Hi guys,
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 01:57 +0100, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
Cor Nouws schrieb:
Has been considered that this leads to a situation where each year
people have to get used to the tasks, the other board members etc. so
that maybe it is a bit inefficient?
This is fairly
Mirek M. skrev:
'm really against a special LibO font. What the open-source community
should be doing is ensuring that a select few open-source fonts are
available in as many places as possible. Just like documents written with
Times/Arial/Courier fonts are readable basically everywhere,
Hi Friedrich,
Friedrich Strohmaier wrote on 2010-11-21 14.37:
Well, as You can see I'm in favor of the lyric variant. :o))
I'm against it. We need to make things clear, and put them in normal
words. We're not a writer's club. ;)
- prosaic variant:
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lets hope not, as god as LO is it is still not ready for general release.
The coding is not yet finished, the interface is still that clunky thing
thats been around since the 90's and is a little old and, most importantly,
a good marketing strategy is yet to appear. The success of this sort of
One of the things i LOVE about open source software is the ability for me to
ask someone else to code something or port something that i cant do myself.
So my solution to your problem of incompatible extensions is to set up a
new mailing list for OO to LO extension porting. the public can send
because the underlining code inst changing overly-much, most of the
extensions should be easy to port and in th odd case where an extension is
truely broken by LO's remakes then we can rewrite the plugin from scratch.
As a side not we will probably need a page on the document foundation site
that
Hi Charles, *,
Charles Marcus schrieb:
On 11/19/2010 7:16 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
Charles Marcus schrieb:
I'd really like to see an email support list dedicated solely to
questions in the nature of I know how to do this in
Excel/Word/Powerpoint, but how do I do it on
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 08:04:29AM -0700, Craig A. Eddy wrote:
listed in the README_en-US file. I'm not familiar with dpgk, though I
Then get. You administer a Debian-based system without knowing dpkg? Oh my.
(Besides that, http://packages.debian.org/libreoffice has a metapackage -
you need at
Hi,
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 09:03:35AM -0600, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
unsuspecting users to the same problem that OOo has been famous for:
there is no obvious way to start to install the files. Dependencies for
dpkg -i *.deb?
each .deb have to be met, but nothing indicates the order with
Hi Florian Reisinger, *,
This mail arrived completely screwed up!
I'm sure no one made the effort to read it.
Florian Reisinger schrieb:
[.. screwed content ..]
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Hi René, *,
René Engelhard schrieb:
[.. depency question ..]
Nope. Really, I expect anybody having root on a Debian-based system to
know dpkg. Seriously.
So you'd recommend everybody just running a desktop machine and not
wanting to get a full featured serveradmin to abhore debian?
It would
Hi, :-)
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 20:31, Rene Engelhard
rene.engelh...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
Nope. Really, I expect anybody having root on a Debian-based system to know
dpkg. Seriously.
Oh, Wow! What if you're an end user who needs a computer just to do
work on? Does every Linux user
On 11/22/2010 05:33 AM, Rene Engelhard wrote:
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 08:04:29AM -0700, Craig A. Eddy wrote:
listed in the README_en-US file. I'm not familiar with dpgk, though I
Then get. You administer a Debian-based system without knowing dpkg? Oh my.
(Besides that,
On 11/22/2010 07:28 AM, David Nelson wrote:
Hi, :-)
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 20:31, Rene Engelhard
rene.engelh...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
Nope. Really, I expect anybody having root on a Debian-based system to know
dpkg. Seriously.
Oh, Wow! What if you're an end user who needs a
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:28:43PM +0800, David Nelson wrote:
Oh, Wow! What if you're an end user who needs a computer just to do
work on? Does every Linux user have to be a hard-core geek? And if you
own a Windows system, should one study for Microsoft certification
before shelling out you
Hi Michael, *,
Michael Wheatland schrieb:
If I may throw in my 2c.
Welcome! :o))
As a part of the official LibreOffice Drupal website development we
will be creating a QA area where there are standard questions and
answers, but it will also give people the opportunity to ask their own
Hi Michael, *,
Michael Wheatland schrieb:
René Engelhard schrieb:
Nope. Really, I expect anybody having root on a Debian-based system
to know dpkg. Seriously.
[..]
You were responding *my* mail not referring to my contents.
Please take care for clear communication.
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On Nov 22, 2010, at 16:16 , Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
Hi Michael, *,
Michael Wheatland schrieb:
In addition to this we will be setting up support accounts on all of
the major social networks.
Will these automatically post the question on the nabble forum and thus on the
mailing
Michael Wheatland skrev:
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Claus Agerskov c...@agercon.dk wrote:
I would see Verdana as one of the pre-installed fonts aswell.
-1
Verdana is a proprietary Microsoft font.
Sorry, didn't knew that.
Then it is also a -1 from me to my own suggestion.
The
You were responding *my* mail not referring to my contents.
