[tdf-discuss] EasyHack on EasyHacks
Hi all, Our EasyHacks page here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Easy_Hacks is quite a mess by now as we have so many of them. Also I dont think it is very inviting to newcomers. An really important EasyHack -- that does not even require elite programming skills would be to split that page into multiple topics, so that contributors can find something for their skillset. A possible splitup would be: - Infrastructure (skills: bug trackers, mailinglists, web stuff) - build system (skills: perl, scripting, building) - testing (skill: build, tools like valgrind) - code cleanup (skills: beginners C++) - UI improvements (skills: C++) Any volunteers? Best Regards, Bjoern -- https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: Bug or new feature
Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@pt-global.com writes: Thanks, I get by with PS2PDF but don't get the table of contents working. Yes, AFAIK postscript doesn't support that. If there's some tool that is able to extract and add bookmark information to a PDF, you can try generating the PDF directly from LibO and injecting its bookmarks into the one generated by ps2pdf. With SVG support, may be a conversion of my EPS's to SVG will solve the problem. Cheers, steve On 15/03/11 21:04, Fernand Vanrie wrote: Steve, I filed 2 years ago a issue on OO for that. Indeed it blocks a lot of efforts made to make PDF happen, and the tool is still useless for many (professional) users. EPSvector is still the standard for all graphic applications. Like Micheal says, the code needs a bit more love :-) Some warm, loving love :-) There are at least two issues in OOo bugzilla involving encapsulated postscript - If there is no preview bitmap in the EPS, OOo will generate one. That takes some time, and the preview gets cached, and therefore it can be uncached. I personally saw the worst possible effects of this: a document with several big EPS images would take long scrolling up and down. http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=77068 - The one this thread is about: http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=14163 But, in a nutshell, it is not easy: embedding postscript in PDF needs some kind of conversion. It's not only LibO and OOo, pdflatex also needs vectorial pictures to be in PDF. Rendering eps in OOo/LibO is quite harder than rendering other vectorial formats, because postscript is a programming language, so LibO would need to understand postscript, and would still have to re-interpret it each time the image is displayed. But I'm glad it supports EPS the way it does, it is already helpful. Even if I have to print to postscript, at least I can use eps images directly. Greetz Fernand LO, also OO do not create pdf's correctly from documents containing EPS's. This occurs on 3.3.1 on Suse and OSX. The PDF is not created with the vector data of the EPS but the low resolution bitmap (if there is one) used for positioning. To create a correct PDF I must print to file (PS) and use PS2PDF. Is this a bug? steve -- Nuno J. Silva gopher://sdf-eu.org/1/users/njsg -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Support for Office 2003 file formats (WordML, SpreadsheetML
Hi Peter, I don't really understand the logic behind your suggestion. You want LO to drop support for the defacto-standard file format??? I don't really see any good reason for doing such a completely strategically wrong decision. Cheers! Jaime On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 16:36, Peter Jentsch pj...@guineapics.de wrote: Hi, I'm currently investigating a bug with the Excel 2003 import filter (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35543). Looking closer at the filter and how much work needed to be done to improve it, and considering the fact that Office 2003 ML has been superseeded by OOXML, fixing that bug feels like flogging a dead horse. I'd rather suggest to drop Office 2003 support in LibO altogether and instead focus on improving OOXML and HTML import/export. For anybody with a large library of Office 2003 XML documents not wanting to upgrade to MS Office 2007/2010, Microsoft offers a compatibility pack that allows to open and save OOXML from MS Office 2003. What do you think? Peter -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Support for Office 2003 file formats (WordML, SpreadsheetML
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Jaime R. Garza gar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Peter, I don't really understand the logic behind your suggestion. You want LO to drop support for the defacto-standard file format??? I don't really see any good reason for doing such a completely strategically wrong decision. Cheers! Jaime Although MS stopped free support for MS Office 2003 some time ago, its use is still widespread. It would be a mistake for LibO to support the ill-defined, shifting OOXML and deprecate MS 2003 support. Carl On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 16:36, Peter Jentsch pj...@guineapics.de wrote: Hi, I'm currently investigating a bug with the Excel 2003 import filter (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35543). Looking closer at the filter and how much work needed to be done to improve it, and considering the fact that Office 2003 ML has been superseeded by OOXML, fixing that bug feels like flogging a dead horse. I'd rather suggest to drop Office 2003 support in LibO altogether and instead focus on improving OOXML and HTML import/export. For anybody with a large library of Office 2003 XML documents not wanting to upgrade to MS Office 2007/2010, Microsoft offers a compatibility pack that allows to open and save OOXML from MS Office 2003. What do you think? Peter -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Support for Office 2003 file formats (WordML, SpreadsheetML
