Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 23:26:03 -0400, Drew Jensen wrote: On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 10:16 +0200, Cedric Bosdonnat wrote: but we need some special care for the research world that has been completely left out by OOo these past years. Interesting, so would that mean more emphasis on Calc (charting) over Writer? maybe not, but research makes me thing of Calc.. guess that's why I stopped to ask - what would you be doing to the code, if you where looking to do some changes quickly _for the research ?world_ (academic world / corp research world / market-pols research ..all) heck no :-) Real stats are going to be done in a stats package anyway :-). But writing articles, the academics' daily bread and butter in increasingly done in a full-fledged office suite (unless you happen to be in physics, engineering, or maths). Most of my article submissions to professionally managed journals are required in .doc format. Yes, really! But better citation management would be a boon. Mostly trying to help zotero to get its stuff done in OO, I guess. Support for collaboration would be a boon (something like abicollab.net), or something like ooosvn which supports revision systems for collaboration. And .doc .docs interoperability would be a boon. Just three tiny things this academic would love to see improved :). Sebastian -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?
On 10/25/2010 11:19 AM, Sebastian Spaeth wrote: Real stats are going to be done in a stats package anyway :-). IOW, the current macro for R needs to be rewritten as a true R extension. jonathon -- No human will see non-list, non-bulk, non-junk email sent to this address. It all gets forwarded to /dev/null -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?
Le 2010-10-25 07:19, Sebastian Spaeth a écrit : On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 23:26:03 -0400, Drew Jensen wrote: On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 10:16 +0200, Cedric Bosdonnat wrote: but we need some special care for the research world that has been completely left out by OOo these past years. Interesting, so would that mean more emphasis on Calc (charting) over Writer? maybe not, but research makes me thing of Calc.. guess that's why I stopped to ask - what would you be doing to the code, if you where looking to do some changes quickly _for the research ?world_ (academic world / corp research world / market-pols research ..all) heck no :-) Real stats are going to be done in a stats package anyway :-). But writing articles, the academics' daily bread and butter in increasingly done in a full-fledged office suite (unless you happen to be in physics, engineering, or maths). Most of my article submissions to professionally managed journals are required in .doc format. Yes, really! But better citation management would be a boon. Mostly trying to help zotero to get its stuff done in OO, I guess. Support for collaboration would be a boon (something like abicollab.net), or something like ooosvn which supports revision systems for collaboration. And .doc .docs interoperability would be a boon. Just three tiny things this academic would love to see improved :). Sebastian Hi Sebastien. Are you registered on the marketing mailist. If not, it would be great if you could join. I started a thread on he marketing mailist called LibO in Academia and I am collecting comments and improvement suggestions there. It would also be great if you could leave your comments on that thread. Marc -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?
Le 2010-10-18 04:16, Cedric Bosdonnat a écrit : Hi Alexandro, On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 23:10 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: I am very positive about making improvements on things like Writer, however I don't know many people use the bibliographic features. On the opposite I know about many things that many users used, that could be fixed straight away and improve the usability on many users. ... IMHO there could be small wins here that would help a lot of people to join us (or at least use LibreOffice when they weren't using OOo). Things like being able to change the orientation of an OOo page, without needing to do so many clicks and changing styles and so forth. Sure, We need some nice UI ideas here. The coding shouldn't be too complex as we already have the page styles. ... One way to do it easily would be through a macro command that would insert two page breaks with style change and rotate the page in between. Other features needed in Writer: - Less predefined styles. Ideally, I would prefer to have all functions such as heading level, numbering... , but without the actual style sheets defined. InDesign is fairly good in that regard. At the very least, the numerous Bullets and Number styles (ex.: Bullet 1, bullet 1 beginning, bullet 1 end, bullet 1 next...) This is especially so considering that there also are a separate set of styles for bullets. - Perfect image and spreadsheet insertion in Writer. Right now, it's impossible to do it perfectly when things are transferred in a vectorial format. Amongst other problems, if one inserts a drawing and shrinks it at 50%, fonts are not shrinked (Windows XP and Windows 7). - Insert File should work with standard and Office formats. I.e. one should be able to insert an odt drawing or an ods spreadsheet. In Calc, my wish list includes: - Some way to make equation-writing easier when, for example, complex fractions and trigonometry are involved. Ideally, integrating Math-style equation writing into Calc would help with those crazy equations that I have in engineering. In Impress - A series of default effects that would be easy to pre-configure - A timeline of effects that would be similar to the advanced chronology of MsOffice 2003, but even better. Quite frankly, I find effects even harder to do than in MsOffice 2003. Having a group of lines appearing successively by appearing from the left (normal reading direction) should not require three steps as in MsOffice or 5 steps as in OpenOffice. LONG TERM WISH LIST Finally, a long term wish list would be complete integration of most modules at the document level. In other words, if I make a long report, I would: - Create a text document in a way similar to what is done with Writer. - When I come to tables, I would create a table as I currently do and I will be able to use all character, paragraph and style functions that are in Writer. But I would also be able to use all Calc functions (equations, formatting, etc.), sort either by line or column... exactly as if I had created a Calc sheet. - Similar behaviour for graphics. There is no need for the very limited graphic abilities of Writer (or Calc) because we would define a graphic zone and in that zone, all Draw functions would work as if I had created a drawing in Draw. - All these parts would be saved in the same Writer document because after all, they are all part of the same report; yet, I would still be able to fully edit all parts of the document from within the same file. Similar behaviour would be expected from other modules. For example, if I do a major spreadsheet , I should be able to use the word processor in a cell or in a group of cells. Likewise, Impress would often benefit from paragraph styles as defined in Writer and full-fledge spreadsheets. -- Michel Gagnon Montréal (Québec, Canada) -- http://mgagnon.net -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?
