Re: [steering-discuss] Fwd: Manifiesto de apoyo.
Good idea. Can you fwd to the website list? Olivier Hallot wrote on 2011-06-19 02.59: Can we add them to the support page? -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Joining the OASIS Consortium
Hi, Tom Davies wrote on 2011-06-18 21.33: For things such as annual subscriptions and stuff it makes sense to deal with it now so that the BoD don't have to worry about it until next year. The OASIS thing sounds like a lot of money to me but people that know what it offers are all saying yes, by the sounds of it, so i think maybe just do it. well, I would wait for the BoD, but seems I am alone with this position. :-) This is ok, but keep in mind, that at the moment we neither should spend the money nor make any contracts, so let's wait until the foundation really exists before acting legally. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Joining the OASIS Consortium
Hello Dennis, I guess I can answer as I also happen to be one of the directors of the OASIS... :-) 2011/6/19 Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org Since I am receiving reminders about my individual membership in OASIS, I can answer that question: No. There is no specific enrollment period or fixed calendar of memberships. Annual memberships are for the full year from the day a membership application is accepted. Yes indeed. The membership registration phase is rather simple, but the time to get the new member representative and/or the team acquainted with the various tools, intranet, etc. usually takes some time. Since you are talking about an institutional membership, there will need to be an official who approves the participation of others on individual OASIS Technical Committees. Also, there are IP-policy conditions that apply to membership and contribution to each OASIS TC. TC members affiliated with TDF should not have a conflict with requirements that they are subject to as a condition of their employment elsewhere. The relevant page is here: http://oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/ipr In short, when it comes to ODF or CMIS the OASIS consortium requires anyone to leave its patents at the door and renounce any claim to royalty. I think TDF members will agree to it :) I also don't know how closely associated someone must be with the TDF to be able to participate under the TDF membership in OASIS. If that is not clear from the application information for organizations, I am sure there are contacts who can answer any questions about that. I would suggest that one should be a member of TDF/LibreOffice project. I would also suggest that if the interested person would like to contribute technical work to the OASIS TC(s) he/she should apply first to the ESC; if it's for other (such as the Adoption TC or a more general role) he/she should be appointed by the SC/Bod. That said, Dennis, am I to understand you'd be interested in contributing to the OASIS under the TDF umbrella? Best, Charles. - Dennis -Original Message- From: drew [mailto:d...@baseanswers.com] Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 11:24 To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Joining the OASIS Consortium On Sat, 2011-06-18 at 20:18 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-06-18 16.50: I think that if we go down that path we'll lose some valuable time revoting on it. The SC's mission ends when the BoD is elected and that is very clear, but until then, if decisions have to be made we should not refrain from making them. (Although I understand the need not to rush anything - but joining the OASIS is not exactly a rushed decision). well, I have no problem with deciding, but still, decisions are not binding for the future BoD, so we should keep that in mind. :-) Hi, Just wondering, is there some membership window, a period of time each year when new memberships are accepted at OASIS? Is that an issue here? Thanks Drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice +US Gov't ECCN Export Control
Hi Ben, * Am 18.06.11 21:37, schrieb BRM: AIUI it would be a good idea for the TDF to consult it's US legal team about whether this is really the case... Very much so, especially since from what Export Control training I have had, even a patch from a developer in the US would be considered an export to TDF/LO and thereby require an export license. IANAL, and that may fly under the radar easily; but it is something to have the legal team consider. Citing [1]: Firms exporting products that are subject to EAR must apply for an export license, unless the transaction qualifies for a license exception or “No License Required” (NLR) treatment. When a Shippers Export Declaration (SED) is required for the export transaction (for shipments over $2,500 value, those requiring an export license, or those going to countries that have been designated as terrorist supporting countries), the ECCN must be provided. Obviously, LO is not a Firm nor does the value of the exported product exceed 2.500$. So we need no SED and maybe that qualifies for an NLR teatment ;-) [1] http://www.export.gov/logistics/eg_main_018803.asp -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Uwe Altmann -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice +US Gov't ECCN Export Control
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Uwe Altmann o...@altsys.de wrote: Hi Ben, * Am 18.06.11 21:37, schrieb BRM: AIUI it would be a good idea for the TDF to consult it's US legal team about whether this is really the case... Very much so, especially since from what Export Control training I have had, even a patch from a developer in the US would be considered an export to TDF/LO and thereby require an export license. IANAL, and that may fly under the radar easily; but it is something to have the legal team consider. Citing [1]: Firms exporting products that are subject to EAR must apply for an export license, unless the transaction qualifies for a license exception or “No License Required” (NLR) treatment. When a Shippers Export Declaration (SED) is required for the export transaction (for shipments over $2,500 value, those requiring an export license, or those going to countries that have been designated as terrorist supporting countries), the ECCN must be provided. Obviously, LO is not a Firm nor does the value of the exported product exceed 2.500$. So we need no SED and maybe that qualifies for an NLR teatment ;-) Over at Apache, we found compliance quick and easy [1][2][3] Robert [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/crypto.html [2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/ [3] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Brasilian Community releases DVD .iso image
thanks. 2011/6/19 drew d...@baseanswers.com Hi, Just wanted to say 'Good Job!' to the members of the Brasilian community for getting the DVD .iso distribution for LibreOffice 3.3.3 out in such a timely way. http://dvd.brasil.libreofficebox.org/ Best wishes, Drew Jensen -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Klaibson Ribeiro Tel: (48) 9625-8273 www.creativesolucoes.com.br -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Brasilian Community releases DVD .iso image
PARABENS ;-) ## Manfred - (android) mobil - please excuse typos Am 19.06.2011 16:40 schrieb Klaibson Ribeiro klaib...@gmail.com: thanks. 2011/6/19 drew d...@baseanswers.com Hi, Just wanted to say 'Good Job!' to the members of the Brasilian community for getting the DVD .iso distribution for LibreOffice 3.3.3 out in such a timely way. http://dvd.brasil.libreofficebox.org/ Best wishes, Drew Jensen -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Klaibson Ribeiro Tel: (48) 9625-8273 www.creativesolucoes.com.br -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice +US Gov't ECCN Export Control
On 19/06/2011 11:34, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: Over at Apache, we found compliance quick and easy [1][2][3] I'm not sure compliance for LibO is as simple and straightforward as you imply. For starters, code, amongst other things, that is either from, or benefits users in North Korea, Cuba, and Syria was been submitted to OOo. At one point, it was included in the nightly developer patch.(Artefacts of that code are present in OOo 3.3.) Ideally, TDF has a lawyer in the US that specializes in OFAC, EAR, ITAR, and related critters, and their intersection with software development and distribution. Other countries do have similar lists, with similar restrictions. In an ideal world, TDF can find a lawyer that specializes in the country's equivalent critters and the rules that they fabricate, and how those rules intersects with software development and distribution. Which means lawyers in all 192/193/194/195/196/203/248/255/320 countries in the world would need to be contacted. (If you have a question about the number of countries I list, start a new thread, without derailing this thread.) jonathon -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))
On 18/06/2011 09:39, Simos Xenitellis wrote: The spirit does go well beyond the letter. Ideally, the 'git repositories' should be what everyone gets, rather than a source code snapshot that has no source change history. A couple of years ago I sent a question to FSF about meeting source code requirements for GPLG programs. Specifically, I asked if substituting the entire current code repository was acceptable, rather than a tarball of the specific code that was (supposedly) used. Their response was that the repository was acceptable. They also suggested that a ReadMe file that contained the instructions on pulling the code that the program used be included on the DVD. jonathon -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth requesting. DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