On 3/26/11 5:30 PM, Carl Symons wrote: On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Jaime R. Garzagar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Peter, I don't really understand the logic behind your suggestion. You want LO to drop support for the defacto-standard file format??? I don't really see any good reason for doing such a completely strategically wrong decision. Cheers! Jaime Although MS stopped free support for MS Office 2003 some time ago, its use is still widespread. It would be a mistake for LibO to support the ill-defined, shifting OOXML and deprecate MS 2003 support. Carl Carl is it safe to say we could easily depreciate anything prior to 2003, but keep support for 2003 2007 and 2010? On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 16:36, Peter Jentschpj...@guineapics.de wrote: Hi, I'm currently investigating a bug with the Excel 2003 import filter (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35543). Looking closer at the filter and how much work needed to be done to improve it, and considering the fact that Office 2003 ML has been superseeded by OOXML, fixing that bug feels like flogging a dead horse. I'd rather suggest to drop Office 2003 support in LibO altogether and instead focus on improving OOXML and HTML import/export. For anybody with a large library of Office 2003 XML documents not wanting to upgrade to MS Office 2007/2010, Microsoft offers a compatibility pack that allows to open and save OOXML from MS Office 2003. What do you think? Peter -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Support for Office 2003 file formats (WordML, SpreadsheetML
On 3/26/11 5:30 PM, Carl Symons wrote: Although MS stopped free support for MS Office 2003 some time ago, its use is still widespread. It would be a mistake for LibO to support the ill-defined, shifting OOXML and deprecate MS 2003 support. I might be wrong, but Peter was referring to MS Office 2003 XML format, which is different from DOC, XLS and PPT, and was never really used by anyone. Although MS says that the format was propedeutic to OOXML, it is completely different. -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Support for Office 2003 file formats (WordML, SpreadsheetML
snip On Saturday, March 26, 2011 09:30:31 AM Carl Symons wrote: On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Jaime R. Garza gar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Peter, I don't really understand the logic behind your suggestion. You want LO to drop support for the defacto-standard file format??? I don't really see any good reason for doing such a completely strategically wrong decision. Cheers! Jaime Although MS stopped free support for MS Office 2003 some time ago, its use is still widespread. It would be a mistake for LibO to support the ill-defined, shifting OOXML and deprecate MS 2003 support. Carl /snip I constantly recieve office 2003 .xls files from users. If you mean the OOXML files I've never recieved any of them from the users I get spreadsheets from. I doubt they would know what the are. I even get a spreadsheet from a user who uses Win 98. Also the present version of LibreOffice I use has aproblem with an occassional spreadsheet from OpenOffice. I am about ready to report it as a bug. This is just a comment. Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Support for Office 2003 file formats (WordML, SpreadsheetML
On 26 March 2011 16:36, Peter Jentsch pj...@guineapics.de wrote: IMHO I don't think drop office 2003 format is a good idea: a lot of people around still use it. And while you can install the compatibility pack, as you say on your PC, is not possible to force others to install a program, so it can become hardest to exchange files with others. Ercole -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: Support for Office 2003 file formats (WordML, SpreadsheetML
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 15:36:39 + (UTC), Peter Jentsch wrote: Hi, I'm currently investigating a bug with the Excel 2003 import filter (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35543). Looking closer at the filter and how much work needed to be done to improve it, and considering the fact that Office 2003 ML has been superseeded by OOXML, fixing that bug feels like flogging a dead horse. I'd rather suggest to drop Office 2003 support in LibO altogether and instead focus on improving OOXML and HTML import/export. For anybody with a large library of Office 2003 XML documents not wanting to upgrade to MS Office 2007/2010, Microsoft offers a compatibility pack that allows to open and save OOXML from MS Office 2003. What do you think? Peter Sounds like a very reasonable proposal due to the fact that 2003 ML is rarely used. Your biggest problem will be the number of users who don't understand what ML is, and object on spurious grounds. Perhaps you should have just asked on the dev list. -jh -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Support for Office 2003 file formats (WordML, SpreadsheetML
Il 26/03/2011 20:09, Jonathan Hudson ha scritto: On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 15:36:39 + (UTC), Peter Jentsch wrote: Hi, I'm currently investigating a bug with the Excel 2003 import filter (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35543). Looking closer at the filter and how much work needed to be done to improve it, and considering the fact that Office 2003 ML has been superseeded by OOXML, fixing that bug feels like flogging a dead horse. I'd rather suggest to drop Office 2003 support in LibO altogether and instead focus on improving OOXML and HTML import/export. For anybody with a large library of Office 2003 XML documents not wanting to upgrade to MS Office 2007/2010, Microsoft offers a compatibility pack that allows to open and save OOXML from MS Office 2003. What do you think? Peter Sounds like a very reasonable proposal due to the fact that 2003 ML is rarely used. Your biggest problem will be the number of users who don't understand what ML is, and object on spurious grounds. Perhaps you should have just asked on the dev list. -jh rarely??? I think is the most used in the world!!! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Support for Office 2003 file formats (WordML, SpreadsheetML
On 3/26/11 8:35 PM, yahoo-pier_andreit wrote: Sounds like a very reasonable proposal due to the fact that 2003 ML is rarely used. rarely??? I think is the most used in the world!!! MS Office 2003 XML format has nothing to do with DOC, XLS and PPT. It is a different format, based on XML, which - according to Microsoft - is the ancestor of OOXML, almost completely forgotten (the comments show that most people ignore it). DOC, XLS and PPT, unfortunately, are still the most used format in the world. MS Office ML is a different story, and almost anyone has ever used it. It was even worse than OOXML. -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