Hi Alexandro, On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 23:10 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: I am very positive about making improvements on things like Writer, however I don't know many people use the bibliographic features. On the opposite I know about many things that many users used, that could be fixed straight away and improve the usability on many users. Sure, we would need to improve common problems, but I'm sure that the bibliographic improvements could help students and researchers to use LibreOffice for their work... which is currently quite hard. One of the points I see there: + Use Zotero for the actual bibliographic work as it seems to be the most advanced tool and already has some LO integration. + Tweak Writer to map Zotero fields to other bibliographic tools fields (mostly EndNote as it seems to be widely used) + Tweak Writer to roundtrip unknown bibliographic fields (already contributed last week). + Remove that old Bibliographic stuff that nobody uses. IMHO there could be small wins here that would help a lot of people to join us (or at least use LibreOffice when they weren't using OOo). Things like being able to change the orientation of an OOo page, without needing to do so many clicks and changing styles and so forth. Sure, We need some nice UI ideas here. The coding shouldn't be too complex as we already have the page styles. Easily implementing the numbering of pages without also a lot of clicking. Same here. Image orientation should also be simpler, with a better way to get it the way the users want to. This one will be much more tricky as we would need to improve the Writer text layout... which could turn to be a nightmare. Think of all those strange layout cases that would bring ;) So I guess my point is let's improve on the users most used features, and go from there to build a better experience for the user. All those are needed, but we need some special care for the research world that has been completely left out by OOo these past years. Regards, -- Cédric Bosdonnat LibreOffice hacker http://documentfoundation.org OOo Eclipse Integration developer http://cedric.bosdonnat.free.fr -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?
Le 2010-10-18 04:16, Cedric Bosdonnat a écrit : Hi Alexandro, On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 23:10 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: I am very positive about making improvements on things like Writer, however I don't know many people use the bibliographic features. On the opposite I know about many things that many users used, that could be fixed straight away and improve the usability on many users. Sure, we would need to improve common problems, but I'm sure that the bibliographic improvements could help students and researchers to use LibreOffice for their work... which is currently quite hard. One of the points I see there: + Use Zotero for the actual bibliographic work as it seems to be the most advanced tool and already has some LO integration. + Tweak Writer to map Zotero fields to other bibliographic tools fields (mostly EndNote as it seems to be widely used) + Tweak Writer to roundtrip unknown bibliographic fields (already contributed last week). + Remove that old Bibliographic stuff that nobody uses. IMHO there could be small wins here that would help a lot of people to join us (or at least use LibreOffice when they weren't using OOo). Things like being able to change the orientation of an OOo page, without needing to do so many clicks and changing styles and so forth. Sure, We need some nice UI ideas here. The coding shouldn't be too complex as we already have the page styles. Easily implementing the numbering of pages without also a lot of clicking. Same here. Image orientation should also be simpler, with a better way to get it the way the users want to. This one will be much more tricky as we would need to improve the Writer text layout... which could turn to be a nightmare. Think of all those strange layout cases that would bring ;) So I guess my point is let's improve on the users most used features, and go from there to build a better experience for the user. All those are needed, but we need some special care for the research world that has been completely left out by OOo these past years. Regards, Thanks everyone for your remarks. I am gathering these points on the marketing list under two different threads: -- [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Academia -- [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Education (JK-High School and NOT post grad.university/college)post grad.university/college) The intent is to gather user thoughts about usage in these two arenas. If we are to target these two groups, LibO could perhaps tweak the plugins or even the LibO core itself to suit these users. I am interested in the process of marketing and improving the LibO suite for the two categories. Feel free to contribute to these two discussions on the marketing mailist. I would be interested in having your comments there. Marc # market...@libreoffice.org: Mailing list for marketing and promoting LibreOffice Subscription: marketing+subscr...@libreoffice.org Digest subscription: marketing+subscribe-dig...@libreoffice.org Archives: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ Mail-Archive.com: http://www.mail-archive.com/market...@libreoffice.org/ GMANE: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.marketing -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?