Friedrich
I am new to this mailing list thing. I use Gmail and I reply by
clicking the 'reply' space at the very bottom of the conversation
list.
How are you able to tell which message I reply to? And what should I
be doing to ensure
Hello David,
Le Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:03:21 +0800,
David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz a écrit :
Hi, :-)
Having been given permission to proofread and revise the initial
draft, I presumed it would be OK to do the same for subsequent
amendments. I hope I did not overstep myself there; if I
Will this ever happen with Libre Office?
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-fe
There are already OOo plugins that integrate OOo with Google Docs. They've
been around for years.
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On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Frank Esposito frankespos...@gmail.comwrote:
Will this ever happen with Libre Office?
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Hello,
Le Mon, 22 Nov 2010 17:08:30 +,
Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com a écrit :
Hi there,
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 21:03 +0800, David Nelson wrote:
It seems that there are still some big ambiguities that would need
to be resolved:
Well detected :-)
The Chairperson
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On 11/22/2010 03:07 PM, Rene Engelhard wrote:
Because dpkg -i *.deb is esssentialy setup.exe.
That would be true if, and only if there was _one_ deb to install, in
which gdeb would by used, not dpkg.
Don't tell me anyone using Windows must not
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On 11/22/2010 11:24 AM, Sean White wrote:
One of the things i LOVE about open source software is the ability for me to
ask someone else to code something or port something that i cant do myself.
Have you looked at the percentage of extensions for
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 03:52:41PM +, Lee Hyde wrote:
original poster is making. Windows users are presented with a single
setup.exe while debian/ubuntu users are presented with a multitude of
individual .deb files. This is not user friendly!
Nonsense. dpkg -i *.deb is user friendly,
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 06:50:36PM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote:
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 03:52:41PM +, Lee Hyde wrote:
original poster is making. Windows users are presented with a single
setup.exe while debian/ubuntu users are presented with a multitude of
individual .deb files. This is
On Nov 22, 2010, at 17:18 , Michael Wheatland wrote:
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:10 AM, James Wilde wilde.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
Will these automatically post the question on the nabble forum and thus on
the mailing list? And will the answers come back from the nabble forum and
the mailing
Is the take over of Novell going to affect the document foundation?
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On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 04:56:40PM +0100, Italo Vignoli wrote:
So, I think that any user guide that makes it easier for computer
illiterates to install a software is always welcome, provided that I
will not install LibreOffice until is available in a repository that
I can access via Ubuntu
Hi René, *,
René Engelhard schrieb:
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 03:15:25PM +0100, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
So you'd recommend everybody just running a desktop machine and not
wanting to get a full featured serveradmin to abhore debian?
No, I want desktop users to know how to use their system.
jonathon wrote:
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On 11/21/2010 09:15 PM, James Wilde wrote:
...and? Is LibO going to upgrade the version number every time OOo does? And
only then?
Unless there is a compatibility tag for extensions, the way that there
is for firefox,
On 22/11/10 17:50, Rene Engelhard wrote:
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 03:52:41PM +, Lee Hyde wrote:
Nonsense. dpkg -i *.deb is user friendly, despite what you want to claim.
That graphical tools might make it difficult is no argument.
It is obvious that the dpkg method described is a more
Hi, :-)
I am ROFL reading this thread. :-D
Rene, I'll write that how-to this week, notably for Ubuntu users, and
then - if it's OK with you - I'll send you the draft with any
questions I have regarding Debian.
We could also include instructions about how to *de-install* an
already-installed
Hi,
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 07:34:13PM +0100, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
From a geeks point of view You are right. But I'm shure that it is not a
good idea to make all people out there geeks before using a computer or
using office software ;o)).
Ah, so we should let people not care about
On 22/11/10 17:58, Rene Engelhard wrote:
Beisde that, you agree that .deb is what users should know. How on earth are
they
then NOT to know how to install them? (And install all of debs one program
consists
of?)
I'm but a lowly Ubuntu user Rene, and I usually favour the use of
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Lee Hyde anub...@gmail.com wrote:
cut
On 22/11/10 17:50, Rene Engelhard wrote:
No, my position taken to the logical conclusion would not be that (as I think
there's use cases for GUIs - I didn't say anything against them here but just
mentioned that dpkg
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 02:55:22AM +0800, David Nelson wrote:
I am ROFL reading this thread. :-D
You obviously are not thinking about the big picture, otherwise you wouldn't
laugh.
Rene, I'll write that how-to this week, notably for Ubuntu users, and
then - if it's OK with you - I'll send you
On 2010-11-22 10:07 AM, Rene Engelhard wrote:
There is no goddamn need for it.
And there's no need for profanity either...
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Le 2010-11-22 07:05, Sean White a écrit :
because the underlining code inst changing overly-much, most of the
extensions should be easy to port and in th odd case where an extension is
truely broken by LO's remakes then we can rewrite the plugin from scratch.
