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From: NoOp [mailto:gl...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 1:42 AM
To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
Subject: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?
On 05/19/2011 11:03 AM, Andras Timar wrote
Hi Tor
Please no. We who have had to look at that codebase and even fix some
problems
in it are glad that it is abandoned. It is a huge unmaintainable pile of
XSLT,
and then some silly C# code around that.
(snip)
Furthermore, this allegedly Open Source project (hosted on soureforge)
On 05/19/2011 10:23 AM, plino wrote:
Hi Tor
Please no. We who have had to look at that codebase and even fix some
problems
in it are glad that it is abandoned. It is a huge unmaintainable pile of
XSLT,
and then some silly C# code around that.
(snip)
Furthermore, this allegedly
2011/5/19 plino pedl...@gmail.com:
Then I think it's time to create a proper C/C++ ODF importer for Word. If
this worked properly then this would be a further step in promoting ODF as a
de facto open format alternative.
ODF support is present in MS Office 2007 SP2 and MS Office 2010 (it
even
ODF support is present in MS Office 2007 SP2 and MS Office 2010 (it
even can be selected as default file format) so what would be your
target?
MS Office 2003 and older? It does not look reasonable to me,
because by the time we develop something useable, only a minority of
users will use
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 20:22, plino pedl...@gmail.com wrote:
ODF support is present in MS Office 2007 SP2 and MS Office 2010 (it
even can be selected as default file format) so what would be your
target?
MS Office 2003 and older? It does not look reasonable to me,
because by the time
On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 10:51 -0700, NoOp wrote:
Given that Oracle has tossed OOo back over the fence, I wonder if that
also includes the Sun ODF Plugin... the one they first offered for free,
and then changed to a purchase. If so, then that might be worth salvaging.
The free version of the Sun
On 05/19/2011 11:03 AM, Andras Timar wrote:
2011/5/19 plino pedl...@gmail.com:
Then I think it's time to create a proper C/C++ ODF importer for Word. If
this worked properly then this would be a further step in promoting ODF as a
de facto open format alternative.
ODF support is present in
There are *millions* of users that are still using WinXP and older
versions of MS Office (think schools, libraries, individuals, small
companies, government offices, etc). Granted the ideal situation would
be to have all of them install LO, but we know: 1) that just isn't going
to happen, 2)
- Original Message
From: Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com
On 5/17/11 4:17 PM, BRM wrote:
Personally I hope Oracle doesn't drop the ball on it and that OpenOffice
proper
can become a true community lead project as I haven't yet seen anything
from
the
leadership of TDF
BRM wrote:
In some cases, the community decision was aligned with the
members, but they stilled didn't take to the decision through the
community but through what they wanted so it the decision seemed
more forced on the community than decided by the community even in
those cases
Hi Ben,
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From: Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org
To: BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com
Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org
Sent: Wed, May 18, 2011 5:34:38 AM
Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?
BRM wrote:
In some cases, the community decision
Hi Ben,
This discussion is a bit, as we say in Dutch ouwe koeien uit de sloot
halen :-) (hmm, old stuff that maybe you shouldn't care about any longer)
I have seen moments too in the first months of TDF that did not feel so
good. However ...
BRM wrote (18-05-11 11:53):
While I was
Hi
Em 18-05-2011 07:05, Cor Nouws escreveu:
Hi Ben,
(snip)
.. in this community there is no single person or party pushing
decisions. All that participate have a saying. But of course, most in
areas where your participation is relevant. And sure, still some
processes are not perfect. But
Hi Kurti
And not IAccessible2 is the only useful application which future is
uncertain.
There are many other tools (migration wizard, document analyzer,
share-point connector, ODF modul for MSO) which were not open source
licensed but were mainly free to use and helped a lot integrating OO.o
May I just take the time to agree 100% that this old stuff is, or
should be, dead and buried so we can move on. Remember, we are not
alone in forking from Oracle this way - for instance the Drizzle
database (by ex-MSQL developers) is now rated best non-proprietary
database option and this month
Le 17/05/11 12:49, plino a écrit :
Hi plino,
What do they mean by handing it back? Are they giving up on the OpenOffice
brand?
Can someone from TDF shed some light?
Nobody seems to know, or if they do, they are keeping wraps on it. The
people still around on the openoffice.org lists are
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From: Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com
Le 17/05/11 12:49, plino a écrit :
What do they mean by handing it back? Are they giving up on the
OpenOffice
brand?
Can someone from TDF shed some light?
Nobody seems to know, or if they do, they are
On 5/17/11 4:17 PM, BRM wrote:
Personally I hope Oracle doesn't drop the ball on it and that OpenOffice proper
can become a true community lead project as I haven't yet seen anything from the
leadership of TDF to give me confidence they are not doing the same thing they
blamed Oracle for, just
@Italo, since you are indeed a member of the SC, can you share with the
community more information about the original topic, please?
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Keeping OO separate from LO is a good thing overall; more actors in
the open source office software sector gives healthy competition (like
Opera and Firefox for web browsers), innovation and shows m$ users the
benefits of using a non-proprietary document format.
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On 05/17/2011 05:17 PM, plino wrote:
@Italo, since you are indeed a member of the SC, can you share with the
community more information about the original topic, please?
Apart from reiterating that we see one community going forward, as we
always did (when we originally invited Oracle to
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