Le Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:04:27 -0800,
NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net a écrit :
On 11/22/2010 10:10 AM, Ian Lynch wrote:
Is the take over of Novell going to affect the document foundation?
Actually, isn't this sort of thing the reason TDF was created to
begin with?
Yes exactly. And I'm glad
Le Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:31:00 +1300,
Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.org a écrit :
On Tuesday 23 November 2010 07:10:31 Ian Lynch wrote:
Is the take over of Novell going to affect the document foundation?
And my question would be; do any of the 882 patents sold to the
Microsoft consortium
Thanks for that link, it was a real help. I can't say I'm pleased, but the
decision has been made and I will not go against the steering community.
Something I did note was that a-lot of the points we have raised match
theirs concept-for-concept if not word-for-word.
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at
On Tuesday 23 November 2010 21:14:39 Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Le Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:04:27 -0800,
NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net a écrit :
On 11/22/2010 10:10 AM, Ian Lynch wrote:
Is the take over of Novell going to affect the document foundation?
Actually, isn't this sort of thing the
Marc Paré schrieb:
[...] IMO, the user
should always be left in control of the extensions. If they are so
necessary, then they should be coded in and not be called extensions.
+1
I have a non removable Zulu hyphenation dictionary from 2008, but no Help.
Rainer
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On 11/22/2010 06:31 AM, Rene Engelhard wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 09:03:35AM -0600, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
unsuspecting users to the same problem that OOo has been famous for:
there is no obvious way to start to install the files. Dependencies for
dpkg -i *.deb?
each .deb have
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 22:24:00 +1100, Sean White runicpala...@gmail.com wrote:
One of the things i LOVE about open source software is the ability for me to
ask someone else to code something or port something that i cant do myself.
So my solution to your problem of incompatible extensions is to
On 11/22/2010 11:50 AM, Rene Engelhard wrote:
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 03:52:41PM +, Lee Hyde wrote:
original poster is making. Windows users are presented with a single
setup.exe while debian/ubuntu users are presented with a multitude of
individual .deb files. This is not user friendly!
Hi plino,
Am 23.11.2010 15:41, schrieb plino:
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n1953706/LO_multi.png
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n1953706/LO_all_lang.png
Thanks!
The BrOffice is the same installer with a different name because the name
OpenOffice was already
Hi Stefan, *,
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Stefan Weigel
stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org wrote:
Hi,
* Which languages are included in LibO_3.3.0_Win_x86_install_multi.exe ?
* Which languages are included in
LibO_3.3.0_Win_x86_install_all_lang.exe ?
I forwarded/posted the same question
Efficient support, explain fragmentation, put ODF first:
http://stop.zona-m.net/2010/11/three-things-to-not-forget-to-make-libreoffice-and-odf-succeed/
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On Nov 23, 2010, at 10:42 AM, M. Fioretti wrote:
As per subject:
http://stop.zona-m.net/2010/11/a-proposal-for-effective-volunteer-friendly-user-support-in-libreoffice/
I reviewed your proposal and think you make very good points. As I personally
haven't closely followed the user
I do agree that volunteer-friendly user support is the key for the success of
any Open Source project.
However, in my opinion e-mail and mailing lists are obsolete and ineffective
tools.
A user forum (with optional mail notification) and a wiki are much more
powerful tools.
A forum makes it
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 17:52 +0100, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
1) the ESC does not get to vote, it's not elected, and it's a technical
body. The AB can propose candidate(s), but cannot vote.
2) BoD appoints the CH, by vote or by consensus. People can nominate
themselves and send their
On 11/23/2010 05:05 AM, Graham Lauder wrote:
On Tuesday 23 November 2010 21:14:39 Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Le Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:04:27 -0800,
NoOpgl...@sbcglobal.net a écrit :
On 11/22/2010 10:10 AM, Ian Lynch wrote:
Is the take over of Novell going to affect the document foundation?
On 11/23/2010 11:57 AM, plino wrote:
I do agree that volunteer-friendly user support is the key for the success of
any Open Source project.
However, in my opinion e-mail and mailing lists are obsolete and ineffective
tools.
A user forum (with optional mail notification) and a wiki are much
On 11/23/2010 05:37 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
Marc Paré schrieb:
[...] IMO, the user
should always be left in control of the extensions. If they are so
necessary, then they should be coded in and not be called extensions.
+1
I have a non removable Zulu hyphenation dictionary from 2008,
Hi Nathan,
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 12:13 -0500, Nathan wrote:
can you clarify what you mean by having And I'm glad to have Michael,
Thorsten and the Suse team
on board with us, hopefully for a very long time.
are these people that used to be employed by novell, have left and are
now
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Nathan nathan1...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/23/2010 11:57 AM, plino wrote:
I do agree that volunteer-friendly user support is the key for the success
of
any Open Source project.
However, in my opinion e-mail and mailing lists are obsolete and
ineffective
On 2010/11/23 11:29 AM Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
Michael Wheatland schrieb:
I use Gmail and I reply by
clicking the 'reply' space at the very bottom of the conversation
list.