Le 2010-10-16 22:35, Jon Hamkins a écrit : On 10/16/2010 12:33 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-16 15:29, j.martin.pedersen a écrit : I will subscribe and attempt to find time to contribute. -martin Thanks, you are exactly the academic type of person I would be interested in having opinions in the marketing section. We need to hear more about academic use of LibO, advantages and drawbacks. Note that Martin was referring to humanities and social science academics. My experience in engineering and science is slightly different. There is significant usage of LaTeX at many engineering universities (I hadn't heard of anyone at my university attempting a technical thesis using something else), and LaTeX uses BibTeX to organize references. There are various open source bibliography reference managers for BibTeX -- I've heard good things about Jab Ref. I believe EndNote can export to BibTeX format, but I don't know about the other direction. Most people I knew simply managed a BibTeX database directly. I think LibO could gain significant traction with the university crowd if there were any kind of robust interaction with either LaTeX or BibTeX. I know there is the OOoLaTeX extension, but its capabilities are quite limited compared to using LaTeX directly. The advantage of LibO is that it is much easier to learn and produce something without a lot of training. Jon Thanks Jon. Would you be interested in continuing this conversation on the marketing list? I have started a discussion thread LibO in Academia where we can discuss the missing tools for the LibO suite and how to market the suite to the Academia group as a viable and solid suite. Marc -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?
Le 2010-10-16 23:53, Andy Brown a écrit : On Sat Oct 16 2010 20:35:41 GMT-0700 (PDT) Marc Paré wrote: Thanks for the note. Yes, it does sound that different tools are needed depending on the field of study. There should almost be a mailist dedicated to LibO use for academia where we could collect the data needed to make LibO a great tool for academia. IMHO, LibO satisfies quie well in the educational arena, however it does fail somewhat for the needs of academia. Yes, I have found that in many instances complaints of failings in providing solid bibliographic support from professors who had tried OOo. I think from a marketing point of view, these are areas where we should perhaps try to improve and involve devs who would be interested in these areas. Not sure what to do about this information. Should this be information be collected in the Marketing list? Suggestions anyone? Why not add a section on the wiki, maybe under the marketing section for ideas and suggestions? Just a though. Andy That sounds like a plan. In the meantime I have started 2 threads on the marketing discussion list: LibO in Academia LibO in Education (JK-High School and NOT post grad.university/college) I am interested on how to market the LibO suite in education and taking inventory of the missing tools required to make it a good solid option for its use in the educational field. I am a teacher and I actively promote the OOo/LibO Suite both at the student level (this is working quite well -- approx. 100 of my students are now using OOo at the primary level in a school of approx. 350 students) as well as at the educational IT/corporate level (this is NOT working well as MSOffice has a strong foothold and IT is still refusing to recognize the .odt as a viable document format ... as well as any other OASIS format.) I am hoping that a greater use of the .odt format by students will eventually force IT to adopt its format in some way. Marc -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?
Le 2010-10-16 12:18, j.martin.pedersen a écrit : Hi, LibreOffice is an exciting development! As a Free Software user and advocate who spends time in academia this is a crucial aspect of getting anyone to use LO: As Writer developer I would be really interested in improving that... though I have no idea of the requirements behing bibliographic works. Would you be able to get some people helping to describe what needs to be done? If you can find some other developers interested in hacking that part, I'm ready to help them getting started! Whenever you suggest OOo or now LO to academics and students, they ask: What about my Endnotes? Until there is an integrated GUI that somewhat looks and feels like - and of course is 100% compatible with - Endnotes, social science and humanities academics will never migrate. They are locked in. With a great bibliographic component in LO, they could be unlocked. Looking forward to seeing what will happen, -martin Hi Martin: We will be looking for some input just like this in the marketing section. Would you be interested in joining the marketing mailist and joining in on the conversations there? Personally, I am very interested in marketing LibO to the academia group. At what level in Academia are you involved? You can join and develop this thread on the marketing discussion list if you wish. Marc -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?
