Re: [tdf-discuss] Two simple writer annoyances

2011-04-30 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Ian ,
No , we can not rotate a picture in LO , but LO is not our favorite 
application to handle our pictures and graphics. LO is build to produce 
documents, pictures are taken by camera and for correcting and rotating 
this pictures we can uses hundreds off different and specialised free 
and open) Applications.
BTW: use the wrap and contours to let  flow text around irregular 
shaped objects in LO


Greetz

Fernand


On 29 April 2011 07:28, Krabina Bernhardkrab...@kdz.or.at  wrote:


Hi,

I think there are two annoyances in writer that should not be that hard to
fix. I hope someone can fix these:

1. Why can't writer have image descriptions ABOVE the image as well? It can
do it with tables, but with images, image captions have to be below the
image...

2. Why can't writer have the possibility to rotate an image...


Over 20 years ago I used Impression Publisher and it could rotate graphics
and IIRC flow text around irregular shaped objects. And that was on a
computer with 2 meg of RAM, no hard drive and basically the same ARM
processor as a modern day Smartphone but running at 30 MHz. It could be
argued that few people need these or they are more appropriate to a DTP
program? I use Inkscape and GIMP now for most image preparation, then import
the final product into Writer if it needs to go into a WP. More often than
not though it goes straight onto a web page.



thanx and keep up the good work!

regards,
Berhard


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Two simple writer annoyances

2011-04-30 Thread Ian Lynch
On 30 April 2011 14:03, Fernand Vanrie s...@pmgroup.be wrote:

 Ian ,
 No , we can not rotate a picture in LO , but LO is not our favorite
 application to handle our pictures and graphics. LO is build to produce
 documents, pictures are taken by camera and for correcting and rotating this
 pictures we can uses hundreds off different and specialised free and open)
 Applications.


But you could say you could prepare text in a text editor and just import it
so no need for text tools. All I was pointing out was that I used a document
processor over 20 years ago that could rotate, pan, scale, crop graphics etc
in situation. All of those things are useful to be able to do without having
to go back to a different application. Granted, it's not a big issue for me,
just an observation.

BTW: use the wrap and contours to let  flow text around irregular shaped
 objects in LO


But not in 2 meg of RAM and a 30 MHz processor :-)



 Greetz

 Fernand


  On 29 April 2011 07:28, Krabina Bernhardkrab...@kdz.or.at  wrote:

  Hi,

 I think there are two annoyances in writer that should not be that hard
 to
 fix. I hope someone can fix these:

 1. Why can't writer have image descriptions ABOVE the image as well? It
 can
 do it with tables, but with images, image captions have to be below the
 image...

 2. Why can't writer have the possibility to rotate an image...

  Over 20 years ago I used Impression Publisher and it could rotate
 graphics
 and IIRC flow text around irregular shaped objects. And that was on a
 computer with 2 meg of RAM, no hard drive and basically the same ARM
 processor as a modern day Smartphone but running at 30 MHz. It could be
 argued that few people need these or they are more appropriate to a DTP
 program? I use Inkscape and GIMP now for most image preparation, then
 import
 the final product into Writer if it needs to go into a WP. More often than
 not though it goes straight onto a web page.


  thanx and keep up the good work!

 regards,
 Berhard


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums - A Different Question

2011-04-30 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Harold Fuchs wrote:
 Has Oracle given permission for TDF to use its forum, or doesn't TDF need 
 such permission? Does TDF *want* to use an Oracle resource?

I think Drew has already explained this on multiple mailing lists,
anyway: the forums at http://user.services.openoffice.org/ are run by
community members and not by Oracle, they explicitly include LibreOffice
among the supported software (see page header), they can be used with no
need for permissions from Oracle, and they are probably the best place
where LibreOffice users can get support if they don't like mailing
lists.

Regards,
  Andrea.


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[tdf-discuss] Re: Two simple writer annoyances

2011-04-30 Thread plino
@Ian

 Over 20 years ago I used Impression Publisher and it could rotate graphics 

You are confusing programs: a Word Processor (such as LibreOffice Writer) is
not a Desktop Publishing software.

I suggest that you use the FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) Desktop
Publisher named Scribus

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[tdf-discuss] Re: Two simple writer annoyances

2011-04-30 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-04-30 19:05, plino a écrit :

@Ian


Over 20 years ago I used Impression Publisher and it could rotate graphics


You are confusing programs: a Word Processor (such as LibreOffice Writer) is
not a Desktop Publishing software.

I suggest that you use the FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) Desktop
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I think the point being made here is that 20 years ago, a desktop 
publishing suite could rotate graphics and that you would imagine, with 
20 years of development, the rotation of graphics would be achievable in 
a wordprocessing suite.


I tend to agree, if we are going to have any useful base line 
manipulation of graphics in LibreOffice, the rotation of graphics should 
be one of these abilities. This could also be a way of having our 
wordprocessing suite distinguishing itself from any other suites.


This ability could be well suggested as a feature request on bugzilla. 
We have many talented devs who may want to pick up this challenge.


Cheers

Marc


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[tdf-discuss] Re: Two simple writer annoyances

2011-04-30 Thread plino
This could also be a way of having our
wordprocessing suite distinguishing itself from any other suites. 

I think you mean from OpenOffice and Symphony? MS Word and Softmaker's
Textmaker already do this in 90 degree steps (clockwise and counter)--
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[tdf-discuss] Re: Two simple writer annoyances

2011-04-30 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-04-30 21:49, plino a écrit :

This could also be a way of having our
wordprocessing suite distinguishing itself from any other suites.


I think you mean from OpenOffice and Symphony? MS Word and Softmaker's
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Thanks for the link. I am on Gmane.

Marc


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Two simple writer annoyances

2011-04-30 Thread Alexander Ostuni
Yes, it is build to produce Dokuments and because of that I need to 
rotate a picture. I work in a bank. We have restrictions on the 
installed programms. I am not allowed to install any application that 
can rotate pictures.
I have to create our formulars/documents. Each of them has a barcode. I 
get the barcodes horizontally but need them vertically in the 
formulars/dokuments.
In MS word I can rotate them, in LO (wich is allowed in our bank and 
also the software we shall use over Word) not, so I can't use LO but 
have to use Word.


So,a big yes. I need that function, too.

Alex

Fernand Vanrie schrieb:

Ian ,
No , we can not rotate a picture in LO , but LO is not our favorite 
application to handle our pictures and graphics. LO is build to 
produce documents, pictures are taken by camera and for correcting and 
rotating this pictures we can uses hundreds off different and 
specialised free and open) Applications.
BTW: use the wrap and contours to let  flow text around irregular 
shaped objects in LO


Greetz

Fernand


On 29 April 2011 07:28, Krabina Bernhardkrab...@kdz.or.at  wrote:


Hi,

I think there are two annoyances in writer that should not be that 
hard to

fix. I hope someone can fix these:

1. Why can't writer have image descriptions ABOVE the image as well? 
It can

do it with tables, but with images, image captions have to be below the
image...

2. Why can't writer have the possibility to rotate an image...

Over 20 years ago I used Impression Publisher and it could rotate 
graphics

and IIRC flow text around irregular shaped objects. And that was on a
computer with 2 meg of RAM, no hard drive and basically the same ARM
processor as a modern day Smartphone but running at 30 MHz. It could be
argued that few people need these or they are more appropriate to a DTP
program? I use Inkscape and GIMP now for most image preparation, then 
import
the final product into Writer if it needs to go into a WP. More often 
than

not though it goes straight onto a web page.



thanx and keep up the good work!

regards,
Berhard


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