Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-24 Thread Mateusz Loskot
Fawcett, David wrote: I realize that there are likely not a large number of people who have the expertise and experience to write this kind of code. Is this a project that should be shopped around for funding? I'd say so. Google Summer of Code? IMHO, it definitely doesn't such

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-24 Thread Bob Basques
All, Ok, I'm probably going to get someone irritated, but here goes . . . Why not approach this from the other end of the spectrum and work at making the original files smaller. Work with the providers to make the images smaller in the first place, or at least come up with a maximum

[OSGeo-Discuss] Thank You For The Good Discussion

2009-08-24 Thread Landon Blake
Thank you for all the comments over the weekend on open source lurkers and proprietary file formats/algorithms. The feedback was very insightful and gave me a lot to think about. Landon Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-24 Thread René A. Enguehard
I agree, primarily because I just got a dataset from the city that was a 5Gb raster. I know hardrive space is cheap and so is processing power but still, it took literally hours to get anything meaningful out of it. Picking a more appropriate resolution, better compression and eventually

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and ProprietaryAlgorithms

2009-08-24 Thread Landon Blake
Bobb wrote: Here's my reasoning, we're never (ever?) going to hit the top end on how big files ever get, resolution just keeps going up and up, so there is always going to be some upper limit that will need to be breached somehow. Working out a proper method for segregating the data up front

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Thank You For The Good Discussion

2009-08-24 Thread Eric Wolf
+1 Thank you. I have colleagues who are constantly unsubscribing from mailing lists because they get tired of deleting messages. I tell them that I promisicuously subscribe because I can keep an finger on the pulse of a particular community just by seeing the subjects. And every once in a while a

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-24 Thread Bob Basques
Rene, how could we standardize for those future uses? I was thinking more along the lines of a standard file size more than anything. Nto all deliverable are even able to accomplish capturing a whole contract in a single file, so if even a separation into more than one file is needed, why

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and ProprietaryAlgorithms

2009-08-24 Thread Bob Basques
Landon, It would be interesting to come up with a standard structure on a computer file system that could be used to accessed tiled raster data, if this hasn’t been done already. One the file system structure was defined, it would be fairly easy to write open source software that accessed this

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats andProprietaryAlgorithms

2009-08-24 Thread Bob Basques
Landon, Just had another thought . . . What about setting up a (openSource) tool set specifically for handling Raster images for pre-processing purposes. Might even be something that publishers could re-distribute with their datasets, as in this processor stack works with our data. Just

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats andProprietaryAlgorithms

2009-08-24 Thread Bob Basques
Markus, What's the standard (OGC?) part of this, just the calling structure, and consequent responses? It looks like anything can be on the backenda s the processor, and the only enforcements are in the calling and results for the getcapabilities, maybe in the service(s) requests as well . .

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-24 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
It would not be a good SoC thing, due to the level of expertise and time required. I (LizardTech) would likely be willing to contribute to such an effort. -mpg -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Fawcett,

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-24 Thread Landon Blake
MPG: When you say effort do you mean some sort of library to support JP2 geo side of things? What programming language would you be most interested in? C++? Landon Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268 Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658 -Original Message- From:

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-24 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
I've not given it much thought recently, to be honest. I'd need to review the current state of things in OpenJp2 (or whatever it's called) to see where they are at, what changes would be realistic and viable, how amenable they'd be to taking patches versus a fork, etc. Done properly, the work

[OSGeo-Discuss] Geodata as Public Record in U.S.

2009-08-24 Thread Richard Greenwood
A friend of my prepared this analysis of geodata distribution and fees at the county government level in the US: http://home.centurytel.net/wilsonlandsurvey/docs/GIS Data as Public Record.pdfhttp://home.centurytel.net/wilsonlandsurvey/docs/GIS%20Data%20as%20Public%20Record.pdf%20 I think it may be

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geodata as Public Record in U.S.

2009-08-24 Thread Brian Russo
404 On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Richard Greenwood richard.greenw...@gmail.com wrote: A friend of my prepared this analysis of geodata distribution and fees at the county government level in the US: http://home.centurytel.net/wilsonlandsurvey/docs/GIS Data as Public

[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Geodata as Public Record in U.S.

2009-08-24 Thread Richard Greenwood
Maybe this URL will work. http://home.centurytel.net/wilsonlandsurvey/docs/GIS Data as Public Record.pdfhttp://home.centurytel.net/wilsonlandsurvey/docs/GIS%20Data%20as%20Public%20Record.pdf The previous one had an extraneous space at the end. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Richard Greenwood

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Geodata as Public Record in U.S.

2009-08-24 Thread P Kishor
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Richard Greenwoodrichard.greenw...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe this URL will work. http://home.centurytel.net/wilsonlandsurvey/docs/GIS Data as Public Record.pdf The previous one had an extraneous space at the end. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Richard

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Geodata as Public Record in U.S.

2009-08-24 Thread Brian Russo
Good to see that the case law seems to support disclosure. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Richard Greenwood richard.greenw...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe this URL will work. http://home.centurytel.net/wilsonlandsurvey/docs/GIS Data as Public