I don't know Gmail, but what You tell from it's not a very mailing list
capable mail client.
Gmail very capable
Hi René, *,
René Engelhard schrieb:
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 07:34:13PM +0100, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
From a geeks point of view You are right. But I'm shure that it is
not a good idea to make all people out there geeks before using a
computer or using office software ;o)).
Ah, so we
Hi Italo, *,
Italo Vignoli schrieb:
[..]
The fact that I am technically illiterate (and I like being so) does
not make me a worse user, or one with less rights. Communities around
the world have made OOo a better product because they have cared
about users, although the project was clearly
There are open software stacks with various CMS tools where you can combine
wiki, blog, forum, and FAQ functionality together. A community site could
have articles on the front end to help demonstate features, provide
tutorials, expose new templates and extensions, etc.
Users can provide comments
Hi Christian Lohmaier, *,
Christian Lohmaier schrieb:
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com
wrote:
[...]
Gmail very capable for mailing lists.
Except for the very one drawback you just demonstrated:
When changing the subject, gmail will break the thread (start
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Christian Lohmaier
lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com lohmaier%2booofut...@googlemail.comwrote:
Hi Larry, *,
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com
wrote:
[...]
Gmail very capable for mailing lists.
Except for the very one
Hi Larry, *,
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2010/11/23 11:58 AM Christian Lohmaier wrote:
2. I didn't change the subject, Friedrich Strohmaier changed it.
Oh yes, it was changed (but according to usual etiquette, thus was
very likely done by
My concern is that many users expect help to be present in the application
itself, and not everyone is willing to go and find answers in a community.
Could the application itself pull its Help functionality from online
resources?
In my experience an online forum/help/FAQ does NOT replace an
On 2010/11/23 12:29 PM Christian Lohmaier wrote:
Hi Larry, *,
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Larry Gusaaslarry.gus...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2010/11/23 11:58 AM Christian Lohmaier wrote:
2. I didn't change the subject, Friedrich Strohmaier changed it.
Oh yes, it was changed (but according
On 2010/11/23 12:25 PM Kevin Vermeer wrote:
This only happens on this list, because every subject is prepended with
[tdf-discuss] and some replies get Re: inserted after it while others
insert the Re: before the [tdf-discuss] token, leading to four kinds of
subjects like:
Once again I am
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 08:57:45 AM -0800, plino (pedl...@gmail.com) wrote:
I do agree that volunteer-friendly user support is the key for the
success of any Open Source project. However, in my opinion e-mail
and mailing lists are obsolete and ineffective tools.
The problem I describe did not
Le 2010-11-23 14:29, M. Fioretti a écrit :
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 08:57:45 AM -0800, plino (pedl...@gmail.com) wrote:
I do agree that volunteer-friendly user support is the key for the
success of any Open Source project. However, in my opinion e-mail
and mailing lists are obsolete and
Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote in message
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Le 2010-11-23 12:33, Nathan a écrit :
On 11/23/2010 05:37 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
Marc Paré schrieb:
[...] IMO, the user
should always be left in control of the extensions. If they are so
necessary, then
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 09:13:16AM -0500, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2010-11-22 9:11 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote:
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:31:58PM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote:
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 02:28:54PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
There is, however, a segment of the population that
Hi Rene, all,
it seems that your mail started an evolution in this thread leading to
negative feelings and reproaches that should be avoided.
The Steering Committee asked me and Cor Nouws to have a eye on this (and
the other lists we're subscribed to) in order to keep discussions on
topic
Le 2010-11-23 15:11, plino a écrit :
If this means anything, the Drupal LibreOffice website will be offering
all modes of communications to the users: mailists, forums and wiki. If
you can think of any other modes let us know and we will into providing
it for the members.
Marc, does it
I just have to respond to this, I hate forums or anything else that
required the use of PASSWORDS!!! I already have 10 times too many
passwords to remember or keep track of and I want absolutely NO more.
Frankly I wish the entire computer and software industry would flush the
whole idea of
Marc Paré wrote:
Le 2010-11-23 15:36, Robert Derman a écrit :
I have said this in the OOo discuss list, and I think it bears repeating
here. One of the biggest problems causing the need for users especially
new ones to need help is the lack of a good users manual. The OOo
documentation site is
One of LibreOffice's supporters is Mark Shuttleworth / Canonical. They have
a lot of experience in shipping Ubuntu disks worlwide for free...
Just an idea ;)
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Andy Brown wrote:
On Tue Nov 23 2010 12:36:35 GMT-0800 (PST) Robert Derman wrote:
Assuming that it is, I think the primary users manual should focus on
Writer, with just one chapter on each of the other modules, and a
pointer to where to download a more extensive manual on each. Where
I
On 2010/11/23 4:46 PM Michael Wheatland wrote:
Now we just need to convince people to upgrade their OS and shipping
the CDs is taken care of;)
Only for Linux users.
