strongly seconded! Whilst it would be desirable for Oracle to join the 
club, it would be naive to expect them to and thus we will have a de 
facto fork. Some knowledge of the baseline and the development resources 
available to the Foundation would provide encouragement to current OO.o 
supporters and potential new users.


Peter HB

[cut]
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice general ideas and suggestions

[Joe Rotello]

 I would repeat the following in English, French, German...but the 
discuss@documentfoundation.org limits to 16K bytes length. That may be 
terrible!


Suggestions for LibreOffice...most are general area ideas or perceived 
needs.


NOT yet listed in any order of what might need to be done first, second, 
etc.:


1. Libre users, both new Libre users or those coming over from 
OpenOffice 3.2.x, NEED to know just where Libre is, compared to 
OpenOffice 3.2.x...Is Libre built ON Ooo 3.2.x ?  Is Libre branching off 
from Ooo 3.2.x ?  Does Libre have all the same functions (separate 
applications) that discuss@documentfoundation.org


Alredy, we can see that Libre has a few features that are not seen in 
Ooo 3.2.x, and that seems to be a good sign of Libre progress.


Unless Libre users, both new Libre users or those coming over from 
OpenOffice 3.2.x, have an idea of just where Libre sits right now, then 
likely confusing situations may develop, if not already.


2. The discuss@documentfoundation.org NEEDS to at least offer the option 
to allow users to receive one or two "all messages" combined Email 
(usually called Digest option) instead of so many separate Emails being 
received by all of us.


How and where would this be accomplished at the 
discuss@documentfoundation.org website ?


Speaking ofdisc...@documentfoundation.org messages, would it not be a 
good idea to have in the message Subject line the OS or specific topic 
that the message pertains to ?  Such as "Win 7", "Windows 64bit", 
"Fedora", "Mac OS", or "Libre Wordprocessor" and so forth. That way, we 
all know exactly what OS or topic that the message is referring to.


Joe
Knoxville, TN / USA

The above, in German via Google language converter (although I am 
English in USA user):


Vorschläge für LibreOffice ... die meisten sind die allgemeinen Bereich 
Ideen oder vermeintlichen Notwendigkeiten.


Noch in keiner Ordnung, was man braucht aufgeführten ersten, zweiten, 
usw. vorgenommen werden:


1. Libre Benutzer, sowohl neue Nutzer Libre oder diejenigen, die über 
von OpenOffice 3.2.x, nach Bedarf nur wissen, wo Libre ist, im Vergleich 
zu OpenOffice 3.2.x .. Ist Libre an OOo 3.2.x gebaut? Ist Libre 
abzweigenden Ooo 3.2.x? Hat Libre haben alle die gleichen Funktionen 
(getrennte Anwendungen), die discuss@documentfoundation.org


Alredy, können wir sehen, dass Libre ein paar Features, die nicht in OOo 
3.2.x gesehen werden, und das hat offenbar ein gutes Zeichen für Libre 
Fortschritt.


Sofern Libre Benutzer, sowohl neue Nutzer Libre oder diejenigen, die 
über von OpenOffice 3.2.x, eine Idee von etwas, wo Libre jetzt sitzt 
haben, kann dann wahrscheinlich verwirrend Situationen entwickeln, wenn 
nicht bereits.


2. Die discuss@documentfoundation.org muss mindestens bieten die 
Möglichkeit, dass Benutzer ein oder zwei "Alle Nachrichten" kombiniert 
E-Mail erhalten (in der Regel genannt Digest Option) anstelle von so 
vielen separaten E von allen von uns empfangen.


Wie und wo wäre das am discuss@documentfoundation.org Website erreicht 
werden?


Apropos ofdisc...@documentfoundation.org Meldungen, wäre es nicht eine 
gute Idee, in der Nachricht Betreff-Zeile haben das Betriebssystem oder 
bestimmten Thema, dass die Nachricht gehört werden? Wie "Win 7", 
"Windows 64-Bit", "Fedora", "Mac OS", oder "Libre Wordprocessor" und so 
weiter. So, wir alle wissen genau, was OS oder Thema, das die Nachricht 
bezieht.


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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice on Fedora12 64bit

[Sean Carlos]

Danishka Navin wrote the following on 09/29/2010 09:55 AM:

Hi Marcus,

installed it.

there was an error

"could not launch LibreOffice 3.3 draw..
Failed to excute child process
"libreoffice" no such file or directory'

  I just installed RPMs and the
libreoffice3.3-redhat-menus-3.3-9526.noarch.rpm.

Danishka



I'm seeing the same problem.  The writer menu tries to lauch:

libreoffice -writer %U

If I change that to

libreoffice3 -writer %U

then everything works.
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