[tdf-discuss] Custom properties

2011-05-17 Thread rise_mini
Hi,

I am using Libreoffice 3.3.2.
I have created one document having custom properties.

Properties are preserved in .odt format.
But when i save as the same document with .doc format all the custom
properties have gone.

Why it is happening ?
It was working fine with openoffice 3.2.

Thanks,
rise_mini



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Re: [tdf-discuss] Custom properties

2011-05-17 Thread Christophe Strobbe
Hi,

On Mon, 16 May 2011 22:54:55 -0700 (PDT), rise_mini
meenakshi.kanau...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am using Libreoffice 3.3.2.
 I have created one document having custom properties.
 
 Properties are preserved in .odt format.
 But when i save as the same document with .doc format all the custom
 properties have gone.

Are the custom properties only lost after exporting to .DOC or are they
lost when you simply close the .ODT file? There is a bug for Writer not
recognising the addition of custom properties as a file change:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32177: Bug 32177 - Writer
does not perceive addition of custom document properties as a change for
saving.

Best regards,

Christophe Strobbe

 
 Why it is happening ?
 It was working fine with openoffice 3.2.
 
 Thanks,
 rise_mini

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[tdf-discuss] Re: Custom properties

2011-05-17 Thread rise_mini
Hi,

I have created one document in LibreOffice Writer.
It has some custom properties.

Firstly I saved it with .odt format.
Close and re-open.
.odt format document has all the custom properties.

Save as with .doc format.
Before closing it has all the properties.

Close and re-open .doc format document.
All the custom properties are gone.


Thanks,
rise_mini

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 Hi,

 On Mon, 16 May 2011 22:54:55 -0700 (PDT), rise_mini
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 wrote:
  I am using Libreoffice 3.3.2.
  I have created one document having custom properties.
 
  Properties are preserved in .odt format.
  But when i save as the same document with .doc format all the custom
  properties have gone.

 Are the custom properties only lost after exporting to .DOC or are they
 lost when you simply close the .ODT file? There is a bug for Writer not
 recognising the addition of custom properties as a file change:
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32177: Bug 32177 - Writer
 does not perceive addition of custom document properties as a change for
 saving.

 Best regards,

 Christophe Strobbe

 
  Why it is happening ?
  It was working fine with openoffice 3.2.
 
  Thanks,
  rise_mini

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[tdf-discuss] Re: Custom properties

2011-05-17 Thread rise_mini
Hi,

I am using LibreOffice 3.3.2 on Ubuntu 10.04.
Same problem with calc and impress.

Thanks,

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Meenakshi Kanaujia 
meenakshi.kanau...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I have created one document in LibreOffice Writer.
 It has some custom properties.

 Firstly I saved it with .odt format.
 Close and re-open.
 .odt format document has all the custom properties.

 Save as with .doc format.
 Before closing it has all the properties.

 Close and re-open .doc format document.
 All the custom properties are gone.


 Thanks,
 rise_mini


 On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Christophe Strobbe [via Document
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 ml-node+2951649-1549929746-400...@n3.nabble.comwrote:

 Hi,

 On Mon, 16 May 2011 22:54:55 -0700 (PDT), rise_mini
 [hidden email] http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=2951649i=0
 wrote:
  I am using Libreoffice 3.3.2.
  I have created one document having custom properties.
 
  Properties are preserved in .odt format.
  But when i save as the same document with .doc format all the custom
  properties have gone.

 Are the custom properties only lost after exporting to .DOC or are they
 lost when you simply close the .ODT file? There is a bug for Writer not
 recognising the addition of custom properties as a file change:
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32177: Bug 32177 - Writer

 does not perceive addition of custom document properties as a change for
 saving.

 Best regards,

 Christophe Strobbe

 
  Why it is happening ?
  It was working fine with openoffice 3.2.
 
  Thanks,
  rise_mini

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[tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-17 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 17/05/11 12:49, plino a écrit :

Hi plino,


 What do they mean by handing it back? Are they giving up on the OpenOffice
 brand?
 
 Can someone from TDF shed some light?

