[tdf-discuss] Re: Question re: Oracle Report Builder and "Sun java", "java openjdk"

2011-07-17 Thread NoOp
On 07/16/2011 06:53 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
> I have just installed Mageia Linux on a couple of boxes and due to the 
> fact that some of the websites the owners of these boxes wish to access 
> work best with "sun java", I removed "java openjdk". This then led to a 
> warning that the "Oracle report builder" would be removed.
> 
> I then uninstalled "java openjdk" and then tried to reinstall "Oracle 
> report builder" without "java openjdk" which was impossible to do.
> 
> I was wondering "Oracle report builder" entirely dependent of "java 
> openjdk"? It doesn't look like it will work with "sun java".
...
For my distro's version of report builder (Ubuntu) I show:
$ apt-cache depends openoffice.org-report-builder
openoffice.org-report-builder
  Depends: libbase-java-openoffice.org
  Depends: libsac-java
  Depends: libxml-java-openoffice.org
  Depends: libflute-java-openoffice.org
  Depends: libpentaho-reporting-flow-engine-java-openoffice.org
  Depends: liblayout-java-openoffice.org
  Depends: libloader-java-openoffice.org
  Depends: libformula-java-openoffice.org
  Depends: librepository-java-openoffice.org
  Depends: libfonts-java-openoffice.org
  Depends: libserializer-java-openoffice.org
  Depends: libcommons-logging-java
  Depends: openoffice.org-report-builder-bin
  Depends: openoffice.org-core
  Depends: openoffice.org-java-common
  PreDepends: openoffice.org-common
 |PreDepends: default-jre
 |PreDepends: gcj-jre
 |PreDepends: 
gcj-jre
 |PreDepends: openjdk-6-jre
 |PreDepends: 
 |PreDepends: sun-java6-jre
 |PreDepends: 
default-jre
gcj-4.4-jre
gcj-4.5-jre
gcj-jre
openjdk-6-jre
sun-java6-jre
  PreDepends: 
  Conflicts: openoffice.org-java-common
  Conflicts: 
  Conflicts: ure
  Replaces: 
openoffice.org-report-builder
  Enhances: openoffice.org-base

Comments on:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/reportdesign
aren't exactly stellar...

That said, LO 3.4.1 shows that Report Builder 1.2.1 is installed (and
working):
/opt/libreoffice3.4/share/extensions/report-builder
and the readme_en-US.txt file shows:

System Requirements

* A recent version of Oracle Open Office or OpenOffice.org
* A recent version of the Java(TM) Runtime Environment


And these are the only 'java' that I have installed:
$ sudo update-alternatives --config java
There are 2 choices for the alternative java (providing /usr/bin/java).

  SelectionPath  Priority   Status

  0/usr/bin/gij-4.4   1044  auto mode
  1/usr/bin/gij-4.4   1044  manual mode
* 2/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java   63manual mode



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[tdf-discuss] Re: Feature Request: Mac Osx Lion

2011-07-17 Thread Larry Gusaas


On 2011/07/17 10:06 AM  Robert Derman wrote:

Laurence Jeloudev wrote:

Hi,

I was wondering if Libreoffice would implement an auto save feature in
os x lion and full screen app support, or maybe an auto save feature
that is similar but it can also be Implemented in other operating
systems like ubuntu or windows where the user does not have to worry
about saving a document at all?
LibreOffice and OpenOffice before it have had an auto save function built in for years.  It 
is so completely integrated that many users are not even aware of it.  I believe that it is 
set to auto save every 5 minutes by default.

Auto Save and Versions on Lion do a lot more than just do a basic backup. For 
details see:
http://www.apple.com/ca/macosx/whats-new/auto-save.html

Larry
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Feature Request: Mac Osx Lion

2011-07-17 Thread Robert Derman

Laurence Jeloudev wrote:

Hi,

I was wondering if Libreoffice would implement an auto save feature in
os x lion and full screen app support, or maybe an auto save feature
that is similar but it can also be Implemented in other operating
systems like ubuntu or windows where the user does not have to worry
about saving a document at all?
  
LibreOffice and OpenOffice before it have had an auto save function 
built in for years.  It is so completely integrated that many users are 
not even aware of it.  I believe that it is set to auto save every 5 
minutes by default. 


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Fwd: [tdf-discuss] Feature Request: Mac Osx Lion

2011-07-17 Thread Laurence Jeloudev
Sorry never really replied to a mailing list before just checking this went
through.

Laurence Jeloudev
ljelou...@gmail.com

Begin forwarded message:

*From:* Laurence Jeloudev 
*Date:* 17 July 2011 20:34:01 AEST
*To:* Laurence Jeloudev 
*Subject:* *Re: [tdf-discuss] Feature Request: Mac Osx Lion*

By the way, I am using the auto save options in libreoffice. They do
work 99% of when I don't loose a document is the one percent where
saving a document and knowing you don't need to save it because you
know it will be their when you open the office suite again and then
you can save it to a folder or somewhere else, and you will always
know that it is saved every single character of it 100%.

