Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

2010-10-16 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Michel, 2010/10/16 Michel Gagnon mic...@mgagnon.net Le 2010-10-15 16:29, Mirek M. a écrit : Hi Michel, That gives me a lot to respond to -- I'll try to be as concise as possible. a) Why the change in menu categorization? Because the old one wasn't good enough. File contained tools

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

2010-10-16 Thread Mirek M.
Hi David, Here's an experimental mock-up of how panes might be managed: http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/10/16/citrus-possible-solution-to-pane/ 2010/10/15 David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz Hi, :-) One thing missing from LibO is the ability to split one window showing 2 / 3 / X

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

2010-10-16 Thread Mike Houben
Hi all, i already asked a little bit around for the GUI remake and I'm liking Mireks UI proposals. I think it's about time to start a seperate mailinglist for the UI of LO so we can focus on this project. And all out there who don't like to have a new UI, don't bash this project. If you ask

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

2010-10-16 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-16 09:55, Mike Houben a écrit : Hi all, i already asked a little bit around for the GUI remake and I'm liking Mireks UI proposals. I think it's about time to start a seperate mailinglist for the UI of LO so we can focus on this project. And all out there who don't like to have a

Re: [tdf-discuss] MS Office 2010 FUD

2010-10-16 Thread Ian
On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 17:26 +0100, Zaphod Feeblejocks wrote: Greetings, friends. Have a look at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP0MM5sZbUcfeature=player_embedded Looks like Microsoft are getting scared - why else would they go to the hassle of FUDding OOo? What we need is a port of OOo

Re: [tdf-discuss] Android (was: MS Office 2010 FUD)

2010-10-16 Thread Ian
On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 16:46 +, jonathon wrote: On 10/16/2010 04:37 PM, Ian wrote: On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 17:26 +0100, Zaphod Feeblejocks wrote: What we need is a port of OOo to Android. Which of the 200+ variants of Android should be targeted? All those running on devices that are

Re: [tdf-discuss] Problems installing LibO beta2 on Debian

2010-10-16 Thread AG
On 16/10/10 17:37, Kertesz Laszlo wrote: On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 19:25:46 +0300, AG computing.acco...@googlemail.com wrote: On 16/10/10 16:24, AG wrote: On 16/10/10 12:36, Kertesz Laszlo wrote: Hello, You have to completely remove the installed LibreOffice version (all lobasis* or libobasis*

Re: [tdf-discuss] MS Office 2010 FUD

2010-10-16 Thread todd rme
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Ian ian.ly...@theingots.org wrote: On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 17:26 +0100, Zaphod Feeblejocks wrote: Greetings, friends. Have a look at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP0MM5sZbUcfeature=player_embedded Looks like Microsoft are getting scared - why else would

Re: [tdf-discuss] MS Office 2010 FUD

2010-10-16 Thread AG
On 16/10/10 17:26, Zaphod Feeblejocks wrote: Greetings, friends. Have a look at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP0MM5sZbUcfeature=player_embedded Looks like Microsoft are getting scared - why else would they go to the hassle of FUDding OOo? Zaphod This is hilarious - all of the crap

Re: [tdf-discuss] MS Office 2010 FUD

2010-10-16 Thread Ian
On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 13:05 -0400, todd rme wrote: On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Ian ian.ly...@theingots.org wrote: On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 17:26 +0100, Zaphod Feeblejocks wrote: Greetings, friends. Have a look at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP0MM5sZbUcfeature=player_embedded

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

2010-10-16 Thread Thiago Chaves
Hi, just gonna add +1 on the list of the people saying the UI should support theming. Regarding the difficulty to maintain several UIs, I guess having the user themselves create the theme, rate and update them would have a good chance of making the problem self-solvable. Outdated UIs stop being

Re: [tdf-discuss] Problems installing LibO beta2 on Debian

2010-10-16 Thread Scott Furry
On 16/10/10 05:21 AM, AG wrote: Hi all I dropped this into the thread on the beta 2 release, but that was the wrong place and it subsequently got lost. So, to give it its own thread just in case others need it in the future. For my Debian system, I found

Re: [tdf-discuss] A few initial comments on Beta2

2010-10-16 Thread Scott Furry
On 16/10/10 12:01 PM, AG wrote: Hi list Now that I have LibO beta 2 working, I'd like to offer a few comments if I may: (i) the installation process - at least for Deb - needs to be streamlined and made more intuitive (this may be superseded once the Deb maintainers get their hands on

[tdf-discuss] crash open a non Calc file name *.ods

2010-10-16 Thread James
I use KDE. I created a new text file and named it usage.ods. I then tried to open it and LibreOffice crashed. I sometimes create new documents this way. If I rename the file usage.txt and open it with Calc, it imports fine. If I rename it as usage.ods and open it with Calc, it crashes. Does this

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?

