Hi All,
Sorry for this off topic but this is serious
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/print/9215419/EC_enters_talks_with_Microsoft_for_new_licenses?taxonomyName=IT+in+GovernmenttaxonomyId=13
If this come true than we (LibreOffice an other FLOSS products) will be down
and out, buried by
Le 05/04/2011 09:42, Kürti László a écrit :
Hi All,
Sorry for this off topic but this is serious
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/print/9215419/EC_enters_talks_with_Microsoft_for_new_licenses?taxonomyName=IT+in+GovernmenttaxonomyId=13
If this come true than we (LibreOffice an other FLOSS
Hello,
the next Steering Committee phone conference will be
Wednesday, April 6th, 1100 UTC
(=1300 European time)
For your date and time, see the converter at
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Please add your desired action items to
Hello Laszlo,
Le Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:42:10 +0200 (CEST),
Kürti László kurti.las...@openskm.com a écrit :
Hi All,
Sorry for this off topic but this is serious
Le Tue, 05 Apr 2011 10:53:47 +0200,
pierre choffardet pierre.choffar...@free.fr a écrit :
Le 05/04/2011 09:42, Kürti László a écrit :
Hi All,
Sorry for this off topic but this is serious
Dear All,
I was asking for verification about the news in subject.
Please find below.
I'm sorry to say but this is true :(
Laszlo
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The commission is committed to getting value for money and negotiates on
behalf of all the E.U. institutions, agencies and other bodies - 42 in all.
Representing such a large number allows us to drive costs down and we will
drive a hard bargain.
How hard a bargain can they drive when the vendor
Charles,
I was asking the European members personally! to take something against it.
We here in Hungary spent the last 5 years with lobbying for only to let the
FLOSS into the public sector. Earlier it was not possible. We had some positive
results 'cause we could refer the EU policies.
But if
I think we also need to examine some of the reasons behind the
reluctance. I've made this particular point before, but I don't think
its significance has been accepted by the OOo/LibO community.
It's hardly possible to use LibO seriously without soon running into a
serious bug. I'm sure we
Mike,
I just couldn't be more different than you.
You are seriously misunderstand the whole problem. This is not about bugs. This
is about standardization, this is about the question of freedom vs slavery.
Anyway we as a company (although not a big one) using OpenOffice.org
exclusively for 5
On 05/04/2011 12:11, Kürti László wrote:
Even with docx, xlsx format could be read and written by OO.o or LibO (or at
least a workaround can be find).
Laslo,
Don't get me wrong, I entirely agree with all your sentiments.
Unfortunately, in practice the description of the situation I gave will
Mike,
Have you ever tried to work with MS office? Have you ever made a doc longer
than 10 pages? How many times you had to reedit those MS docs? Just about every
time you opened it in a different PC.
Pls don't get me wrong, but MS office works just as OO.o or LibO.
And this is not the case, but
Laszlo,
It is not up to TDF to do something, but we have to act, each of us,
individually and collectively to make sure we get results .
Best,
Charles.
Le Tue, 5 Apr 2011 12:22:24 +0200 (CEST),
Kürti László kurti.las...@openskm.com a écrit :
Charles,
I was asking the European members
Laszlo,
I worked for perhaps 15 years with various versions of MSO as both a
power user and as a senior manager with responsibility, inter alia, for
MSO support. I met all the senior international people at the time, from
MS and many other suppliers. During that time, whether with short or
Hello Mike
(since we're all top posting in this thread)...
To claim that MS Office is devoid of bugs is somewhat extravagant.
There have been several versions of MS Office that were plagued with
bugs; people complained but the products continued their roll-out. I
don't think MSOffice dominance
Charles,
I think an appreciation of this point is absolutely crucial to a
successful product, which is why I bang on about it. And I'm only
faithfully recording my own experience.
Unfortunately there is a difference in quality, which implicitly you
seem to recognise. Yes, it's true that
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 18:12:34 PM +0100, Mike Hall
(mike.h...@onepoyle.net) wrote:
The main cost is not the licence, for which in any case large
organisations generally pay very little per desktop. It's user
support that is costly, ie overall cost of ownership.
Mike,
I have a question about
On 5 April 2011 15:56, Mike Hall mike.h...@onepoyle.net wrote:
Laszlo,
I worked for perhaps 15 years with various versions of MSO as both a power
user and as a senior manager with responsibility, inter alia, for MSO
support. I met all the senior international people at the time, from MS and
All.
I tend to agree with Mike on many aspects.
We use 12 instances of LO in our business and I support more privately.
I inter-react with an educational institution and others predominantly
MO, our business is mainly LO.
For a corporation or large entity to adopt LO it must be able to
On 5 April 2011 20:17, M. Fioretti mfiore...@nexaima.net wrote:
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 18:12:34 PM +0100, Mike Hall
(mike.h...@onepoyle.net) wrote:
The main cost is not the licence, for which in any case large
organisations generally pay very little per desktop. It's user
support that is
On 5 April 2011 21:08, Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote:
All.
I tend to agree with Mike on many aspects.
We use 12 instances of LO in our business and I support more privately.
I inter-react with an educational institution and others predominantly MO,
our business is mainly LO.
Steve,
While I understand your points, and Mike's, I can't say I agree with
them particularly.
On one issue we do agree and it is perhaps something to be looked at
by the development team. That is the automatic timed save of documents
while worked on. It is the case that should you lose a
Mike Hall wrote:
Charles,
I think an appreciation of this point is absolutely crucial to a
successful product, which is why I bang on about it. And I'm only
faithfully recording my own experience.
Unfortunately there is a difference in quality, which implicitly you
seem to recognise. Yes,
On 2011-04-06 07:19, Ercole Carpanetto wrote:
On 5 April 2011 21:08, Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote:
All.
I tend to agree with Mike on many aspects.
We use 12 instances of LO in our business and I support more privately.
I inter-react with an educational institution and
Hi Mark.
Possibly the environment that one works in has a significant result on
the problems encountered, and hence why it is hard to debug all problems
because they don't always arise until the environment changes.
I encounter little problem with spread sheets or power point, but mostly
with
Well, how many full-time developers, working 40-hour workweeks, does
Microsoft Office have... and how many OOo and LibO?
If the answer for MO is, say, 300... and the full-time equivalent for OOo /
LibO is 50... then it's pretty much a given that MO will always have a
bigger feature set and be
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