Le 2010-10-16 15:29, j.martin.pedersen a écrit : I will subscribe and attempt to find time to contribute. -martin Thanks, you are exactly the academic type of person I would be interested in having opinions in the marketing section. We need to hear more about academic use of LibO, advantages and drawbacks. Marc -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:18 PM, j.martin.pedersen m.peder...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: Hi, LibreOffice is an exciting development! As a Free Software user and advocate who spends time in academia this is a crucial aspect of getting anyone to use LO: As Writer developer I would be really interested in improving that... though I have no idea of the requirements behing bibliographic works. Would you be able to get some people helping to describe what needs to be done? If you can find some other developers interested in hacking that part, I'm ready to help them getting started! Whenever you suggest OOo or now LO to academics and students, they ask: What about my Endnotes? Until there is an integrated GUI that somewhat looks and feels like - and of course is 100% compatible with - Endnotes, social science and humanities academics will never migrate. They are locked in. With a great bibliographic component in LO, they could be unlocked. Looking forward to seeing what will happen, Just to add here that a new program for handling bibliographies is Mendeley, http://www.mendeley.com/ which has packages for both 32-bit and 64-bit of Linux. It can communicate with OOo, though I did not try this. Simos -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?
On 10/16/2010 12:33 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-16 15:29, j.martin.pedersen a écrit : I will subscribe and attempt to find time to contribute. -martin Thanks, you are exactly the academic type of person I would be interested in having opinions in the marketing section. We need to hear more about academic use of LibO, advantages and drawbacks. Note that Martin was referring to humanities and social science academics. My experience in engineering and science is slightly different. There is significant usage of LaTeX at many engineering universities (I hadn't heard of anyone at my university attempting a technical thesis using something else), and LaTeX uses BibTeX to organize references. There are various open source bibliography reference managers for BibTeX -- I've heard good things about Jab Ref. I believe EndNote can export to BibTeX format, but I don't know about the other direction. Most people I knew simply managed a BibTeX database directly. I think LibO could gain significant traction with the university crowd if there were any kind of robust interaction with either LaTeX or BibTeX. I know there is the OOoLaTeX extension, but its capabilities are quite limited compared to using LaTeX directly. The advantage of LibO is that it is much easier to learn and produce something without a lot of training. Jon -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?
On Sat Oct 16 2010 20:35:41 GMT-0700 (PDT) Marc Paré wrote: Thanks for the note. Yes, it does sound that different tools are needed depending on the field of study. There should almost be a mailist dedicated to LibO use for academia where we could collect the data needed to make LibO a great tool for academia. IMHO, LibO satisfies quie well in the educational arena, however it does fail somewhat for the needs of academia. Yes, I have found that in many instances complaints of failings in providing solid bibliographic support from professors who had tried OOo. I think from a marketing point of view, these are areas where we should perhaps try to improve and involve devs who would be interested in these areas. Not sure what to do about this information. Should this be information be collected in the Marketing list? Suggestions anyone? Why not add a section on the wiki, maybe under the marketing section for ideas and suggestions? Just a though. Andy -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?
Hello Jacques, On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 22:57 +0200, Mounier Jacques wrote: I want to congratulate you for the courage you have shown in creating this new project. Thanks for your encouragements: it's always appreciated ;) It is possible to have some rumors about LibO roadmap? What are the criteria for development? Issue Tracker (Number of votes and/ or Age)? Comparison with the competitors (MsOffice)? At the discretion of Developer s? etc I'm not sure there is a roadmap yet. We currently are merging patches coming from different contributors: further developments aren't targetted yet ;) Just a personal opinion, I'd like to see improvements in LOWriter... http://bibliographic.openoffice.org/ http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/71959/Alphabetic al_Index.pdf Many people (students, scholars, technical writers, etc) want a word proce ssor, but with much greater indexing and authoring tools (You could involve Univ ersities as partners?). As Writer developer I would be really interested in improving that... though I have no idea of the requirements behing bibliographic works. Would you be able to get some people helping to describe what needs to be done? If you can find some other developers interested in hacking that part, I'm ready to help them getting started! Regards, -- Cédric Bosdonnat LibreOffice hacker http://documentfoundation.org OOo Eclipse Integration developer http://cedric.bosdonnat.free.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?
