[tdf-discuss] Problem with linking external sheets in CALC

2011-02-07 Thread OBUTEX/Hladůvka

I have linked to file1.ods another file2.xls sheet named RATES
and have a lot of formulas using the RATES cells.
Now the name RATES in the file2.xls changed to SHEET1 and the links are 
broken (caused by exporting data in xls format from some other application).

There is a way to change the filename but not the sheetname.

I solved it by this complicated way:
1) rename the file file1.ods to file1.zip
2) unzip file1.zip to the folder file1
3) manualy edit the content.xml file in the folder file1: - find the 
proper xlink tag and change RATES into SHEET1

4) zip the folder to FILE1.zip
5) rename FILE1.zip to FILE1.ods

When linking the file for the very 1st time and more sheets are found in 
the linked file, the system asks which sheet is to be linked.

This should be asked when changing the name of the linked file, too.

Is there any faster way how to update these broken links?
Or could someone to make a sugestion to the developers to fix it - my 
English is not good enough to explain the problem better :)



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[tdf-discuss] Foundation Fundraising

2011-02-07 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

I am copying a few lists on this, so all teams are informed. *Please* do 
continue discussion *solely* on the appropriate lists, e.g. website for 
website related tasks, design for design related tasks and so on, do 
*not* Cc all the lists when replying. :-)


Introduction

At the moment, The Document Foundation [1] is no legal entity by itself, 
but the German non-profit association OpenOffice.org Deutschland e.V. 
[2], despite its name, is holding the legal assets, accepts donations, 
and pays for the infrastructure and other things.


The fact that the Foundation has not been set-up at first place was on 
purpose, to leave doors to potential contributors open and allow 
everyone to participate in shaping it. One of the results of this 
Community process are our Bylaws [3], which will also serve as basis for 
the Foundation's statutes.


During the last weeks, the Steering Committee [4] of The Document 
Foundation evaluated various options for setting up the legal entity. In 
a public Steering Committee Phone Conference [5], the following decision 
was made:


* The Foundation should be established in Germany in the form of a 
Stiftung.


  o Foundations have quite a good tradition in Germany, and the 
benefits in terms of taxes and credibility are high. In addition, the 
German model provides a high security and stability, as the Foundation's 
statutes cannot be changed, or at least not in major parts.


  o In contrast, a German association would be much easier to 
set-up, but the majority of the members can easily change the statutes. 
This is something we want to avoid, in order to provide safety and 
stability for our users and the whole Community.


  o The drawback of a Germany-based Foundation is that we need 
at least 50.000 € for the capital stock, ideally it is even 100.000 €. 
That money can not be used for daily work, but needs to stay in the 
stock. This is required for the safety of a Germany-based model.


* The Steering Committee set itself a deadline for getting the 
required funds, which will be end of March 2011. If, by that date, we do 
not have enough Funds in donations, or confirmations by sponsors, the 
Foundation then can not not be set-up in Germany, but we will rather go 
for a legal entity in the United Kingdom.


  o A legal entity in the UK is not as desirable as in Germany, 
as in the latter one we have many active members, the roots of the 
product originally lie here, a lot of support from corporations and 
governmental bodies is expected. In addition, a German Stiftung is 
generally perceived as something very trustworthy and stable.


  o However, if by the end of March 2011, we will not succeed 
with a Germany-based model, it is unlikely that we will manage it later 
on, so that deadline is fixed.


Fundraising

In order to achieve our goal, we need to start a fundraising. Perception 
of The Document Foundation and LibreOffice has been very well, we 
received lots of supportive words from private end-users, corporations 
and governmental entities, however, donations in terms of money [6] came 
in mostly by private users. This has various reasons:


* Getting support in terms of resources from corporations is much 
easier than getting money.


* Many corporations do not want to invest in the capital stock, but 
rather in the daily business. However, without a capital stock, a 
Germany-based Foundation is not possible. This is somehow a 
chicken-and-egg-problem.


* We did not start an actual fundraising up to now, except a call 
for donations.


Within the next days, we plan to start a public fundraising, targeted at 
corporations, governmental entities, as well as private users, in order 
to collect the needed funds.


After this very long introduction, serving that we're all at the same 
page, I'm coming to the point. :-)


I have set up a dedicated wiki page for collecting ideas at 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Foundation_Fundraising#Ideas and 
would like to encourage all of you to add and contribute ideas. As the 
deadline is approaching quickly, we need to start acting soon in order 
to get things up and running, and any help is very much welcome.


In order to have efforts coordinated, please do *not* start working on 
your own without asking on the lists. We all have been through tough 
discussions regarding these issues the last weeks, so this one should 
work more coordinated. :-) If you have an idea, and you can actually 
work on it, add your name to the wiki. After we decided which 
fundraising actions to take, we then can start working on it and also 
involve the press. Again, in order to have the best press coverage, we 
need to work coordinated.


Thanks a lot to all of you for your help in this next important step of 
our journey!


Florian


[1] http://www.documentfoundation.org
[2] http://www.ooodev.org
[3] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/CommunityBylaws
[4] 

Re: [tdf-discuss] Reporting Ubuntu bugs in LO - PPA or Official LO - Clarification needed

2011-02-07 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
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On 11-02-04 11:05 AM, emarkay wrote:
 
 Reporting Ubuntu bugs ... via: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
 
 As this is a multiplatform program, I can understand that the main user of
 it (Ubuntu) is to have a separate bug system. Thus, the first question is:
 What if a Ubuntu-reported bug also affects Windows version, for example, or
 vice versa; what's the link to ensure both (or all relevant OS platform
 issues) are addressed?