Nobody seems to know, or if they do, they are keeping wraps on it. The
people still around on the openoffice.org lists are equally at a loss as
to what is really going on. Oracle has just shutdown comms. On the
German OOo discuss list, some people have been alluding to the fact that
the lights are being switched off in Hamburg where the majority of OOo
development took place, and I have noticed a distinct reduction of input
from Oracle employees on the OOo lists for a while now, not a complete
lack, but certainly a significant reduction bordering on the void.

Alex


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-17 Thread BRM
- Original Message 

 From: Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com
 Le 17/05/11 12:49, plino a écrit :
  What do they  mean by handing it back? Are they giving up on the 
OpenOffice
   brand?
  
  Can someone from TDF shed some light?
 
 Nobody  seems to know, or if they do, they are keeping wraps on it. The
 people still  around on the openoffice.org lists are equally at a loss as
 to what is really going on. Oracle has just  shutdown comms. On the
 German OOo discuss list, some people have been  alluding to the fact that
 the lights are being switched off in Hamburg where  the majority of OOo
 development took place, and I have noticed a distinct  reduction of input
 from Oracle employees on the OOo lists for a while now,  not a complete
 lack, but certainly a significant reduction bordering on the  void.
 


Not saying that this is related at all, but the timing was rather interesting 
on 
the whole situation.
I was at a conference in late March where a presenter talked about OpenOffice 
and LibreOffice for business uses; a couple Oracle folks were there.
Over the course of it, we ended up mentioning the Copyright Assignment issue 
and 
the LibreOffice would be able to get updates from OpenOffice but not vice versa 
as a result - at least those two employees were not aware of that issue.
So, don't know what's happening, and not saying that's related at all, but it 
was just very interesting timing overall.

Personally I hope Oracle doesn't drop the ball on it and that OpenOffice proper 
can become a true community lead project as I haven't yet seen anything from 
the 
leadership of TDF to give me confidence they are not doing the same thing they 
blamed Oracle for, just in a slightly different fashion. (Thus why I've been 
lurking more.)

Ben


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-17 Thread Italo Vignoli

On 5/17/11 4:17 PM, BRM wrote:


Personally I hope Oracle doesn't drop the ball on it and that OpenOffice proper
can become a true community lead project as I haven't yet seen anything from the
leadership of TDF to give me confidence they are not doing the same thing they
blamed Oracle for, just in a slightly different fashion. (Thus why I've been
lurking more.)


Being a member of the Steering Committee of TDF, and having some 
problems in understanding the meaning of your sentence, may I ask you to 
be more specific on the same thing they blamed Oracle for? Thanks.


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[tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-17 Thread plino
@Italo, since you are indeed a member of the SC, can you share with the
community more information about the original topic, please?

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Re: [tdf-discuss] OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-17 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Plino,

plino wrote (17-05-11 12:49)


[...]
What do they mean by handing it back? Are they giving up on the OpenOffice
brand?

Can someone from TDF shed some light?


Probably it will not surprise you when I say that to me it looks best if 
activities are combined as much as possible, in some form. Anyway that 
is how I understand open source.
But since all depends from how Oracle will handle the situation, I am as 
curious as you are on what is going to happen.


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[tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-17 Thread e-letter
Keeping OO separate from LO is a good thing overall; more actors in
the open source office software sector gives healthy competition (like
Opera and Firefox for web browsers), innovation and shows m$ users the
benefits of using a non-proprietary document format.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-17 Thread Italo Vignoli

On 05/17/2011 05:17 PM, plino wrote:


@Italo, since you are indeed a member of the SC, can you share with the
community more information about the original topic, please?


Apart from reiterating that we see one community going forward, as we 
always did (when we originally invited Oracle to join TDF), we do not 
have more information than those available to all of you. Every other 
comment on the future of OOo would be a speculation.


I can only add that Oracle fiscal year ends on May 31, and this is 
prolly a deadline for a second announcement about the future of OOo.


I can also suggest to have a look at Oracle SEC filings, which are 
available on Oracle web site, and especially presentations to analysts 
and Forms 10-Q (2009 and 2010). These documents provide an insight on 
investments and product strategies, and might help in understanding.


But, again, given the amount of informations available, any comment on 
the future of OOo would be a speculation.


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