Re: [tdf-discuss] Associations around TDF

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Jomar,

Sorry for the delay,

On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Jomar Silva  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I see an additional type of organization that could be considered her: 
> Liaisons.
>
> This type of association is something common inside standardization 
> organizations that have some area of common interest and where the work of 
> one organization can impact on the projects developed by the other ones (e.g. 
> OASIS and W3C and JTC1 SC 34).
>
> I volunteer to write more about that later, if you believe that this is 
> something useful for us.

Yes, thanks, I'm interested in reading you on this, that could be
really useful to have something documented on this type of
association.

Kind regards
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Associations around TDF

[Ian Lynch]

On 2 November 2011 21:25, Jean-Baptiste Faure  wrote:
> Le 02/11/2011 09:50, Andre Schnabel a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>>> Datum: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:36:01 -0200
>>> Von: Olivier Hallot 
>>> An: discuss@documentfoundation.org
>>> Betreff: Re: [tdf-discuss] Associations around TDF
>>
>>> Hello André
>>>
>>> Yes, please open a page.
>>> consider ALTA from Brazil as interested NGO.
>>
>> Ok, wiki page started at
>>
>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Partnering_with_NGOs
>>
>>
>> For now I put some information about FroDev on the list of NGOs. Can
>> you please add information about ALTA (and Sophie about La Mouette)?
>>
>> If anyone here knows about other entities, you are welcome to enhance the 
>> list.
>
> Data for La Mouette have been added.
>
> Best regards.
> JBF

I added The Learning Machine

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Associations around TDF

[Jean-Baptiste Faure]

Le 02/11/2011 09:50, Andre Schnabel a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
>> Datum: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:36:01 -0200
>> Von: Olivier Hallot 
>> An: discuss@documentfoundation.org
>> Betreff: Re: [tdf-discuss] Associations around TDF
> 
>> Hello André
>>
>> Yes, please open a page.
>> consider ALTA from Brazil as interested NGO.
> 
> Ok, wiki page started at
> 
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Partnering_with_NGOs
> 
> 
> For now I put some information about FroDev on the list of NGOs. Can 
> you please add information about ALTA (and Sophie about La Mouette)?
> 
> If anyone here knows about other entities, you are welcome to enhance the 
> list.

Data for La Mouette have been added.

Best regards.
JBF

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Associations around TDF

[Olivier Hallot]

Hello André

Em 02-11-2011 06:50, Andre Schnabel escreveu:


Ok, wiki page started at

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Partnering_with_NGOs


For now I put some information about FroDev on the list of NGOs. Can
you please add information about ALTA (and Sophie about La Mouette)?


Data on ALTA being filled. Thanks

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Associations around TDF

[Andre Schnabel]

Hi,

> Datum: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:36:01 -0200
> Von: Olivier Hallot 
> An: discuss@documentfoundation.org
> Betreff: Re: [tdf-discuss] Associations around TDF

> Hello André
> 
> Yes, please open a page.
> consider ALTA from Brazil as interested NGO.

Ok, wiki page started at

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Partnering_with_NGOs


For now I put some information about FroDev on the list of NGOs. Can 
you please add information about ALTA (and Sophie about La Mouette)?

If anyone here knows about other entities, you are welcome to enhance the list.


regards,

André

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Res: [tdf-discuss] Associations around TDF

[Jomar Silva]

Hi,

I see an additional type of organization that could be considered her: Liaisons.

This type of association is something common inside standardization 
organizations that have some area of common interest and where the work of one 
organization can impact on the projects developed by the other ones (e.g. OASIS 
and W3C and JTC1 SC 34).

I volunteer to write more about that later, if you believe that this is 
something useful for us.

Best,

Jomar
-Original Message-
From: Sophie Gautier 
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:50:36 
To: 
Reply-To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
Subject: [tdf-discuss] Associations around TDF

Hi all,

Following a meeting in Paris concerning the associations around The
Document Foundation and/or LibreOffice, I would like to work on a
draft examining the different ways the associations will interact.

We have determined three types of association currently existing :

1) Rare and particular case dedicated to a development or a one-time
activity, it has no representation role before TDF or LibreOffice but
interacts and serves the Foundation purpose.
Example: The Document Machinery which is a NGO under the French
law 1901 dedicated to a particular development.

2) Enterprise or business association (and we are clearly speaking of
associations) which is a more common type than the 1st one. On a case
by case meaning, specific representation could be granted concerning
TDF. In the same way, particular relationship could be defined with
The Document Foundation. There is so many types and so many different
laws that can be taken into account here that it would be very
difficult imho to draw a common set of rules for this type of
relationship, we could however define a checklist or a template that
would help to write the rules. But clearly, the background laying idea
is if the TDF name is involved for raising money, there should be some
fair way for the Foundation to benefit from it.