2010-10-16 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-16 12:18, j.martin.pedersen a écrit : Hi, LibreOffice is an exciting development! As a Free Software user and advocate who spends time in academia this is a crucial aspect of getting anyone to use LO: As Writer developer I would be really interested in improving that... though I

[tdf-discuss] keep LibreOffice name

2010-10-16 Thread James
Even if Oracle donates the name OpenOffice.org, I think keeping the LibreOffice name is a better move forward. -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?

2010-10-16 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-16 15:29, j.martin.pedersen a écrit : I will subscribe and attempt to find time to contribute. -martin Thanks, you are exactly the academic type of person I would be interested in having opinions in the marketing section. We need to hear more about academic use of LibO,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Problems installing LibO beta2 on Debian

2010-10-16 Thread AG
On 16/10/10 19:42, Scott Furry wrote: On 16/10/10 05:21 AM, AG wrote: Hi all I dropped this into the thread on the beta 2 release, but that was the wrong place and it subsequently got lost. So, to give it its own thread just in case others need it in the future. For my Debian system, I

Re: [tdf-discuss] keep LibreOffice name

2010-10-16 Thread AG
On 16/10/10 20:08, James wrote: Even if Oracle donates the name OpenOffice.org, I think keeping the LibreOffice name is a better move forward. +1 -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at

Re: [tdf-discuss] MS Office 2010 FUD

2010-10-16 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 17:26:10 PM +0100, Zaphod Feeblejocks (zapho...@gmail.com) wrote: Greetings, friends. Have a look at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP0MM5sZbUcfeature=player_embedded Looks like Microsoft are getting scared - why else would they go to the hassle of FUDding OOo?

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?

2010-10-16 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:18 PM, j.martin.pedersen m.peder...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: Hi, LibreOffice is an exciting development! As a Free Software user and advocate who spends time in academia this is a crucial aspect of getting anyone to use LO: As Writer developer I would be really

Re: [tdf-discuss] crash open a non Calc file name *.ods

2010-10-16 Thread Andy Brown
On Sat Oct 16 2010 11:56:44 GMT-0700 (PDT) James wrote: I use KDE. I created a new text file and named it usage.ods. I then tried to open it and LibreOffice crashed. I sometimes create new documents this way. If I rename the file usage.txt and open it with Calc, it imports fine. If I rename it

Re: [tdf-discuss] Problems installing LibO beta2 on Debian

2010-10-16 Thread AG
On 16/10/10 20:20, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-16 13:00, AG a écrit : On 16/10/10 17:37, Kertesz Laszlo wrote: On a general note, I wonder if it would be worthwhile for the packagers of LibO to (a) include installation instruction documentation somewhere on their site where these can be

Re: [tdf-discuss] MS Office 2010 FUD

2010-10-16 Thread AG
On 16/10/10 20:41, M. Fioretti wrote: On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 17:26:10 PM +0100, Zaphod Feeblejocks (zapho...@gmail.com) wrote: Greetings, friends. Have a look at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP0MM5sZbUcfeature=player_embedded Looks like Microsoft are getting scared - why else would they

Re: [tdf-discuss] crash open a non Calc file name *.ods

2010-10-16 Thread James
On 10/16/10 15:51, Andy Brown wrote: On Sat Oct 16 2010 11:56:44 GMT-0700 (PDT) James wrote: I use KDE. I created a new text file and named it usage.ods. I then tried to open it and LibreOffice crashed. I sometimes create new documents this way. If I rename the file usage.txt and open it

Re: [tdf-discuss] unsubscribed posters

2010-10-16 Thread Barbara Duprey
On 10/15/2010 7:11 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Barbara, Barbara Duprey schrieb: [...] [Bernhard, I'm not sure you actually saw my post == it's all snipped here. But I think it's pertinent to some of your points.] I did - but as I only replied to the main point (in my eyes), I removed

Re: [tdf-discuss] A Map of Bibliographic systems? was: LibO roadmap?