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Le 23/11/10 23:53, Robert Derman a écrit :
As far as 5x7 that is a guesstimation. What I do know for sure is that
when I print manuals out there are usually hugely wasteful margins at
all 4 sides when they are printed on 8.5x11 inch paper which is the only
size commonly available in the U.S.
Hi Robert, *
Robert Derman schrieb:
[...] Perhaps we should make more of an effort than OOo did of making
LO available on disk as an alternative to downloads. An on disk
version could include more documentation as well as many, most, or
perhaps all templates and extensions. a CD provides about
On 2010/11/23 5:01 PM Alexander Thurgood wrote:
It would be interesting to know, just from a statistical point of view,
which countries in the world use Letter instead of A4 as their default
page size for office documents. Apart from the US, I can't think of many
others, but perhaps I am just
On 23 November 2010 21:25, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote:
On Tue Nov 23 2010 12:36:35 GMT-0800 (PST) Robert Derman wrote:
Assuming that it is, I think the primary users manual should focus on
Writer, with just one chapter on each of the other modules, and a pointer to
where to
Hi Robert et al:
Here is the information from Jean Hollis Weber from the documentation
team. Jean is one of the senior leads on the documentation team.
==
Marc, thanks for passing this on.
Some factual info regarding the OOo user guides:
1) The ODTs of the OOo user guides
On 11/23/2010 02:50 PM, Ian Lynch wrote:
On 23 November 2010 21:25, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote:
On Tue Nov 23 2010 12:36:35 GMT-0800 (PST) Robert Derman wrote:
Assuming that it is, I think the primary users manual should focus on
Writer, with just one chapter on each of
Le 2010-11-23 19:20, Bernhard Dippold a écrit :
Hi Robert, *
Robert Derman schrieb:
[...] Perhaps we should make more of an effort than OOo did of making
LO available on disk as an alternative to downloads. An on disk
version could include more documentation as well as many, most, or
perhaps
Le 2010-11-23 16:50, Ian Lynch a écrit :
There are some good manuals for OOo - Gabriel Gurley's A conceptual Guide
to OpenOffice.org 3 and the OpenOffice.org Authors publications. However, I
think what is needed is an on-line tutorial system that leads to
certification. That is really what we
Le 2010-11-23 19:55, Larry Gusaas a écrit :
On 2010/11/23 5:01 PM Alexander Thurgood wrote:
It would be interesting to know, just from a statistical point of view,
which countries in the world use Letter instead of A4 as their default
page size for office documents. Apart from the US, I can't
Le 2010-11-23 17:52, Michael Wheatland a écrit :
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Robert Derman
robert.der...@pressenter.com wrote:
I just have to respond to this, I hate forums or anything else that required
the use of PASSWORDS!!! I already have 10 times too many passwords to
remember or
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.comwrote:
On 2010/11/23 12:25 PM Kevin Vermeer wrote:
This only happens on this list, because every subject is prepended with
[tdf-discuss] and some replies get Re: inserted after it while others
insert the Re: before the
Le 2010-11-23 18:05, Alexander Thurgood a écrit :
Le 23/11/10 23:01, Robert Derman a écrit :
I just have to respond to this, I hate forums or anything else that
required the use of PASSWORDS!!! I already have 10 times too many
passwords to remember or keep track of and I want absolutely NO
Le 2010-11-23 15:11, plino a écrit :
If this means anything, the Drupal LibreOffice website will be offering
all modes of communications to the users: mailists, forums and wiki. If
you can think of any other modes let us know and we will into providing
it for the members.
Marc, does it
On 11/23/2010 02:59 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
Le 2010-11-23 14:44, Harold Fuchs a écrit :
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Le 2010-11-23 12:33, Nathan a écrit :
On 11/23/2010 05:37 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
Marc Paré schrieb:
[...] IMO, the
On 2010/11/23 8:31 PM Kevin Vermeer wrote:
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Larry Gusaaslarry.gus...@gmail.comwrote:
On 2010/11/23 12:25 PM Kevin Vermeer wrote:
This only happens on this list, because every subject is prepended with
[tdf-discuss] and some replies get Re: inserted after
Le 24/11/10 03:31, Marc Paré a écrit :
I find that it sometimes does not require much. I had problems with
spammers and bots on my sites till I added a captcha where you had to
spell words backwards. Spam is now down to a very small trickle and I
can now literally monitor new signups and to
I'm sorry if asking this here is inappropriate, I couldn't find the
answer in FAQ, neither another mailing list dedicated for that purpose:
what is the proper place/people to resort to, in order to report/resolve
issues with current LibreOffice's beta release? Is bugzilla
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:16:53 +0200, Marwan Gedeon mar...@zaradoustra.com
wrote:
I'm sorry if asking this here is inappropriate, I couldn't find the
answer in FAQ, neither another mailing list dedicated for that purpose:
what is the proper place/people to resort to, in order to report/resolve
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