As a side not we will probably
Le 2010-11-22 06:30, Michael Wheatland a écrit :
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Claus Agerskovc...@agercon.dk wrote:
I would see Verdana as one of the pre-installed fonts aswell.
-1
Verdana is a proprietary Microsoft font. Let's focus on open source
solutions such as those previously
Hi Charles, :-)
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 00:18, Charles-H. Schulz
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
thank you a lot for this!!!
No problem. I've got a watch on the page, and will visit whenever
there's a change then. ;-)
1) (however, ESC members who are also members of the BoD can
Le 2010-11-22 14:02, Graham Lauder a écrit :
On Tuesday 23 November 2010 06:29:01 Frank Esposito wrote:
Will this ever happen with Libre Office?
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Hi Ian,
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 18:10 +, Ian Lynch wrote:
Is the take over of Novell going to affect the document foundation?
It has been long anticipated, and comes as no surprise.
In the short term, nothing changes. In the medium term what the effect
is, bad, neutral or
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 06:50:36PM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote:
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 03:52:41PM +, Lee Hyde wrote:
original poster is making. Windows users are presented with a single
setup.exe while debian/ubuntu users are presented with a multitude of
individual .deb files. This is
On Tuesday 23 November 2010 07:10:31 Ian Lynch wrote:
Is the take over of Novell going to affect the document foundation?
And my question would be; do any of the 882 patents sold to the Microsoft
consortium affect the go-ooo code and therefore expose TDF to patent actions?
Cheers
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On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:
Le 2010-11-22 14:02, Graham Lauder a écrit :
On Tuesday 23 November 2010 06:29:01 Frank Esposito wrote:
Will this ever happen with Libre Office?
Hi,
I've tried to fix the mail from Florian Resinger:
Btw, Florian, which email client do you use? Your email was horrible to
read I've had a hard time figuring out, who said what after your mail.
Sigrid
Am Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:25:11 +0100
schrieb Florian Reisinger reisi...@live.at:
Claus
On 22 November 2010 20:41, Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com wrote:
Hi Ian,
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 18:10 +, Ian Lynch wrote:
Is the take over of Novell going to affect the document foundation?
It has been long anticipated, and comes as no surprise.
In the short
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 02:28:54PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
open to learning a *few* new things, it is extremely user friendly.
There is, however, a segment of the population that actively resists
learning *anything*.
And that's a problem.
Grüße/Regards,
René
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Hello Michael,
Am Tue, 23 Nov 2010 01:30:19 +0930
schrieb Michael Wheatland mich...@wheatland.com.au:
You were responding *my* mail not referring to my contents.
Friedrich
I am new to this mailing list thing. I use Gmail and I reply by
clicking the 'reply' space at the very bottom of
Sigrid Carrera wrote:
Yes, I agree with you, arrogance doesn't help this project. But I
guess, René (btw, he is (was?) the Debian maintainer for OOo, and I
guess, he will maintain LibO for Debian too) has seen similar questions
too much and many people aren't willing to learn something new. So
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 01:30:19AM +0930, Michael Wheatland wrote:
You were responding *my* mail not referring to my contents.
Friedrich
I am new to this mailing list thing. I use Gmail and I reply by
clicking the 'reply' space at the very bottom of the conversation
list.
How are you
As I see it, the problem here is that cool, useful extensions aren't being
really exposed to most OOo/LibO users.
if they are really cool and useful (as this one is that was just pointed
out) then they should become standard features of part of an add-on pack.
imho...
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Carl Symons wrote:
Italo, I work on several open source projects. Almost everyone else
involved is a developer (I'm more in your camp, although the dpkg -i
x86_64 .deb issue is well within my ability). In every case, there is
shared emphasis on users. What benefits the users? There's a whole
On 11/22/2010 06:43 AM, Craig A. Eddy wrote:
...
René
It isn't so much that I administer a Debian release as that I USE a
Debian release and do what I can. What I do is what I have managed to
learn to do over time, but without any formal training in UNIX, Linux,
administration, coding, or
On 11/22/2010 04:33 AM, Rene Engelhard wrote:
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 08:04:29AM -0700, Craig A. Eddy wrote:
listed in the README_en-US file. I'm not familiar with dpgk, though I
Then get. You administer a Debian-based system without knowing dpkg? Oh my.
(Besides that,
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:31:58PM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote:
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 02:28:54PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
open to learning a *few* new things, it is extremely user friendly.
There is, however, a segment of the population that actively resists
learning *anything*.
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote:
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:31:58PM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote:
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 02:28:54PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
open to learning a *few* new things, it is extremely user friendly.
There is, however, a
On 11/22/2010 06:37 PM, NoOp wrote:
On 11/22/2010 06:43 AM, Craig A. Eddy wrote:
...
René
It isn't so much that I administer a Debian release as that I USE a
Debian release and do what I can. What I do is what I have managed to
learn to do over time, but without any formal training in
When do you plan to release LibreOffice.org 3.3 final? Is the portable
version developed by you or portableapps?
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