[OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the GeoServices REST API became an OGC standard?

2013-05-04 Thread Cameron Shorter
OSGeo Community, Currently, voting OGC members are to decide whether to accept the GeoServices REST API as an OGC standard. This is already a contentious issue, with 13 votes for, and 10 votes against, 72 outstanding votes, with voting halted temporally, being reopened again in a few days,

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the GeoServices REST API became an OGC standard?

2013-05-04 Thread Frans Thamura
Hi cameron I think ogc is stand as standard body which will home as geoservices Yes, there are several overlap I prefer esri to certified his product withnogc rather make new standarsd in ogc That is dangerous to community On May 4, 2013 5:46 PM, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.com

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the GeoServices REST API became an OGC standard?

2013-05-04 Thread Barry Rowlingson
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wanting to hear whether people in the OSGeo community have strong opinions regarding this proposed standard, and whether we as a collective OSGeo community should make statements to the OGC, and voting OGC

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the GeoServices REST API became an OGC standard?

2013-05-04 Thread Adrian Custer
Dear Cameron, all, There is indeed a massive conflict at the OGC related to this proposed standard and it may be useful to inform this list about that conflict and the process. However, I am unsure how expanding the *discussion* here helps. The proposed standard aims to document a

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the GeoServices REST API became an OGC standard?

2013-05-04 Thread Stefano Costa
Il 04/05/2013 18:43, Adrian Custer ha scritto: Which brings us to OSGeo and what useful contribution it could make to the debate. Simply rehashing the issues above is not going to be useful to anyone. If new ideas arise, or a large, common position emerges on the issue, I'd be glad to inject

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the GeoServices REST API became an OGC standard?

2013-05-04 Thread Adrian Custer
Hey Barry, There is no useful concept of a 'reference implementation' at the OGC. The things the OGC calls 'reference implementation' are actually example testing implementations. The word was incorrectly adopted by the testing group (pushed by those with commercial concerns). The testing

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the GeoServices REST API became an OGC standard?

2013-05-04 Thread Michael Ashbridge
Is there an open-source reference implementation of code to work with every aspect of the KML file standard? The situation seems analagous - a proprietary standard pushed to OGC and opened up. https://code.google.com/p/libkml/ ___ Discuss mailing

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the GeoServices REST API became an OGC standard?

2013-05-04 Thread Even Rouault
Note that Cameron was either unclear or incorrect in his presentation of where the standard now stands. * The document was released for public comment. (see above) * A response to all the comments was issued. (however incomplete) Adrian, Do you have by chance a link to the response to

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the GeoServices REST API became an OGC standard?

2013-05-04 Thread TC Haddad
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Adrian Custer acus...@gmail.com wrote: The dominance of ESRI is controversial both because the working mode lacked any collaborative spirit and, perhaps most critically, because this is seen as a way through which ESRI can bring its own service onto an equal

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the GeoServices REST API became an OGC standard?

2013-05-04 Thread Cameron Shorter
Adrian, Thankyou, I was hoping that someone such as your self with insights into the standard would explain the details. You email has been a great help. I'm also hoping that someone will provide a more detailed comparison of the similarities / differences, to help the rest of the community

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the GeoServices REST API became an OGC standard?

2013-05-04 Thread Adrian Custer
On 5/4/13 6:06 PM, Jody Garnett wrote: Thanks for the background Adrian, do we know of any other parties with implementation plans? -- Jody Garnett The known implementations are listed in the document responding to the 'no' vote. I won't list them here 'till I hear back on the status of

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the GeoServices REST API became an OGC standard?

2013-05-04 Thread Adrian Custer
On 5/4/13 6:21 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: Adrian, Thankyou, I was hoping that someone such as your self with insights into the standard would explain the details. You email has been a great help. Cheers. I'm also hoping that someone will provide a more detailed comparison of the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the GeoServices REST API became an OGC standard?

2013-05-04 Thread Miles Fidelman
TC Haddad wrote: - To elaborate on the unequal footing phrase above: One additional aspect of the government side of this equation is that for several years there has been a trend (similar to Microsoft products) in getting the ESRI architecture adopted as a GIS software standard within