Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Name Change for LibreOffice Applications
+1 for Spreadsheed / Presentation / Drawing / Formula. On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Samuel Mehrbrodt s.mehrbr...@googlemail.com wrote: Spreadsheet is ok for me as long as it gets translated. Because here in Germany almost nobody would know what Spreadsheet means. Where did I use adjectives? I think Drawing is also a noun, but maybe you have a better idea. 2010/12/20 Michael Wheatland mich...@wheatland.com.au: On 20/12/2010 7:03 PM, Samuel Mehrbrodt s.mehrbr...@googlemail.com wrote: I think it's good to change the names of the Applications so that they describe what each application does. LibreOffice is the brand which will be known and names of the applications should help to find the application you want to use. I would also suggest to translate the names of the applications like Google Docs does. So we could have: Text Table Presentation Drawing Formula I like the idea but you have used a mix of nouns and adjectives. I also think that calc does far more than 'tables', spreadsheet would be more descriptive if you wanted to use nouns. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.orgdiscuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.orgdiscuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: On the Future of TDF
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.orgwrote: On Tuesday 16 Nov 2010 21:29:45 timofonic timofonic wrote: That's interesting to know about OASIS, thanks for the explanation. What about sharing the document file format support between FOSS related programs? It's the other part of the idea that not got answered :) Please don't top post. Good heavens, have you been hiding under a rock for the last couple of years, ;) that is the whole point of OASIS and ODF and ISO26300, It is already supported by multiple FOSS applications and MSOffice as well, though not well, yet. The ISO format wars was long and bloody but we won. mostly, however the evolution continues. cheers GL I think that the problem is not with the OASIS/ODF. FOSS applications have to support MS specific formats also. In many cases most of the documents these editors are used to deal with are in MS format. Even OO/LibO support for these formats is not perfect, not to talk about other FOSS office suites. So the idea of one shared library for MS specific format support is definitely worth consideration. Regards, Povilas On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2010-11-15 17:07, timofonic timofonic a écrit : I propose another idea: What about convert the file support of LibO into a portable, resource efficient, well designed and multiplatform library for all FOSS projects? I would imagine it like the WebKit of document file formats, but governed in a less corporate way. This library would have it´s own site into backed or being a TDF subdomain (or both), and improved between all friend projects. Of course this idea would need lot's of PR, negotiate with different projects and probably even deep changes in the original source code. This could make not only more interoperability, but FOSS projects having a lot stronger file type support. It could be used easily for non-interactive document converters too. A strong official alliance about this and other interoperability stuff could be very good for the FOSS productivity suite. Hi Timofonic. But we already have this with the ODF and the Oasis Consortium of which some of our members sit on their committees. We should instead propose refinements to the ODF rather than add another layer of complexity. Creating another consortium takes a lot of time and negotiation between different groups, not to mention financial backing and legal representation. We already have many cooperating groups using the ODF and it sounds like the ODF has made great strides in being accepted in Europe, unlike N.America where it is still quite unknown. The LO marketing team hopes to make a difference in promoting the ODF formats as well as LO in the Americas as well as everywhere it is unknown. It is all in our interest to do so. Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.orgdiscuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.orgdiscuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] FreeDesktop Bugzilla
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Rainer Bielefeld rainerbielefeld_ooo...@bielefeldundbuss.de wrote: I cant see any necessity for an additional bug tracking system for normal users. If he has a problem, the user can post it in an user mailing list or in the forum, there he can get help. Hi, casual users don't do that. They only need to get their work done. Forums have the tendency to cost a lot of time, whereas many of non-power users do not understand mailing lists completely. If we want to get them involved in bug reporting, everything should be as easy as nextnextnext, plus the already mentioned things making users feel they're part of the community (like 'your bug was resolved', etc. notifications). Otherwise users wouldn't care, or, even worse, dump LibO. Povilas -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal
Hi all, On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Carlos Jose Lenarts Ramis goda...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/10/19 Gianluca Turconi m...@letturefantastiche.com In data 19 ottobre 2010 alle ore 14:35:45, Carlos Jose Lenarts Ramis el...@users.sourceforge.net ha scritto: If wee want a really customizable UI the best way is to go to something like Mocilla XULL adapted to LibO I know people who would kill because of XUL slowness in Moz UI. :) -- Gianluca Turconi -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.orgdiscuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.org discuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.orgdiscuss%252bh...@documentfoundation.orgfor instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted The slowness is not from XUL as user interface is that all the application is written in XUL+JavaScript. -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.orgdiscuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.orgfor instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Isn't it better to use a native toolkit and to load the theme on runtime? Of course, some customization capabilities would be lost, but we won't be adding rather large dependence of XULRunner (which is, at least on my system, as large as entire widget toolkit). Povilas -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] I like the name LibreOffice
IMHO 'Liberty Office' and 'Office Freedom' associates with liberation and similar things too much. A lot of people won't like that name. I think LibreOffice is just fine. The only problem is with pronunciation. Regards, Povilas On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Eric Jon Renaud eren...@collab.net wrote: I would suggest that LibreOffice would work fine for International English. I guarantee that more people who don't already understand both and 'gratis' will understand (or not) 'Libre' just as well as 'gratis'. Perhaps 'Liberty Office' or 'Office Freedom'. (I make no claim to these names and don't know if they're previously copyrighted, copylefted or under any sort of license) Regards, Eric On Oct 13, 2010, at 3:24 AM, Paul A Norman paul.a.nor...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Stefan, I'm not hooked on any partiacular name just two main principlpes. 1) That the International English name be easy on the tongue for English speakers and with that, that thought be given to language group names in the same way 2) The name mean something for the users (more than for the developers if necessary) Incorporating in the name principles of philosophy of development - - or project administration, will unfrotunately not be of apparent importance or help to potential general new users. Names that 'sell the product' or 'introduce the product' from a user's perspective would be very helpful in helping increase the uptake of the office suite amongst as yet unreached people. Paul On 13 October 2010 21:57, Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org wrote: Paul A Norman schrieb: Romance Languages: LibreOffice International English: FreeOffice Don´t use free! This would cause misunderstanding: FreeOffice -- free office -- gratis office The product is not (only / necessarily) free of charge (freeware). It´s free in sense of liberty. Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.orgdiscuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.orgdiscuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
