Re: [tdf-discuss] LO Base Enhancements
Am 28.07.2014 22:47, schrieb Cor Nouws: Hi Nigel, Nigel Verity wrote on 28-07-14 21:58: [...] HSQLDB seems to be powerful in terms of its support for complex SQL execution, but it is relatively slow and inefficient when there is a large number of records. Indeed that has been noticed. As from LibreOffice 4.2.0 in the experimental features there is the option to use Firebird, that will bring improvements as you describe. See https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.2#Experimental_Features (To turn on: Tools Options Advanced) Mmh. I'm using Version: 4.2.4.2 Build-ID: 420m0(Build:2) under Ubuntu, but don't have the option to use firebird embedded. I did install the libreoffice-sdbc-firebird and depending packages and I've also switched on the expermimental features. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Font Embedding in ODF (was RE: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review)
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 01:25:47 -0700 (PDT) plino pedl...@gmail.com wrote: In any case, if LibreOffice's goal is to be a suite that stands behind the ODF format then it should review what it promises. If it can't embed fonts, it can never be a replacement for MS Office. Does MS Office embed fonts? Manfred -- Manfred Usselmann usselman...@icg-online.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] New LibreOffice Reader Eliminates Need for PDF Reader
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 17:06:17 -0400 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Charles H. Schultz has informed us that the OASIS group has no intention of embedding fonts for v.1.2, 1.3 or any future versions, so getting the same type of fidelity from a LibreOffice Reader will not be possible. In this case, if one were to wish to print from the LibO Reader, if the font used in the document is absent from the system, then the system would look for the closest approximate font to the original font. That's one of the reasons why I prefer to distribute the final version of a document as PDF, which is pretty well supported by LibreOffice. So, getting the same quality of print from a LibreOffice Reader would not be possible without having the font embedded in the file. I still think that a LibreOffice Reader would be useful for those who do not have the LibreOffice suite installed on their machine. In this case they would most likely have another office suite or text processing program installed. Since we are using a standard file format, they should be able to use our document with their software. Isn't that one of the advantages of a standard document format? Being independent from the specific text program and it's vendor? This would give the user the choice of using the reader to view the file without the need of the full-blown suite and without having the need to use the Acrobat Reader. As mentioned there is no need to use Acrobat Reader, there are other more lightweight readers available. I still believe that PDF is the best solution to distribute final versions of text (and mybe other office) documents. For testing purposes I've just installed Okular under Windows and it was really easy (See http://windows.kde.org/). Again, our user base and the fact that our reader would be created in-house would be enough to give the LibreOffice Reader enough impetuous for adoption by our users and non-users of the suite. Not sure that our users really need an additional reader version of LibreOffice since that have already the complete suite installed. There is one use-case I could think of though: If the reader would be leightweight and easy to install and would be able to run open document presentations, it might be handy to use for presentations at different locations or to pass along with the impress file. I think supplying a LibreOffice Reader is just as important as providing the plugins needed for viewing files in a browser (LibreOffice Tools-Internet-Browser plug-in). Providing tools to popularize our distro is important. Manfred -- Manfred Usselmann usselman...@icg-online.de ICG IT Consulting GmbH, Kelkheim -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 21:21:34 +0200 Goran Rakic gra...@devbase.net wrote: У пет, 24. 06 2011. у 14:03 -0500, Robert Derman пише: As long as ODF has this inherent limitation it WILL NEVER SUCCEED as a universal document exchange format!!! Different formats exists with different goals. But there is this great thing called hybrid PDF document - it is a PDF with ODF embedded. Interesting, didn't know about this! I was just going to propose something similiar: ODF documents with embedded PDF files for read-only and exact output purposes. You can view it in any PDF reader pixel-perfect, or open it as editable to create new works. So I do not need to have two versions of the document on my harddrive (odt and pdf) any longer. But I assume it is not possible to open that file with other ODF compatible programs, or is it possible to extract the odf document somehow? It is not just about fonts, you have page page size and margins, page breaks, dynamic text, binary objects... But most of this should already be part of the ODF document? If I am not mistaken, ODF does not specify how the output should exactly look, but more how it should feel. You can have a compliant ODF viewer targeting small screens, just like with HTML. Manfred -- Manfred Usselmann usselman...@icg-online.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 01:18:34 +0200 Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org wrote: 1. We want to add a paragraph somewhere in the About dialog box which says that if we are interested in the source code, we should read a specific Wiki page, for example http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AvailabilityOfSourceCode I see a problem here. Usually GNU/Linux distributions make modifications to the original source code. That means that the *real* source code will be the one from your distro and not the one you can download from the LibO website, hence the information will be misleading. In this case the distributions could modifiy the about box as well and change the link accordingly... Or just add an additional link to their specific version. We provide all the required source tarballs for each version and every piece of code is in our git repository. So we fulfill all the requirements but we have the problem that it's not easy to find. I guess writing a good text about how to get the source code for every version and place it in our download page (or a link to the wiki page) is good enough. Should be sufficient as well. Manfred -- Manfred Usselmann usselman...@icg-online.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:12:32 +0200 Simon Brouwer simon.o...