Laurence Jeloudev
ljelou...@gmail.com

On 17/07/2011, at 20:29, Laurence Jeloudev  wrote:

The only problem is that this feature is I think integrated into the

os x lion operating system so it is constantly backing up the file

with the os x lion API which is integrated with the a feature called

versions which saves different versions of the document on to the hard

drive which I think also integrates with Mac os x lion's time machine.

I am not sure because mac os x lion is not out yet.


Laurence Jeloudev

ljelou...@gmail.com


On 17/07/2011, at 20:23, Laurence Jeloudev  wrote:


I think the ability is not saving.  The problem is with office suites

is that you always have to save your document so you don't loose your

work.  As Mac os x auto save feature is implemented so that you do not

save a document it is done automatically by any changes that you do in

a document. So it doesn't bug you to save the document before you

close it you just open it up how it was before. And you don't have to

worry about not saving your work.


www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/auto-save.html


Laurence Jeloudev

ljelou...@gmail.com


On 17/07/2011, at 20:09, MiguelAngel  wrote:


Have you see in Menu/Tools/Options/Load-Save/General - Save

Autorecovery information every and Always create backup copy?El 17/07/11
9:57, Laurence Jeloudev escribi:Hi,



I was wondering if Libreoffice would implement an auto save feature in

os x lion and full screen app support, or maybe an auto save feature

that is similar but it can also be Implemented in other operating

systems like ubuntu or windows where the user does not have to worry

about saving a document at all?

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Feature Request: Mac Osx Lion

2011-07-17 Thread Laurence Jeloudev
I think the ability is not saving.  The problem is with office suites
is that you always have to save your document so you don't loose your
work.  As Mac os x auto save feature is implemented so that you do not
save a document it is done automatically by any changes that you do in
a document. So it doesn't bug you to save the document before you
close it you just open it up how it was before. And you don't have to
worry about not saving your work.

www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/auto-save.html

Laurence Jeloudev
ljelou...@gmail.com

On 17/07/2011, at 20:09, MiguelAngel  wrote:

> Have you see in Menu/Tools/Options/Load-Save/General - Save
>Autorecovery information every and Always create backup copy?El 17/07/11 
> 9:57, Laurence Jeloudev escribi:Hi,
>
>
> I was wondering if Libreoffice would implement an auto save feature in
> os x lion and full screen app support, or maybe an auto save feature
> that is similar but it can also be Implemented in other operating
> systems like ubuntu or windows where the user does not have to worry
> about saving a document at all?
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[tdf-discuss] Re: Question re: Oracle Report Builder and "Sun java", "java openjdk"

2011-07-17 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-07-17 06:04, MiguelAngel a écrit :

Have you try to set Java in Menu/Tools/OOo/Java?.El 17/07/11 9:53, Marc 
Parescribi:Le
   2011-07-16 23:04, Richard acrit :I have had them both installed at the 
same
 time.Never bothered to remove whichever was installed first.Just takes a bit 
more room.Some apps prefer one over the other.It just seems that the Report Builder has 
been "hard coded" to use
   the Openjdk java rather than use any java.CheersMarc


Yes, I tried to first set Java to the sun version, then uninstalled 
Openjdk java and it removed Report Builder also.


Cheers

Marc


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Question re: Oracle Report Builder and "Sun java", "java openjdk"

2011-07-17 Thread MiguelAngel
Have you try to set Java in Menu/Tools/OOo/Java?.El 17/07/11 9:53, Marc 
Parescribi:Le
  2011-07-16 23:04, Richard acrit :I have had them both installed at the 
same
time.Never bothered to remove whichever was installed first.Just takes 
a bit more room.Some apps prefer one over the other.It just seems that the 
Report Builder has been "hard coded" to use
  the Openjdk java rather than use any java.CheersMarc
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Feature Request: Mac Osx Lion

2011-07-17 Thread MiguelAngel
Have you see in Menu/Tools/Options/Load-Save/General - Save
Autorecovery information every and Always create backup copy?El 17/07/11 
9:57, Laurence Jeloudev escribi:Hi,


I was wondering if Libreoffice would implement an auto save feature in
os x lion and full screen app support, or maybe an auto save feature
that is similar but it can also be Implemented in other operating
systems like ubuntu or windows where the user does not have to worry
about saving a document at all?
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[tdf-discuss] Feature Request: Mac Osx Lion

2011-07-17 Thread Laurence Jeloudev
Hi,

I was wondering if Libreoffice would implement an auto save feature in
os x lion and full screen app support, or maybe an auto save feature
that is similar but it can also be Implemented in other operating
systems like ubuntu or windows where the user does not have to worry
about saving a document at all?

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[tdf-discuss] Re: Question re: Oracle Report Builder and "Sun java", "java openjdk"

2011-07-17 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-07-16 23:04, Richard a écrit :

I have had them both installed at the same time.
Never bothered to remove whichever was installed first.
Just takes a bit more room.
Some apps prefer one over the other.




It just seems that the Report Builder has been "hard coded" to use the 
Openjdk java rather than use any java.

Cheers

Marc



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