2010-10-16 Thread j.martin.pedersen
On 16/10/10 20:48, Simos Xenitellis wrote: On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:18 PM, j.martin.pedersen m.peder...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: Hi, LibreOffice is an exciting development! As a Free Software user and advocate who spends time in academia this is a crucial aspect of getting anyone to use

Re: [tdf-discuss] unsubscribed posters

2010-10-16 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
I agree with what Barbara Duprey wrote in response to Bernhard, in a long note that I'm not quoting here. We really need some way of supporting ordinary users, especially the vast majority who just want their questions answered and/or who don't have the time or interest to join our community.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Problems installing LibO beta2 on Debian

2010-10-16 Thread Scott Furry
On 16/10/10 01:45 PM, AG wrote: On 16/10/10 19:42, Scott Furry wrote: On 16/10/10 05:21 AM, AG wrote: AG, I used Nikola's Deb archive (adding it to my sources.list). Scott, what's the line for that? 1. Adding the repository: sudo echo “debhttp://download.tuxfamily.org/gericom/libreoffice

Re: [tdf-discuss] A few initial comments on Beta2

2010-10-16 Thread Scott Furry
On 16/10/10 01:30 PM, AG wrote: On 16/10/10 19:50, Scott Furry wrote: On 16/10/10 12:01 PM, AG wrote: (ii) there is still no Quickstarter available - nothing under Tools/ Options/ General/ Memory to even enable this. Not critical, but very nice to have and the code already exists for OOo

Re: [tdf-discuss] A few initial comments on Beta2

2010-10-16 Thread RGB ES
2010/10/16 AG computing.acco...@googlemail.com: (iii) when opening a previously saved document, it would be nice if the cursor went automatically to the last saved point of the document rather than what seems to happen now which is to default to the beginning of the doc.  This is especially

Re: [tdf-discuss] Two moderator questions

2010-10-16 Thread Barbara Duprey
On 10/16/2010 11:56 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Barbara, Barbara Duprey wrote on 2010-10-16 01.15: I think if there were a Reply capability in the LibO archive, we could accomplish most of the task even without automatic support. Either those of us who already pay attention to whether

Re: [tdf-discuss] crash open a non Calc file name *.ods

2010-10-16 Thread Caio Tiago Oliveira
James, 16-10-2010 15:56: I use KDE. I created a new text file and named it usage.ods. I then tried to open it and LibreOffice crashed. OK, it shouldn't crash. I sometimes create new documents this way. If I rename the file usage.txt and open it with Calc, it imports fine. When using .txt

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?

2010-10-16 Thread Jon Hamkins
On 10/16/2010 12:33 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-16 15:29, j.martin.pedersen a écrit : I will subscribe and attempt to find time to contribute. -martin Thanks, you are exactly the academic type of person I would be interested in having opinions in the marketing section. We need to hear

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO Beta 2 Libre Office Writer/Web (Html Document) Settings Form Controls disappearing

2010-10-16 Thread Paul A Norman
Dear Andy, That not being able to attach PNGs is going to slow things down a bit a picture beung worth a thousand words. The file appears to only be the HTML I pasted in previously - that's part of my problem - there is nothing more to attach and send. I am now almost convinced that the Labels,

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?

2010-10-16 Thread Andy Brown
On Sat Oct 16 2010 20:35:41 GMT-0700 (PDT) Marc Paré wrote: Thanks for the note. Yes, it does sound that different tools are needed depending on the field of study. There should almost be a mailist dedicated to LibO use for academia where we could collect the data needed to make LibO a

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO Beta 2 Libre Office Writer/Web (Html Document) Settings Form Controls disappearing

2010-10-16 Thread Andy Brown
On Sat Oct 16 2010 20:41:18 GMT-0700 (PDT) Paul A Norman wrote: Dear Andy, That not being able to attach PNGs is going to slow things down a bit a picture beung worth a thousand words. The file appears to only be the HTML I pasted in previously - that's part of my problem - there is nothing