@xs4all.nl wrote: Hi Jim, all, Jim Jagielski schreef: On Jun 8, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: On 8 Jun 2011, at 23:49, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Jun 8, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Simon Brouwer wrote: Op 6-6-2011 11:37, toki schreef: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/06/2011 15:00, Jim Jagielski wrote: A formal, legal foundation. The ASF is a recognized 501(c)3, non- TDF might not have 501(c)(3) status, but then consider that it is incorporated in Germany, not the United States. That 501(c)(3) status aside, is TDF actually a legally established foundation (yet)? I also think that 'independent' is also an adjective that belongs there... being independent is quite important to a number of FOSS ecosystem people... While that is clearly a true statement, you seem to be implying that you don't think TDF is independent. Please can you explain what you mean? People may just be curious about TDF being backed byFreies Office Deutschland e.V. as well as an associated project in Software in the Public Interest (SPI). What does being backed by them mean? How independent is it from these 2 entitied? Just questions like that. Certainly being an independent, legally established foundation is critical, isn't it, as compare to one which is just a legally established one? But is it even just a legally established foundation? AFAIK, TDF unto this day does not exist as a legal entity. At the moment the legal entity is Freies Office Deutschland e.V. (e.V. = eingetragener Verein = incorporated society / registered association). TDF is part of it. The by-laws of FrODeV explicitely cater for such situations. So please stop spreading such nonsense that TDF is not legally cabable of acting. -- Manfred Usselmann usselman...@icg-online.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 23:44:15 +0100 Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: [...] Detail: There is already a non-profit in existence; it's name is Freies Office Deutschland e.V. (eV is a German suffix a bit like Ltd or Inc), e.V. = registered association -- Manfred Usselmann usselman...@icg-online.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums - A Different Question
On Mon, 02 May 2011 19:49:53 -0700 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On 04/30/2011 01:56 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: Has Oracle given permission for TDF to use its forum, or doesn't TDF need such permission? Does TDF *want* to use an Oracle resource? I think Drew has already explained this on multiple mailing lists, anyway: the forums at http://user.services.openoffice.org/ are run by community members and not by Oracle, they explicitly include LibreOffice among the supported software (see page header), they can be used with no need for permissions from Oracle, and they are probably the best place where LibreOffice users can get support if they don't like mailing lists. Regards, Andrea. Sorry, but I'd have to disagree... http://openoffice.org/terms_of_use The resources are owned and operated by Oracle. It's no contraction that the resource is made available by Oracle and the forum is run by community members as stated by Drew. Didn't Oracle anyhow recently announce that OpenOffice.org will become a pure community project? Whilst http://user.services.openoffice.org may (currently) tolerate LO posts, No, they don't just tolerate it, they explicitly support LibrOffice posts: User community support forum for OpenOffice.org, StarOffice, NeoOffice and LibreOffice -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Survey: Usage of LibreOffice components
On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 19:09:33 +0100 Sebastian G. bastik bastik.public.mailingl...@gmx.de wrote: I'd like to know which components are most used and maybe why others are not. If you used OpenOffice before you can include your usage data as well. Do you use the quick starter? This is more or less private. There's no goal (other than to satisfy my curiosity) of this survey, but someone might use it for it's own purposes. e.g. discussing about changing installer defaults, creating a light installer... and so on. Writer = 25% Calc= 45% Impress = 15% Draw= 0% Base= 15% Math= 0% I don't know if I use the quick starter. ;-) Just keep the default setting after installation (Windows download and Ubuntu via package manager). Writer: Mostly to write letters Calc:Listings, calculations, timesheets etc. Impress: Creating and watching presentations from others Draw:Not much need for drawing Base:Several databases with linked table to keep track of things and create reports Math:No need for it Regards, Manfred -- Manfred Usselmann usselman...@icg-online.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Multilingualism and discussions
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 20:58:07 -0400 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2010-10-19 20:53, Drew Jensen a écrit : On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 09:37 +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: Howdy Jean-Christophe, On 20 oct. 10, at 04:02, Marc Paré wrote: Hmmm... then, the fact remains that a multilingual mailist model will always be difficult to accomplish. The amount of energy spent on translating from one language to another would certainly affect the overall effectiveness of the group. Satisfying everyone will be difficult. Ce genre de liste existe. Mais ce n'est absolument pas le propos. You mean this list then? Perhaps, because actually it does not have a language designator. Le propos c'est d'identifier les listes qui demandent l'anglais comme langue de travail comme telles. Et de laisser la porte ouverte aux autres langues pour les listes qui ne sont pas identifiées linguistiquement. Ah - well from the stand point of accepting any post, sure - but in reality I doubt it would work too well if one spoke in Francais, one in Chinese and another in Polish - but it would be interesting.. I have heard some stories form folks trying that in groups distributed between so many places, as ours is. If I recall correctly those experiences where not a great success. Je ne vois pas ce qui est difficile à mettre en place. Es por eso que yo digo que no pieso que podria hacerlo sin muchos problemas. No pienos que los otros los gustaran trabajar como eso. Keine Ahnung, was das heisst? Ich denke, die Mischung verschiedener Sprachen in einem Diskussionsstrang macht überhaupt keinen Sinn und führt letztendlich nur zu Verwirrung und Chaos. Englisch sollte die Hauptsprache auf der Liste bleiben, weil es einfach am praktikabelsten ist. Anderssprachige Beiträge, falls ausnahmsweise notwendig, sollten übersetzt und die Diskussion auf der entsprechenden Sprachliste fortgesetzt werden. Gibt es die nicht, sollte sie entweder angelegt werden, wenn häufiger Beiträge in der Sprache zu erwarten sind, oder ausnahmsweise der ganze Diskussionsfaden in der Sprache gehalten werden und die Sprache im Betreff genannt werden, so dass man weiss, dass man den Thread komplett überlesen kann, wenn man diese Sprache nicht beherscht. Beste Grüße, Manfred -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