3) The classical NGOs supporting local communities and activities.
They have no direct representation of TDF (except for FroDev for
historical reason at the moment, but that will be different once the
Foundation is official). Most of the time they need an official
recognition or an endorsement of their activities by TDF. They need
also clear guidelines of what they are able to do and how they
interact with the Foundation or another particular case like 1 or 2
above, or also a particular product (LibreOffice for the moment, but
that can be LOOL, etc.).

Do you see other kind of associations existing or that could exist?
What do you see that could miss in the description of our interaction
with this 3 types of association?
Who would like to work with me on drawing the guidelines for the 3rd
type in a first time, then on the 2nd type.

Kind regards
Sophie
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Associations around TDF

[Olivier Hallot]

Hello André

Yes, please open a page.
consider ALTA from Brazil as interested NGO.

Thank you

Olivier

Em 27-10-2011 14:25, André Schnabel escreveu:

Hi Sophie,

Am 26.10.2011 16:50, schrieb Sophie Gautier:



Who would like to work with me on drawing the guidelines for the 3rd
type in a first time, then on the 2nd type.


I can help with type 3 .. but I'd be happy to see other people helping 
(you know, it gets quite boring when a founding member of TDF and 
FrODeV - two entities who currently have a very close relationship - 
tries to write some guidelines for exactly these relationship ;) )


what would also be very helpfull woult be a list of "interested NGOs" 
should I satrt a list at the wiki?



regards,

André



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Re: [tdf-discuss] Associations around TDF

[Charles-H. Schulz]

André,

I'll volunteer to create a wiki page and if non FroDeV members are less
boring I can help with the rest... ;-)

Best,

Charles.
Le 27 oct. 2011 18:29, "André Schnabel"  a écrit :

> Hi Sophie,
>
> Am 26.10.2011 16:50, schrieb Sophie Gautier:
>
>
>  Who would like to work with me on drawing the guidelines for the 3rd
>> type in a first time, then on the 2nd type.
>>
>
> I can help with type 3 .. but I'd be happy to see other people helping (you
> know, it gets quite boring when a founding member of TDF and FrODeV - two
> entities who currently have a very close relationship - tries to write some
> guidelines for exactly these relationship ;) )
>
> what would also be very helpfull woult be a list of "interested NGOs"
> should I satrt a list at the wiki?
>
>
> regards,
>
> André
>
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Associations around TDF

[André Schnabel]

Hi Sophie,

Am 26.10.2011 16:50, schrieb Sophie Gautier:



Who would like to work with me on drawing the guidelines for the 3rd
type in a first time, then on the 2nd type.


I can help with type 3 .. but I'd be happy to see other people helping 
(you know, it gets quite boring when a founding member of TDF and FrODeV 
- two entities who currently have a very close relationship - tries to 
write some guidelines for exactly these relationship ;) )


what would also be very helpfull woult be a list of "interested NGOs" 
should I satrt a list at the wiki?



regards,

André

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[tdf-discuss] Associations around TDF

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi all,

Following a meeting in Paris concerning the associations around The
Document Foundation and/or LibreOffice, I would like to work on a
draft examining the different ways the associations will interact.

We have determined three types of association currently existing :

1) Rare and particular case dedicated to a development or a one-time
activity, it has no representation role before TDF or LibreOffice but
interacts and serves the Foundation purpose.
Example: The Document Machinery which is a NGO under the French
law 1901 dedicated to a particular development.

2) Enterprise or business association (and we are clearly speaking of
associations) which is a more common type than the 1st one. On a case
by case meaning, specific representation could be granted concerning
TDF. In the same way, particular relationship could be defined with
The Document Foundation. There is so many types and so many different
laws that can be taken into account here that it would be very
difficult imho to draw a common set of rules for this type of
relationship, we could however define a checklist or a template that
would help to write the rules. But clearly, the background laying idea
is if the TDF name is involved for raising money, there should be some
fair way for the Foundation to benefit from it.

3) The classical NGOs supporting local communities and activities.
They have no direct representation of TDF (except for FroDev for
historical reason at the moment, but that will be different once the
Foundation is official). Most of the time they need an official
recognition or an endorsement of their activities by TDF. They need
also clear guidelines of what they are able to do and how they
interact with the Foundation or another particular case like 1 or 2
above, or also a particular product (LibreOffice for the moment, but
that can be LOOL, etc.).

Do you see other kind of associations existing or that could exist?
What do you see that could miss in the description of our interaction
with this 3 types of association?
Who would like to work with me on drawing the guidelines for the 3rd
type in a first time, then on the 2nd type.

Kind regards
Sophie
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