If an Ubuntu-specific bug is also present in other platforms, it should
be reported upstream (at freedesktop.org's bugzilla). Reporting
Ubuntu-only bugs upstream also helps expose them to other platforms in
order to determine if they are present or not. I also view it as a trail
where others may end up finding your report and confirming / rejecting
it. Some of this is from personal experience, some from online docs and
readings. The current maintainers may have more / better details about
this. I wrote a short note to Björn so he looks at it and comment back.

 Second, and most important, LO is standard issue now in Ubuntu Natty,
 which is still in Beta at this time. There is no Official Ubuntu LO support
 for the current release (Maverick), nor the prior LTS (Long Term Support)
 release, Lucid, nor prior active Ubuntu releases. There is, however a PPA
 that is supported by the Document Foundation; thus while not blessed by
 the Ubuntu authorities, is tested there by some official LO developers,
 and is as good as we'll get for Lucid and Maverick users who want to
 migrate to LO.

The PPA is as official as it gets and currently Canonical has staff
maintaining it (at least 2):
https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+members#active

As I understand it this PPA is a staging area which has the same
packages you find in Ubuntu 11.04 (so, in development) and it's also
built for Maverick and Lucid. It's convenient to use and lets you easily
remove LibO if you decide to do so.

The chances of this getting into the main repository for Maverick are
most probably none - it's only there for convenience and no official
support (in terms of commercial support by Canonical) may be offered for
that.

For Ubuntu 10.04 LTS I believe it's the same situation, but LTS releases
sometimes get some exceptions. Firefox is a notable one where current
releases of FF were rolled back into older stable Ubuntu versions. I
lack the time to gather references but it should be easy to trace back
such exceptions.

I am not sure the PPA was put together initially by TDF but regardless,
you now have Canonical staff looking into it, and Debian has LibO
packages in the experimental repository, which to me means everything is
in place to have an official release on time for Ubuntu 11.04. If you're
planning any migration from OOo to LibO, your best path (IMO) would be
to focus on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and perhaps have trials using the PPA in
10.04 LTS before that. You'll think it's a long shot until you sit and
try it :) It does take some time to make such changes.

Of course in any *production environment* migration considerations, the
only authority to speak on what is supported commercially or not on
Ubuntu by them is Canonical - just call and ask, as you would for any
other product you want to use before doing so. And no, this doesn't stop
anyone else from offering such support and go ahead with migration
before 11.04 is out anyways. But why do that when the release is 2
months away (other than wanting to stay at 10.04 LTS for its life
duration..).

 
 So, the final question is, do Lucid and Maverick Ubuntu users submit bug
 reports to the Ubuntu Launchpad, even though there is no development or
 support for those 'Ubuntus', or to the Bugzilla location?

Yes, they should file bugs there. I consider it even better if they take
the time to file bugs upstream too but not everyone knows how to do so
and it may end up being considered noise - plus Ubuntu users normally
are fast on the problem = bug path. Forums and QA such as Shapado may
help alleviate that.

I hope I also cleared up the there is no development. So far Debian
packages and the PPA as I have observed them are keeping up tightly to
the current releases so there should be no need to install .debs directly.

 Bernhard commented on this elsewhere, and said as he sees it, The Ubuntu
 paragraph on the wiki page describes how to handle Ubuntu *specific* bugs. 
 This makes sense, but again doesn't differentiate between the official and
 the PPA.  

There fact there is a paragraph there is highlighting that difference.
If you installed manually .debs, you shouldn't. If you report an Ubuntu
bug and you installed .deb manually, you'll probably be asked to install
using the PPA to remain consistent.

However it is noted that Filing a bug report at FreeDesktop.org
 as described above is also useful as such upstream reports can then be
 checked (and possibly tested and fixed) for other LibreOffice versions. He
 suggested 

Re: [tdf-discuss] Reporting Ubuntu bugs in LO - PPA or Official LO - Clarification needed

2011-02-07 Thread Rene Engelhard
On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 10:16:34AM -0500, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
 I am not sure the PPA was put together initially by TDF but regardless,

Nope.

 you now have Canonical staff looking into it, and Debian has LibO
 packages in the experimental repository, which to me means everything is

http://packages.qa.debian.org/libr/libreoffice/news/20110207T152001Z.html :-)

Grüße/Regards,

René

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Foundation Fundraising

2011-02-07 Thread Benjamin Horst
On Feb 7, 2011, at 9:19 AM, drew wrote:
 Firstly I'd say - slow down a bit - let this idea percolate a bit.
 
 _If_ kickstarter is something of interest then the way to go would be
 IMO to have German nationals open an account in a US bank, and that can
 be done. 

Kickstarter looks like the strongest, but other options exist as well. For 
example, http://www.chipin.com/ is one I've seen used in the past.

-Ben


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Foundation Fundraising

2011-02-07 Thread toki
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On 02/07/2011 01:27 PM, drew wrote:

 A requirement to have to have a US bank account in order to receive funds is 
 not the same thing as saying the money must be dispersed in the US only, is 
 it?

No.

A couple of things to do, before setting up the business account:

* Make sure that you really want to have a business presence in the
state that the bank that handles the account is located in.

* Decide what currency you want the account to be denominated in.
(I don't know how that affects Amazon Processing.)
( I don't know how FDIC works for non US-Dollar denominated accounts.)

* Verify that the bank is financially sound.
(The Federal Reserve Bank is on track to close more financial
institutions this year, than in the previous two years, combined.)

###

If the target is 100.000 €, then it should be a minimum of US$250,000.
(This is to cover currency exchange fees, and the decline in the value
of the US Dollar.)

Disclaimer:
I am not a lawyer.
I am not an accountant.

jonathon
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