Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java dependency

2010-11-04 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-11-04 1:06 AM, JustFillBug wrote: Then start porting all the java extensions to python extensions before talking about removing java dependency. Even if the task half complete, some features can still be benefit by not loading the JVM. ?? I think you misunderstand... What is being

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java dependency

2010-11-03 Thread Thomas Krumbein
Hey, Am 03.11.2010 09:16, schrieb shundr...@gmail.com: +4 on making Java optional. Personally, I prefer Python for writing extensions to programs as it usually results in smaller code and less legal uncertainty. Do we / Can we have the option of making LibO extensions in Python? Yes, it is

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java dependency

2010-11-03 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 01:08:46 +0100, Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com wrote: And I fully agree - just dropping java just for the sake of it is a very, very bad idea. Right, but being able to build with --disable-java (which doesn't work at the moment) should be a worthwhile

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java dependency

2010-11-03 Thread Ian
On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 09:54 +0100, Sebastian Spaeth wrote: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 01:08:46 +0100, Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com wrote: And I fully agree - just dropping java just for the sake of it is a very, very bad idea. Right, but being able to build with

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java dependency

2010-11-03 Thread Michael Meeks
On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 09:27 +, Ian wrote: Maybe we should convert the whole thing to Java :-) Lol ;-) it seems the number of platforms with a compliant JVM is shrinking as we watch, making a bet on that technology in the current world seems crazy. At least then it would run on any

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java dependency

2010-11-03 Thread timofonic timofonic
+5 too. What about supporting more languages for extensions instead? Lua seems interesting, there are other languages that couldbe supported too. I think LibO should be completely functional with all the features without the use of heavy dependencies like JVM. Also I think LibO should

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java dependency

2010-11-03 Thread JustFillBug
On 2010-11-03, Thomas Krumbein thomas.krumb...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Am 03.11.2010 09:16, schrieb shundr...@gmail.com: +4 on making Java optional. Personally, I prefer Python for writing extensions to programs as it usually results in smaller code and less legal uncertainty. Do we /

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java dependency

2010-11-02 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-02 11:40, Miguel Angel Frías Bonfil a écrit : According to me, Libre Office is developed primary on C++ with GTK, just the extensions are on Java. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:36 AM, T. J. Brumfieldenderand...@gmail.comwrote: I'm an user, and not a developer. So perhaps this is a silly

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java dependency

2010-11-02 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-02 15:14, Frank Esposito a écrit : +1 for getting rid of java. +2 for getting rid of java. Me too. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive:

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java dependency

2010-11-02 Thread Mirek M.
2010/11/2 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com Le 2010-11-02 15:14, Frank Esposito a écrit : +1 for getting rid of java. +2 for getting rid of java. Me too. Me three. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.orgdiscuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.org Posting

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java dependency

2010-11-02 Thread Cedric Bosdonnat
On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 15:32 -0500, T. J. Brumfield wrote: Can we get a list of all the components that require Java that would need to be reimplemented? To start a list we could add: + XSL transformations (an easy hack to replace by libxsl) + Base HSQLDB backend + Base report builder

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java dependency

2010-11-02 Thread T. J. Brumfield
I think there is a difference between removing Java as a dependency needed for out-of-the-box features, and blocking people from extending the application with Java extensions. I think keeping the Java UNO bridge does make sense, but users shouldn't need to fire up a JVM for basic/common

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java dependency

2010-11-02 Thread jonathon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/03/2010 12:08 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: + Base HSQLDB backend That would mean: ship a different database with by default, SQLite could easily be added. would still need that backend otherwise you'd introduce a major