Many people (students, scholars, technical writers, etc) want a word proce ssor, but with much greater indexing and authoring tools (You could involve Univ ersities as partners?). Would that perhaps be reinventing the wheel a little - perhaps some would find LaTeX and associated utlities useful? Tremendous support already in many universtity and other communities. LiBOwould like OOO export to LaTeX (?) and then LaTeX's author tools, which are top rate and provide extensive capablilities, can produce industry standard .pdf or .ps http://theoval.cmp.uea.ac.uk/~nlct/latex/ http://code.google.com/p/texworks/ http://www.latex-project.org/ http://miktex.org/ Paul Paul On 11 October 2010 20:31, Cedric Bosdonnat cedric.bosdonnat@free.fr wrote: Hello Jacques, On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 22:57 +0200, Mounier Jacques wrote: I want to congratulate you for the courage you have shown in creating this new project. Thanks for your encouragements: it's always appreciated ;) It is possible to have some rumors about LibO roadmap? What are the criteria for development? Issue Tracker (Number of votes and/ or Age)? Comparison with the competitors (MsOffice)? At the discretion of Developer s? etc I'm not sure there is a roadmap yet. We currently are merging patches coming from different contributors: further developments aren't targetted yet ;) Just a personal opinion, I'd like to see improvements in LOWriter... http://bibliographic.openoffice.org/ http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/71959/Alphabetic al_Index.pdf Many people (students, scholars, technical writers, etc) want a word proce ssor, but with much greater indexing and authoring tools (You could involve Univ ersities as partners?). As Writer developer I would be really interested in improving that... though I have no idea of the requirements behing bibliographic works. Would you be able to get some people helping to describe what needs to be done? If you can find some other developers interested in hacking that part, I'm ready to help them getting started! Regards, -- Cédric Bosdonnat LibreOffice hacker http://documentfoundation.org OOo Eclipse Integration developer http://cedric.bosdonnat.free.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?
P.S. I should have mentioned from a WYSIWYG perspective LYX http://www.lyx.org/ Paul On 11 October 2010 23:43, Paul A Norman paul.a.nor...@gmail.com wrote: Many people (students, scholars, technical writers, etc) want a word proce ssor, but with much greater indexing and authoring tools (You could involve Univ ersities as partners?). Would that perhaps be reinventing the wheel a little - perhaps some would find LaTeX and associated utlities useful? Tremendous support already in many universtity and other communities. LiBOwould like OOO export to LaTeX (?) and then LaTeX's author tools, which are top rate and provide extensive capablilities, can produce industry standard .pdf or .ps http://theoval.cmp.uea.ac.uk/~nlct/latex/ http://code.google.com/p/texworks/ http://www.latex-project.org/ http://miktex.org/ Paul Paul On 11 October 2010 20:31, Cedric Bosdonnat cedric.bosdonnat@free.fr wrote: Hello Jacques, On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 22:57 +0200, Mounier Jacques wrote: I want to congratulate you for the courage you have shown in creating this new project. Thanks for your encouragements: it's always appreciated ;) It is possible to have some rumors about LibO roadmap? What are the criteria for development? Issue Tracker (Number of votes and/ or Age)? Comparison with the competitors (MsOffice)? At the discretion of Developer s? etc I'm not sure there is a roadmap yet. We currently are merging patches coming from different contributors: further developments aren't targetted yet ;) Just a personal opinion, I'd like to see improvements in LOWriter... http://bibliographic.openoffice.org/ http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/71959/Alphabetic al_Index.pdf Many people (students, scholars, technical writers, etc) want a word proce ssor, but with much greater indexing and authoring tools (You could involve Univ ersities as partners?). As Writer developer I would be really interested in improving that... though I have no idea of the requirements behing bibliographic works. Would you be able to get some people helping to describe what needs to be done? If you can find some other developers interested in hacking that part, I'm ready to help them getting started! Regards, -- Cédric Bosdonnat LibreOffice hacker http://documentfoundation.org OOo Eclipse Integration developer http://cedric.bosdonnat.free.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
[tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?
Hello everyone on this list, I want to congratulate you for the courage you have shown in creating this new project. It is possible to have some rumors about LibO roadmap? What are the criteria for development? Issue Tracker (Number of votes and/ or Age)? Comparison with the competitors (MsOffice)? At the discretion of Developer s? etc Just a personal opinion, I'd like to see improvements in LOWriter... http://bibliographic.openoffice.org/ http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/71959/Alphabetic al_Index.pdf Many people (students, scholars, technical writers, etc) want a word proce ssor, but with much greater indexing and authoring tools (You could involve Univ ersities as partners?). I very much hope in this new community... possibly the time has come that old dreams to come true... I think that SUN and Oracle have underestimated these problems or maybe -m ost probably- they were not in their priorities. Many thanks and kind regards. Jacques -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
